Mexico’s Narco Bailout

Dec 17th, 2008 | By Michel Marizco | Category: General News, Politics
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THE BORDER REPORT

From time to time, I like to give other people space to share their perspective on this border. Today, it’s a former drug trafficker for the Juárez Cartel, back from the days of Amado Carrillo Fuentes.

“Rabbit,” as he was known then and will be known on BorderReporter.com, worked for the Juárez Cartel from 1984 onward. He was charged, and I have copies of the U.S. District Court indictment and sentencing agreement that establish his credibility, with possession with intent to distribute more than one thousand kilograms of marijuana, money laundering and the Kingpin Rule, known as running a criminal enterprise.

Mexico’s $400 Million Tip

I recently saw on CNN that the United States Government gave the first $197 million of $400 million to Mexico to battle Mexico’s never-ending war with its very powerful narco cartels. I had to laugh. If you saw what I’ve seen, you would too.

In the mid-1980’s and the early 1990’s I worked for the Juárez Cartel. Everyone that I was involved with  worked for Amado Carillo-Fuentes, the Lord of the Skies. Amado had countless Federal Security Directorate and PGR agents working for him. I lived in a house in Hermosillo that AFI agents guarded 24 hours a day, that was loaded with several thousand kilos of cocaine. The most expensive home was called club Fed. These agents were paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to protect all of us. As long as the money flowed, we had the protection of the Mexican police.

Over the years, we paid off Mexican police, Mexican federales and military personnel. We also paid Border Patrol agents on this side of the border. I had involuntarily donated several several expensive vehicles to Mexican officials. If I drove down to Mexico in a nice vehicle, I was told how much they liked my ride. So I handed the keys over and that was the last time I saw my car. I got smart after a while and started driving down there in an old Pontiac Ventura. They wanted no part of that car.

Mexico could replace all the governors and all the upper level law enforcement heads along the border and still be plagued with corruption. The only success they would bring is bringing in a new band of thieves.

But let’s look at Sonora for a second.

At least 50 percent of all the U.S.’s narcotics are smuggled through Sonora. The U.S. governemnt confiscated 1.8 million pounds of pot on the Mexican border this year. They say that that reflects 15 percent of the gross product. So ask yourself how much space it takes to grow 10 million pounds of weed every year. Then ask yourself what $400 million pays for. We are not even talking about meth production or the thousands of acres of popies being grown there for the production of black tar heroin. Then you have the wide spread importation of cocaine from South America, 600 tons in 2007 alone.

The Amercan Government pays Mexico your tax dollars to combat a war that Mexican officials aren’t even trying to win. They don’t want to win. Maybe they can’t afford to win  The Mexican Army protects and is responsible for vast amounts of marijuana being grown in mexico for distribution in the U.S.   Back whe nI was in the business, the Mexican army acted as scouts for the traffickers in the Northern Sonoran area.

Along the border in places like Aqua Prieta and Naco, you have differnt narco traffickers that control that area. The Paredes-Machados family in Agua Prieta is one of these wealthy importers that are responsible for these areas. They have have used tunnels and the desert areas east of Douglas, Ariz., to import tons of marijuana and cocaine.

The Paredes have people out there monitoring the border 24 hours a day. They rarely lose any product.

My conclusion is that the United States just gave Mexico a $400 million donation. Whatever good that money can do, it will without a doubt be shadowed by the corruption that Mexico is known for. The problems down there are only beginning.

I haven’t been in the business for two years, but I can promise you, nothing has changed.

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  1. Extremely interesting, I was told by someone who worked the inside also that the drug busts are ‘staged’ that the quality of dope being busted is very ‘watered down’ deliberately to satisfy those who wish to think something is being done. Is there any truth in this?

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  2. This is just Bush/Cheney “feel good money”. Bush knows the truth about Mexico, how it’s corrupt. That four hundred million is just for “show”. Actually, it’s extortion money, the Mexies got something on the Bushies, that’s why he won’t lift a finger to help Ramos and Compean and he want’s “a path to legalization” for the 32 million illegal alien Mexican Nationals.

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  3. Marco Antonio Paredes Machado is not in control as you make it seem. He is in hiding since they raided his house and ranch recently. He is on his way out. What tunnels are you talking about? The 90 tunnel in AP/Doug????

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  4. Ramos and Compean?…. You Freaking kidding me? Could be a little feel good money for the scandal that Johnny Sutton allowed with the ICE informant Guillermo Pereyo to kill Mexican Nationals and the US knowing that these acts were going to happen, and did nothing to stop it!

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  5. Marco Paredes is on his way out. However, the Paredes family has been responsible for moving very large quantities of contraband across the border for more than 20 years. They have many financial interests in northern Mexico. The tunnel described in the article was in Naco. It was discovered by law enforcement in the mid to late 90’s. But don’t be surprised if the Paredes name showes it’s face again in the years to come. Rumor has it that Dos Mil is the man calling the shots.

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  6. AFI wasn’t founded until November 1, 2001…

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  7. It has come to my attention that the gentleman writing the story meant to say DSF agent’s, Michel, you are the shit dude.
    I thought this video was pretty cool showing a drug tunnel, and the movement of drugs.
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a27_1204763239

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  8. DFS kimo

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  9. Drift: Johnny Sutton was a Bushie gofer when Bushie was Gov of Texas.
    Fill us in; what did ICE informant Guillermo Pereyo do?

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  10. Yes, please fill us in on the mosted reported story regarding the US/Mexican drug war, what is this mysterious ICE informant story that I am sure no one has ever heard of before (sarcastic)…Nowets, seems like you need to expand your horizon when reading the news a little bit more, try Narco News.

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  11. Check out this link…Bill Conroy has done an excellent job covering this story. Kimo sometimes not everybody knows what’s going on with this story, they have kept it pretty hush hush….. but since I live in El Paso it’s news over here. the second link is a video nowets.

    http://narconews.com/

    http://www.narconews.com/Issue54/article3134.html

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  12. Why is everybody jumping on Kimosabe? He is saying that “Nowets” is an obvious ignorant fool.

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  13. Now *that* is a tunnel. Good lord. If that’s real, it is amazing.

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  14. I aint jumping on Kimo

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  15. drift: I just read for several hours the story about “Lalo, Santillan, Sutton” in narconews.com My eyes have been opened, thanks for that referrence. I’m appalled and saddened that ICE would let that happen. I wonder if Janet Napolitano knows what she’s getting herself into? Maybe she’s being appointed to help keep the lid on it.
    As for Vincent Hanna’s comment about me: Just because one doesn’t know certain facts doesn’t make them ignorant or a fool, just uninformed.

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  16. Your Welcome!

    Isnt Vincent Hanna, Al Pacino’s character from Heat?…..You can call me Neil, then! LMAO!

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  17. well all of you are wrong about marco antonio paredes machado. he is totally in charge and in charge of a large and vast part of the sonora arizona front to include not only ap, naco, cananea, as far west as nogales and as far east as chihuahua. this im saying not because of what hear say or others say but because i personally know . so to all who make statements, know first your facts. He and His family Paredes Machado are definitely and absolutely in control in a very very powerful and fearful way. thank you.

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  18. oh and by the way the tunnel talked about was in naco and it was in 1999 when marco antonio paredes machados older brother leo who was shot in 04 in los tulipanes restaurant along with family members, was indicted in connection with that tunnel for moving over 20 tons of cocaine through it. just a little history for those of you who might be interested.

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  19. Ferocious aren’t I?…When I think of an ass, a woman’s ass, something comes over me!!!

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  20. Okay ladies and gentlemen. Johnny, you sound like you have your mind together. Lets say this first. I persoanlly know Leo and Marco. Yes the tunnel was in Naco. The Paredes familly is a force to recognise. They have been around for way to long. Anyone who down plays these people are misinformed and obviously ignorant of the true facts. Marco maybe in hiding, but that doesn’t mean he’s done. When I wrote the above article, I tried to just give readers a peak at what I know to be going on down there. The Mexican Government lets you see what they want you to see. Marco is gone, but it will be a long time before he’s forgotten. I am out of the business. However, I still know a lot of people. My familly and the Paredes had a long and rocky relationship. However, anyone who counts the Paredes out of the game is a damn idiot. (or a cop!)

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  21. well rabbit i too know marcos and knew leo very very good and like i said marcos and the paredes family still control all of this region of ap naco cananea and vasts land to the west and east of ap. But i am not understanding what u mean by marcos is gone You dont have to reside in the areas where u control. You cant rule and control from any where. I too know many people and i know the Marcos and the Paredes family very good. But i totally agree with u on some things u stated.

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  22. Johnny, good luck to you. I fully understand what you are saying. The article waqsn’t meant to make enemies. I give respect where respect is due. I am the first to recognise All of them. Like I said in the article, If you have seen what I’ve seen, you know that south of the border anything is possible. And the article was meant for people to educate themselves. Nothing is gonna change on that side. There is only gonna be a new band of thieves.

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  23. Hanna “pinches gringos pendejos no saben ni propio idioma y ahi andan chihuahuando la borega con sus idioteces”(the damn stupid white people (American or European)don’t know their own language and go fornicating with goats (female) with their idiocies”.
    Now now, Hanna, control your temper, you sound like an angry racist latino (sin papeles).

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  24. rabbit no enemies here. i know what u mean and good luck to u also.

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  25. Nowets, brother, I am sorry man, you are going to get the “ignorant” label thrown back at you once again, and it’s going to stick…I didn’t write that. Boy, you are really stupid huh? When you see someone’s name, underneath their name are a bunch of letters, combine those letters, and you get what we call “words”, combine those “words” together, and you get “sentences” combine those “sentences” together and you get “comments”….I just called you a fool, that was it (psst, I’m a Gringo)!!

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  26. You get killed walking your doggie!

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  27. actually none of that 400 million is in the form of cash, only equipment and training.

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  28. http://narconews.com = EXTREME LEFT open borders / environment / race bating, whack jobs venting their propaganda. Carl Marx, Stalin, Hitler or Cesar Chavez would be proud.

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  29. Rabbit-

    Question for you, okay, the Mexican governement along with, or shall I say with support from the US governement have launched this “crackdown” the idea is for the military and police to not so much dismantle the cartels, but to break them into smaller much more manageable organizations. This is not my thought or opinion, this is the idea, and the reason behind the crackdown. When the US busted into Colombia whenever they did, they took the cartels down, and to adapt to the law enforcement issue, the Colombians in turn, organized themselves into smaller, much more organized, and highly manageable organizations. Now it seems to me that the bigger your organization, much like a US corporation, the bigger you are obviously the more money you make, but it is a much more difficult process to manage, not including you have more oppurtunity, or you are setting yourself up for the oppurtunity to be infiltrated by law enforcement on some level, then let’s say as a smaller organization. Why are we trying to break the cartels up into smaller organizations, especially if it has already been proven that the Colombians adapted this model in order to defend themselves from law enforcement?

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  30. Will,

    I didn’t plan on answering any more of these, but I will say a few things in response to you comment. First of all, the Mexican Cartels do not have a whole lot in common with the Columbian Cartels. Columbia doesn’t back up to the Mexican border. So it is hard to campare the two. Second, as my article states, a lot of the corruption in Mexico is caused by corrupt governtment officials, which is a way of life in Mexico. The Mexican Cartels are very powerful. They are not gonna get broken apart into smaller organizations. Most of the problems you see on the border today are not because of a crackdown, they come from fighting between the Cartels for control. The individuals that run the border itself are another thing all together, dependind on where you are at. The policies that were used in Columbia will fail in Mexico. The Cartels in mexico don’t have a problem getting what they want down there. Here is the difference, the drug war in America is a miserable failure. The war can’t be won the way it is being run. The war on drugs in Mexico isn’t trying to be won. The Mexican Government can’t afford to stop something that they are in up to their necks!

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  31. Rabbit / Johnny,

    You seem pretty knowledgeable, but you only seem to know about the Paredes Family and not the other key members of the cartel. Do you know who Blas M. was? or Sergio A.? Back in the mid 90’s this 2 guys played an important role……

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  32. I know Blas Moreno. And I know Sergio. Blas was around all through the 80’s with Leo. I had a relationship with Leo and blas. However, that has nothing to do with the story I wrote. I am not against the Paredes’. I admire them. I was only talking about the Mexican Government and the U.S. It’s a big game. If Marco thinks hard enough, he knows who wrote this article. I hope he realises that I mean no disrespect. I have regrets about what happened between Leo, Marco and my father. I worked hard for them and wished well for everyone. Leo died a shitty death free, my father died a sitty death in prison. It is hard to enjoy the good parts of life with so much shit going on. The U.S. Government sucks!! They lie like hell and the people they use to do their bidding are whores that deserve the worst. I hope you understand what I mean.

    God Bless!!

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  33. Rabbit….this question has nothing to do with your story and I do not expect you to know, but what really happened to Sergio? I heard he had a plane crash….but whats behind it? His story is interesting.

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  34. Robert, some things are better left untalked about. Even though this crew has made a lot of money, they also are careless as hell. They cause themselves a lot of trouble, then cause a lot of people problems because of it. To be honest, they use people. But the paredes have a lot of people payed off. So they stay safe and working in mexico. While those of us in the states get screwed. This is why I don’t work any more.

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  35. puras babosadas habla la conehita no conose nadien puro pedo

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  36. What an idiot!

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  37. Well…..at least Rabbit seems to know more than I do…..but what about you Carlos…Do you have an idea of who we are talking about? I bet not….

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  38. You around?

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  39. I’ll hang around for a few, but off to bed for me.

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  40. I’ll check in every half hour on the 30 minute mark.

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  41. be on line at 7 am. see you here then.

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  42. Hey there Rabbit… who are you looking to be online?

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  43. For me to know, for you not to.

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  44. robert hey i know things about alot of people to include blas and sergio

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  45. I remember Blas well. Do you know Alex Q? I think Leo got pissed at him years ago. I saw a “Cops” episode on tv while I was in prison. Pretty funny. Alex got pulled over in northern Az by DPS and they took 250K out of a rental car he was driving. I started laughing. The bad thing is that, just like in sergio’s case, these guys get greedy and think they can betray to get on top. I know that ba lot of people thought that the Paredes wouldn’t last this long, but I knew they would be around. IThe last time I talked to Leo was in FCI Tucson in yucca unit in 1989, Right before Steven Rolls got him out on bond. Then he split. I remeber that Marcos got busted with a plane with samething small in it at some airstrip. (like 500) That was in the mid to late 80’s. Marcos was already a fugitive living in Mexico when all of us got indicted by the feds at the end of 1989. It was messy. I was so young back then. It seems like a lifetime ago. But it showes how long the Paredes have been around. By the way, have you ever heard of Roberto Gracia? He was out of Nogales. I worked with him in the early 90’s. We got ratted on by Iran Tony Cota from Nogales, Az. Heard something happened to Roberto after I was in custody. I got charged by the state for running a criminal syndicate, and 8 counts of transportation. Messed up situation. Take care.

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  46. yeah rabbit i know many people and many of high significance and know them very well real close yeah leo split right after he got out on bond and marcos did get busted piloting a plane he is a pilot pilot license and everything still cant figure out who u are did u know a guy named armando soto goes by mandy for short no i didnt know a roberto gracia out of nogy

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  47. The part I dont quite understand is if Leo, Marcos, Sergio and Blas (and some others) used to have a very good relation, both in bussiness and personal, and suddenly they separated or broke relations or I dont know…. what happened??

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  48. Johnny, I was 21 years old in 1989. I was a stupid kid, but I really wanted to do well for everyone. My father got charged as the kingpin, leo, marcos, marcelino rascon were all charges too. But my dad got 30 years. The rest got nothing. I would love to talk to you. Robert, sergio betrayed leo really bad. That’s what happened to him. Long story, dos mil was involved. Really back stabbing shit. Understand that Blas was Leo’s boy. He oversaw business for Leo in Az. Blas and my father were in touch on a regular basis. I dealt with him personally a few times. Those were good days, what came after destryed my family.. it was my own fault. Was too young to realise my own arrogance and ignorance. Hope that answered your questions.

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  49. I don’t think I know Mandy, not sure. I mean, I remember a lot of the dogbone crowd. Eventually we’ll figure it out.

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  50. Easy to find my name in 480.

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  51. Blas is alive and well in Sinaloa.

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  52. rabbit 480 ?

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  53. area code

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  54. rabbit 480 ? WHATS 480

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  55. OH I SEE STILL ALOT OF NAMES IN 480

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  56. only one rabbit in the in the 85282.

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  57. Makes sense….. if you or Johnny have time why dont you share the full story, it would be interesting….. take care..

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  58. Everything I have said is the truth. The whole truth is way more than I am prepared to do at this point. I am sure Marco Paredes enjoys his privacy, somewhat. I mean, everything I’ve told all of you is public knowledge. I am not going to dry snitch anyone. Some things are what they are. There is a huge cast of characters operating on the other side of that border. The Paredes are just one of them.

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  59. Yes indeed, that is public info. No intention to snitch anyone here. Anyway, its being said that the dos mil was or is still trying to push the Paredes out of northeast Sonora area, but some other say that they are actually working together… what do you think?

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  60. They are not working together. I don’t think the paredes will get run out of northern sonora, either. Dos mil is nothing nice, but he doesn’t run AP. We will just have to see if peace will ever be established between the big cartels.

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  61. robert dos mil is never ending in tryin to get ap but wont happen and marcos will never work with him cmon dos mil had something to do with his bro leo and another bro and sis getting killed marcos will never work with dos mil never and yeah rabbit no snitching here never this is all just public info there is so much i know but wont tell so ur right on that

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  62. exactly rabbit all what has been said is public info or we wouldnt be stating what we have u know i too know marcos and the paredes machado family very good very close close so there are many things that i will never say or state no ones business rabbit but still thats ur nickname still gonna be hard to find in 85282 by ur nickname

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  63. remember robert theres alot of rumors alot of people think they know so much about all of this when many of them dont alot of info out there thats wrong info like what u stated about 2000 and those that really know know what is true and what is really

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  64. happening with ever;ything in this world

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  65. Try e mailing me johnny.

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  66. I also think dos mil and Marcos will never partner,as it is being said that dos mil guys were the ones that killed Leo and family at a restaurant in AP. But how come Marcos hasn’t done something about it…cmon guys…. wouldn’t you do something to dos mil already if he killed your brother? Seem like Marcos is not in the play anymore…

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  67. What makes you think he hasn’t?

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  68. just like i started laughin when someone tried to say they caught Marcos Paredes i saw him the day before so see there u go with what people say and dont know to clarify in my previous posting world i mean drug world

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  69. Ask los numeros.

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  70. yahoo my friend.

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  71. Don’t kid yourself, Robert, marcos is still real busy.

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  72. By the way Rabbit, aren’t you exagerating a little on sergio’s backstabbing on Leo? What could have been that bad? maybe it was indeed a plane accident. What do you think johhny?
    Anyhow…. Blas and look like his sons are trying to enter AP again…. heard something about this?

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  73. I suppose you are right guys… Marcos might be busy but behing the scenes i guess…. he does not show himself that much anymore….

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  74. all I know is sergio betrayed leo, for sure. He’s dead. What more is there to say.

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  75. With all the madness going on in Mexico, would you show your faace. He’s wanted fugitive in the US. Come on bro. Easy to figure out.

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  76. rabbit85282

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  77. Good point, I wouln’t show off as well.

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  78. Robert, realise, the Paredes are still very wealthy. They are there. But there is a lot of rumors out there. You never know what s is not true. However, if there are a lot of dead people, someone is making them dead. Marcos is a business man. He will protect his business just like any good business man.

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  79. Goodnight, Guys. Getting late where I live.

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  80. exactly rabbit marcos is still very much in play i know personally hes the pesado jefe very much so and exactly ask los numeros what marcos has done about what dos mil people did robert ask them what marcos has done trust me i know hes got back for what happened marcos is a very private low key man thats the way to go the smart ones working behind the scenes smart very smart business man trust me hes very much in control and pesado pesado as ever and his organization and about sergio i persoanlly know what happened the whole story trust me sergio was gunned down right in front of his own restaurant la reforma he was promoting a boxer and the boxer and many people were there with the boxer waiting for sergio but as he was gonna step out of his truck he was gunned down and also a point on being quiet low key look at el mayo hes the number 1 in mexico and u never hear really much about him see my point

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  81. Rabbit, just curious. Was the $25 billion dollars that Amado Carrillo Fuentes allegedly had a realistic figure? Did the government get it after he died?

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  82. robert yes sergio for sure backstabbed leo u just dont know the story i do and thats where it is and hey los paredes are rich rich filthy rich only if u knew like i know what sergio did was really really messed up and it hits close to my heart what happened to leo and his sis and 2 brothers1 shot but alive and 1 dead

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  83. ADOC inmate data search

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  84. Johnny, I believe you are referring to sergio the owner of The Reforma restaurant and if I am not mistaken he used to own a local baseball team, right? the other sergio I meant was a pilot and supposedly he was gunned down during a flight by mexican military aircraft like 10 years ago.. many people say it was an accident and others say he was gunned down but the reason is unknown….at least to many…

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  85. rabbit & johnny correct me if i’m wrong but i was under the impression that don salazar ordered the shooting of the paredes family after the paredes killed his son abelardo…..you guys are more familiar with sonora so if im wrong i apologize….

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  86. l nephew u are wrong like i have said before i personally know what happened with the paredes machado family i know all of them very very well dos mil and los numeros were the ones involved with the killings i personally know this so again whoever u heard that from is wrong yes robert u are talking about a differ sergio yeah i am talkin about sergio r. thats right he was the owner of the vaqueros baseball team your talking about another sergio

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  87. sergio ramirez? well it doesn’t make sense back in 2004 the paredes were working with mochomo…y would los numeros attack an ally of their jefe?

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  88. YES LOS NUMEROS AND DOS MIL WERE BEHIND THE KILLINGS OF THE PAREDES FAMILY AND LOS PAREDES AND LOS NUMEROS WERE AND ARE NOT ALLIES WELL WHAT IF ANY IS LEFT OF LOS NUMEROS THATS HOW IT IS AND YES LOS NUMEROS WORKED FOR THE BELTRAN LEYVA BROS BUT THAT HOW IT IS I KNOW THIS FOR FACT

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  89. Johnny is a smart man. Everything he has ever said is truth. Enrique para got thrown out of an airplane wrapped in an american flag. He and dos mil were responsible for the paredes hit. It was not don salazar. I worked with the salazars, good people in my day. Las numeros tried to make a move on paredes’ teritory, they failed. And for the other question, Amado Carrillo was super wealthy. He was a billionare.

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  90. The pilot sergio that you are talking about I think was killed in an accident. I had seen this happen a bunch of times over the years. I know of some people that were killed kicking a load out from the air flying low and clipped a saguro cactus and crashed. Killed the kicker and pilot.

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  91. yeah rabbit exactly raul enriquez parra who was the numeros leader and dos mil were responsible for the hits and yeah enriquez got his when he was tortured first and then thrown out of a plane he was found on a ranch in the navojoa area where he was based out of he bro daniel also was killed too. exactly los numeros did try to make a move in ap greed but didnt and couldnt so rabbit still cant figure out who u are

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  92. Hello Johnny and Rabbit, you guys seem to know who was involved with the drug trade in ap and cananea. I have a real close relative who was from ap and lived in cananea for a long time. He had a lot of money and ranches and stuff. I am talking millions of dollars. He even had pictures of him and ronald reagan at his ranch. I am positive he wasn’t involved with this kind of stuff but have heard people say that he was, but my family always said he wasn’t and I don’t believe he was. His last name was Varela, he died about 15 years ago of a heart attack. You guys ever know anyone with that name involved with that kind of stuff in ap or cananea? You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to.

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  93. Have heard of someone with that name, he had airplanes and was connected to the governor of sonora back in the day. I he has dirt on his hands.

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  94. E mail me johnny, I’ll tell you who I am.

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  95. Damn, well, at least I know now. I know he had invested money in an airstrip on lake novillo with a hotel and then it got shutdown by the federales but he never got in trouble or anything, this was like 40 years ago though but that was the only bad thing I had heard him connected to. He has a street in cananea named after him. Thanks for the info Rabbit.

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  96. Don’t be ashamed of him, I have never heard of anything dishonoring his name. (If in fact this is the same person)

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  97. Johnny, I am the son of one of Leo’s ex partners.

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  98. my bad johnny…sometimes i get all mixed up with all the traiciones….thanks for clarifying that…now i understand why el Tio gave the green light to get rid of the numeros…. el 2000 se salvo porke Mi niño/ el 5 was hot on his ass but ended up getting arrested in sonora… el Tio le habia dado la tarea de matar al 2000…ya mero sale el luison…..its going to be interesting for what team he decides to bat for…

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  99. Wow, I hit number 100

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  100. what happened vince, no 100?

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  101. rabbit i dont have ur email address

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  102. rabbit85282@yahoo

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  103. @Rabbit nah, I’m not ashamed, no shame in my game. That’s cool though. He had the ranch to the left when you first enter cananea I think there is a hotel on the other side of the carretera. He had a bunch of others but that is where he lived for years, at least all of my youth. Well, I guess he gave a better life to his children and family from it.

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  104. hell ya, man.

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  105. juanito no seas baboso-estan casondo al mp

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  106. Be glad he was able to give his family a better life. Good fopr him.

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  107. It’s been quiet today….

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  108. Whats this i hear of barbies bodyguards being captured, do we have a repeat of aturo where they capture his bodyguards then him. Also i heard all that shootout stuff happening in tum (sp) is between the zetas and the gulf cartel i hear they are at war with each other.

    Rabbit-Whos side do u think el azul takes in the sinaloa vs. juarez bottle and is he even still active?

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  109. Also who does paredes work for i heard he is affiliated with juarez is this correct?

    The war between juarez cartel and sinaloa cartel is that over carillo trying to charge guzman a tax and who controls the juarez plaza now?

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  110. the guerra in juarez is cuz chapo is a greedy s.o.b….he doesn’t want a piece of the pie he wants the the whole bleepin pie factory….

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  111. When Amado Carrillo was around, everyone around worked for him, almost. Paredes dosn’t work for anyone. Paredes works with who’s on top. Take it as you want. I will also say, the fighting in Mexico is terrible. But until control is established, it’s gonna be ugly. I always liked Juarez was once a great cartel, it’s sad.

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  112. Every person in this world should pray for peace. Too many deaths. Brother against brother. The Mexican people are proud. But killing each other isn’t anything to be proud of. I don’t take sides. Try caring about your neihbor. Spread the love. Try it, it’s not so bad.

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  113. It was only a matter of time before the Gulf boys and the Zetas had problems.

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  114. in juarez the thing there is exactly vincente carrillo controls the plazas there its juarezs territory and chapo wants to take over there thats what all the fighting is about over there and to whoever was talking about los paredes well think about it like this the paredes machado family controls northeastern corridor regions so just think which cartel controls this region and who is the boss of this cartel that controls this area very simple

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  115. Well put, Johnny.

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  116. if u figure that out that will tell u who the paredes are ligado or vinculado with and for back when leo paredes was alive he was a high rankin member, leader , operator for the juarez cartel but God rest his soul was killed in 04 in ap and all this is public info i wouldnt say anything that should not be said so there u go to whoever was asking

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  117. Anyone hear about the guy in scuba gear trying to bring pot across in the Douglas sewer system? Now that’s entertainment! I was wondering what the PD and BP were doing along F Ave. They had a unit posted at each manhole from International Ave. up to 8th Street … 9 blocks or so. Here’s the story:

    http://www.douglasdispatch.com/articles/2010/02/26/news/breaking_news/doc4b886f3b23287355190731.txt

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  118. That’s funny shit. Gotta love it.

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  119. Rabbit, can you say what Vicente Carrillo Fuentes is like? What is the man like as a person, it seems like he has been a competant leader.

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  120. I can’t tell you, I never met the man. But I will say that he has done one hell of a job defending his turf, and he’s still free. Not the powerhouse that his brother was, but still is in control. What else can I say. He held it down way better than the Arellanos did.

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  121. What is el azuls role in the day to day operations i hear he is related to the beltrans in some way and has sided with sinaloa but there is never a mention of him in any articles?

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  122. Most of these people have no choice but to be low key. I mean, what would you do? Do you want everyone knowing your business? And just so you know, a lot of these people are related somehow. That’s why these narco wars are insane. I hope some one gives peace a chance.

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  123. Charles Bowden has a new article published today, “The War Next Door.”

    http://www.hcn.org/issues/42.4/the-war-next-door/article_view?b_start:int=0&-C=

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  124. That was one of the best articles I have ever read. Charles Bowden has a way with his words. No matter what side of the law you are on, you have to realise the war on drugs is a miserable failure. The prison system in this country would not exhist if it were not for drug offenders. The court system wouldn’t be 20% of what it is now. A very sad reality. I know that a lot of people don’t like the words that come out of my mouth, but this article is exactly what I speak out against. In todays world, big change is needed. The status Quo isn’t good enough. The lives lost on both sides is insane. In the state of our econimic status, can’t every person look beyond government propaganda and agree that what is, really isn’t. This article should make some people think. When coming out of my mouth, a filthy criminal, no one wants to listen. It’s time for change people.

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  125. http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/03/clashes-beween-zetas-and-gulf-cartel.html

    wow, barbie works for sinaloa now and gulf cartel joined sinaloa and la familia to wipe out los zetas…………this war is nuts these people switch sides like it is going out of style lol

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  126. It is inevitable. Order has to eventually be established. Prices are once again starting to fall on the streets. Something is starting to be established.

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  127. to: www
    Great article!
    Thanks for posting.

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  128. Does anyone know where I can find the article from Harper’s that Move gave us by Bowden and the new scisario book?

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  129. ya le van ha dar piso al 2000 mil
    lo tienen bien copado en la sierra
    sin avion esta ves

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  130. http://www.arietecaborca.com/policiaca/76-realiza-pgje-operativo-en-mazocahui-en-busqueda-de-presuntos-sicarios.html

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  131. Ya se chihuahuaron a el CHaguin de MAZA. Can anyone confirm?

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  132. Hmm, maybe EVV aka La Barbie is on his own as well…

    http://mexablog.com/2010/03/03/carta-del-cartel-del-golfo/

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  133. el chaguin sigue vivo y coleando…son puros mitotes….apoco crees ke su propia gente se confundio y se tramaron a balazos? no manches… y el chaguin no anda en un nissan sentra….hahaha…

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  134. A Julion Beltran se lo chihuahuaron cuando iva en un jetta y era mas pesado que el chaguin. No siempre se pasean en caravanas blindadas. Ay que despistar un poco. Yo no digo yo solo pregunto todo es posible. Pinche Chaguin alrato va estar como el osama todos dicen que el esta muerto pero el aciendo videos para desmentir a la gente.

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  135. el julion era pesado pero no andava precavido se lo chihuahuaron porke el mayo les dio la luz verde a una familia de durango… el julion se confio ke andava en territorio protegido…igual el mochomo….pero el chaguin sabe ke ay guerra ay ke andar al tiro…. o sino le Va pasar como al Tio…

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  136. Tines razon sobrino, no lo han matado al chaguin. Dicen que fue visto por en el DF. aqui esta el link.

    http://www.noroeste.com.mx/publicaciones.php?id=562273&id_seccion=

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  137. Sobrino, Ya esta confirmados si se lo chihuahuaron. A el y a su pistolero numero uno el Chago.

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  138. no mames, neta? supe ke al chago si pero el chaguin nada….

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  139. this comment goes to robert who ever u are how do u know what marcos paredes does anyway hes big as ever just wondering how u know what he does or doesnt do cuz i can say honestly i do know…..

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  140. Hey Johnny, If you say you know MP that’s ok, I believe You man. I only just wonder if he is still around because you can see a lot of different people working for different cartels on the same area (Ap, Naco, Cananea, etc..) and some years back everything was controlled and most important peaceful. What is happening? I do not know how old are you but back then used to be organised.

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  141. to robert i will only say this and no more i wont go into depth about all i know but i will say MPM is still around in a very big way still the big pesado pesado boss of his powerful organization Los Paredes and MPM still controls the northeastern corridor ap naco etc. nothing has changed. thats all i will say no more MPM still in control in big way as always

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  142. I find it interesting, Robert, that you think that things are not organised in AP. AP is really quiet compared to other places. Matter of fact, there is very little of the insanity that happens in Nogy or Juarez, in AP. Why do you think that is? Some one has a lid on that place. There is a lot of people that use that area, but the people that control it are really low key these days. Do you blame them? The same power structure has been there for many years. Not hard to figure that out.

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  143. well said rabbit thats exactly what i was going to say just didnt want to get into details but yes look at ap and how calm and quiet it is exactly compared to juarez and nogy where its crazy so that should tell u something robert about how controlled ap is and has been for years exactly the same power structure has been there for many years and still is exactly it isnt hard to figure out, low key=smart /longevity, look at EL Mayo for example low key also something to think about

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  144. Guys, now that you put it in that way I can only agree.

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  145. I just received news that one trafficker was gun down today in Agua Prietaa couple of hours ago….supposedly he was one of El Dos Mil guys in AP……….. this is getting nasty….

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    Rabbit Reply:

    Well, the powers that be got a hard on for 2k.

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  146. rabbit..jonywalls..wat do u guyz know about cancholaas?tombstone?

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    Rabbit Reply:

    What do you want to know? very familiar.

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  147. if u knew them wat conection did u have with them..? ive heard cancholas wants to come back to this place

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    The Rabbit Reply:

    Dude, shit is changing there every day. Even if he wants to come back, that don’t mean shit. Just wait and see. He may be on his way.

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  148. http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/736827.html

    Updated news, Marcos Paredes was caught yesterday.

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  149. wow now no one haas anything to say? & the only thing that makes me think when I read this is that it seems like a pissing contest!! & if Johnny is who I think you are then wow cuz the Paredes love their privacy & I know for a fact that they would be reall unhappy to read this if they get out! Which they will.. & yes everyone has the right to free speech but if you guys are so close then why even write all this? I don’t know but they gave lots of jobs & did do alot of good for AP.. So all I can say some of ur stories are right & some are way off! & public knowledge or not Rodolfo got cought in St. David! & that’s the truth!!!

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  150. wow now no one has anything to say? & the only thing that makes me think when I read this is that it seems like a pissing contest!! & if Johnny is who I think you are then wow cuz the Paredes love their privacy & I know for a fact that they would be reall unhappy to read this if they get out! Which they will.. & yes everyone has the right to free speech but if you guys are so close then why even write all this? I don’t know but they gave lots of jobs & did do alot of good for AP.. So all I can say some of ur stories are right & some are way off! & public knowledge or not Rodolfo got cought in St. David! & that’s the truth!!!

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