Comments on: Posse Comitatus Revisited http://borderreporter.com/2009/03/posse-comitatus-revisited/ News and tales from the U.S.-Mexico border, covering immigration, politics, organized crime, Homeland Security, corruption and drug trafficking. Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:37:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Michel Marizco http://borderreporter.com/2009/03/posse-comitatus-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-10388 Michel Marizco Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:35:44 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=947#comment-10388 Thanks Sonorense, that's a really good catch. I'll stick to my point that I've never seen the military in action but you're totally right, I'm not omniscient. Thanks Sonorense, that’s a really good catch.
I’ll stick to my point that I’ve never seen the military in action but you’re totally right, I’m not omniscient.

]]> By: Sonorense http://borderreporter.com/2009/03/posse-comitatus-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-10386 Sonorense Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:30:32 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=947#comment-10386 Michel, You write " I’ve been bouncing back and forth between Tijuana, Sonora, Sinaloa and Chihuahua for the better part of a decade and I’ve never seen the military mix it up with anybody." For all the great stuff you write I think you are out of the loop on this one. I can give you lots of old and new examples, but lets focus on the new ones. For old ones just remember al JT. http://www.france24.com/en/20090210-21-die-mexican-standoff-between-gunmen-military-0 http://www.elsiglodetorreon.com.mx/noticia/250906.chocan-en-michoacan-narcos-y-el-ejercito.html http://seldonmatrix.com/?p=357 http://www.elmanana.com.mx/notas.asp?id=104345 and I could keep going and going... Regarding firepower, on a head on combat Narcos are no match but these are not head on combats for the most part but ambushes. Michel,

You write ” I’ve been bouncing back and forth between Tijuana, Sonora, Sinaloa and Chihuahua for the better part of a decade and I’ve never seen the military mix it up with anybody.”

For all the great stuff you write I think you are out of the loop on this one. I can give you lots of old and new examples, but lets focus on the new ones. For old ones just remember al JT.

http://www.france24.com/en/20090210-21-die-mexican-standoff-between-gunmen-military-0

http://www.elsiglodetorreon.com.mx/noticia/250906.chocan-en-michoacan-narcos-y-el-ejercito.html

http://seldonmatrix.com/?p=357

http://www.elmanana.com.mx/notas.asp?id=104345

and I could keep going and going…

Regarding firepower, on a head on combat Narcos are no match but these are not head on combats for the most part but ambushes.

]]> By: Ann http://borderreporter.com/2009/03/posse-comitatus-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-10385 Ann Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:46:27 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=947#comment-10385 Jack... maybe I am not understanding you. We are talking about women and children, and the fear of innocents being killed. But isnt that what the reality is now? My daughter in law and her 12 yr. old daughters best friend, both raped and knifed recently. Over 400 womens bodies in the desert. Children used for ransom demands. The children there are very unsafe now, we cant wait for what might be when the danger is unfolding as we disagree. Jack… maybe I am not understanding you. We are talking about women and children, and the fear of innocents being killed. But isnt that what the reality is now? My daughter in law and her 12 yr. old daughters best friend, both raped and knifed recently. Over 400 womens bodies in the desert. Children used for ransom demands. The children there are very unsafe now, we cant wait for what might be when the danger is unfolding as we disagree.

]]> By: Jack http://borderreporter.com/2009/03/posse-comitatus-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-10384 Jack Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:05:31 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=947#comment-10384 Michel writes: "Of course, if the Army and the Marines start serving as border guards, then the question of illegal immigration crops up. I cannot imagine the U.S. Marine Corps receiving orders to let illegal migrants through as long as they’re not carrying weapons or narcotics. This means that not only will we have federal agents chasing busboys through mesquite, we’ll also have the mightiest military in the world running after them." And likely shooting them. There are, of course, lots of xenophobes and haters that would love that. But those illegal migrants often include women and children. (I've met babies in mothers' arms as young as 6 months.) Lord forbid the military is posted here! One death of a child and we descend at once into the realm of of the worst kind of nations, like the Sudan. Michel writes: “Of course, if the Army and the Marines start serving as border guards, then the question of illegal immigration crops up. I cannot imagine the U.S. Marine Corps receiving orders to let illegal migrants through as long as they’re not carrying weapons or narcotics. This means that not only will we have federal agents chasing busboys through mesquite, we’ll also have the mightiest military in the world running after them.”

And likely shooting them. There are, of course, lots of xenophobes and haters that would love that. But those illegal migrants often include women and children. (I’ve met babies in mothers’ arms as young as 6 months.)

Lord forbid the military is posted here! One death of a child and we descend at once into the realm of of the worst kind of nations, like the Sudan.

]]> By: Ann http://borderreporter.com/2009/03/posse-comitatus-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-10383 Ann Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:43:09 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=947#comment-10383 The US has been trying hard to get in on the Mexican side of the border since everything came to a head in 2002 with all the hundreds of women found mutilated in the desert. At that time Mexico refused US help. We even lost some FBI who tried to represent the US interest in our own missing women whom we believe ended up on the other side, dead. Now, finally when even Mexico cannot pull the blindfold on others, we are going to get the help the US needs to give, with Mexicos ok. I do not think you can blame Fort Benning for the Mexican Elite Army going amuck and using there skills against there own government. Hindsight after all is 20/20. Personally I think things ARE starting to happen, will continue to happen and after a painful downfall will reverse. Its hard to see the sun from the mudpit, but it is there. The US has been trying hard to get in on the Mexican side of the border since everything came to a head in 2002 with all the hundreds of women found mutilated in the desert. At that time Mexico refused US help. We even lost some FBI who tried to represent the US interest in our own missing women whom we believe ended up on the other side, dead. Now, finally when even Mexico cannot pull the blindfold on others, we are going to get the help the US needs to give, with Mexicos ok. I do not think you can blame Fort Benning for the Mexican Elite Army going amuck and using there skills against there own government. Hindsight after all is 20/20. Personally I think things ARE starting to happen, will continue to happen and after a painful downfall will reverse. Its hard to see the sun from the mudpit, but it is there.

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