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		<title>By: move</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/%c2%bfmasacre-en-la-noria/comment-page-2/#comment-12228</link>
		<dc:creator>move</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 01:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conquered Aye?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2hnXgrnlUQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conquered Aye?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2hnXgrnlUQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2hnXgrnlUQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: move</title>
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		<dc:creator>move</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you mean Iraq was simplier? The US did not win over there. The Military threw in the towel and said &quot;OK we give up here is some money so you can stop bombing us&quot;. And Iraq is still not controlled by the US, Iran is backing plenty of people over there. Iraq as much as Afghanistan is a lost cause. 

And no one ever conquered Afghanistan, unless you believe that Alexander the Great did which I don&#039;t. Sure he might of did what all the other Empires have done and conquered the cities and the rulers but when it came to the mountain people he probaly gave in. Which is the same thing with the British and Russia, sure you level entire cities march your military in those places to look triumphant and for propaganda, but you can&#039;t say you concuered your enemies if they refuse to stop killing you. 

It must be a bitch to fight in the Mountains. Your enemy is on the top of the mountain your on the bottom. He can see you from miles away and you cant see him, even with all that technology. In many places helicopters can&#039;t fly because the air is too thin. Even if could fly in the area you want the guy could still be above you pointing an RPG because of the geography. 

Some Marine once told me that Afghanis laugh at the US way of fighting this war. They still have memories of the Russians and their no holds barred tactics they used on them. Compared to the Russians to fight the US is a walk in the park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you mean Iraq was simplier? The US did not win over there. The Military threw in the towel and said &#8220;OK we give up here is some money so you can stop bombing us&#8221;. And Iraq is still not controlled by the US, Iran is backing plenty of people over there. Iraq as much as Afghanistan is a lost cause. </p>
<p>And no one ever conquered Afghanistan, unless you believe that Alexander the Great did which I don&#8217;t. Sure he might of did what all the other Empires have done and conquered the cities and the rulers but when it came to the mountain people he probaly gave in. Which is the same thing with the British and Russia, sure you level entire cities march your military in those places to look triumphant and for propaganda, but you can&#8217;t say you concuered your enemies if they refuse to stop killing you. </p>
<p>It must be a bitch to fight in the Mountains. Your enemy is on the top of the mountain your on the bottom. He can see you from miles away and you cant see him, even with all that technology. In many places helicopters can&#8217;t fly because the air is too thin. Even if could fly in the area you want the guy could still be above you pointing an RPG because of the geography. </p>
<p>Some Marine once told me that Afghanis laugh at the US way of fighting this war. They still have memories of the Russians and their no holds barred tactics they used on them. Compared to the Russians to fight the US is a walk in the park.</p>
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		<title>By: Tantos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tantos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 04:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Move, you are talking about conflicting missions in Afganistan.  Iraq is simplier cuz they don&#039;t have any drug exports (that I&#039;m aware of?).  Remember Oliver North and the &quot;Iran-Contra&quot; affair?  North outed a few DEA informers in Central America and they were killed.  Apparently the DEA agents wouldn&#039;t let Ollie use their snitches to move money during that scandal.  Afganistan is a disaster no matter how you look at it.  Look at the British and Russian experiences there;  Afganistan is easy to conquer, but impossible to govern.

The Mexican Elite wouldn&#039;t dream of doing any deals with terrorists.  They are too beholden to the U.S. because we take care of their working poor (all other illegals are called OTM&#039;s &quot;Other Than Mexican&quot; and given a lower status than Mexicans).  Mexico already gets DHS money to deport OTM&#039;s from Mexico so we (the U.S) doesn&#039;t have to deal with them.  It&#039;s a helleva lot easier for Mexico to deport a bunch of Chinese immigrants, for example,  than it is for the U.S. with all those annoying civil liberties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Move, you are talking about conflicting missions in Afganistan.  Iraq is simplier cuz they don&#8217;t have any drug exports (that I&#8217;m aware of?).  Remember Oliver North and the &#8220;Iran-Contra&#8221; affair?  North outed a few DEA informers in Central America and they were killed.  Apparently the DEA agents wouldn&#8217;t let Ollie use their snitches to move money during that scandal.  Afganistan is a disaster no matter how you look at it.  Look at the British and Russian experiences there;  Afganistan is easy to conquer, but impossible to govern.</p>
<p>The Mexican Elite wouldn&#8217;t dream of doing any deals with terrorists.  They are too beholden to the U.S. because we take care of their working poor (all other illegals are called OTM&#8217;s &#8220;Other Than Mexican&#8221; and given a lower status than Mexicans).  Mexico already gets DHS money to deport OTM&#8217;s from Mexico so we (the U.S) doesn&#8217;t have to deal with them.  It&#8217;s a helleva lot easier for Mexico to deport a bunch of Chinese immigrants, for example,  than it is for the U.S. with all those annoying civil liberties.</p>
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		<title>By: move</title>
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		<dc:creator>move</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Esmeralda business deals, and being in bed with terrorist as you said are two different things. 

Like I said the warlords and the Afghan government are allies with the US and even they make deals with the Taliban when it comes to drug money. The fucking US military is in that country and they still don&#039;t do anything about it. When it comes to money some times you have to work with your enemies but that does not mean all of suden you stop killing eachother. Unless you use that money to completely pay of your opposition, like in Iraq were the US is giving money to the insurgents so they can stop killing them.

It wasn&#039;t the troop surge that calmed the place dowm despite the propaganda it was simple bribery. Think about it the US payed money to the very same people that were setting up road side bombs killing the soldiers. It worked better tha troops ever could. But it&#039;s not like they won Iraq because many places are controlled by people backed by Iran. 

When it comes to money and business deals you can&#039;t use the words &quot;in bed with&quot;. If it was just to do with money then the US is guilty of such things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esmeralda business deals, and being in bed with terrorist as you said are two different things. </p>
<p>Like I said the warlords and the Afghan government are allies with the US and even they make deals with the Taliban when it comes to drug money. The fooking US military is in that country and they still don&#8217;t do anything about it. When it comes to money some times you have to work with your enemies but that does not mean all of suden you stop killing eachother. Unless you use that money to completely pay of your opposition, like in Iraq were the US is giving money to the insurgents so they can stop killing them.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t the troop surge that calmed the place dowm despite the propaganda it was simple bribery. Think about it the US payed money to the very same people that were setting up road side bombs killing the soldiers. It worked better tha troops ever could. But it&#8217;s not like they won Iraq because many places are controlled by people backed by Iran. </p>
<p>When it comes to money and business deals you can&#8217;t use the words &#8220;in bed with&#8221;. If it was just to do with money then the US is guilty of such things.</p>
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		<title>By: ilegal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilegal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1262339394856&amp;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull  the big snake talking about &quot;snakeheads&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1262339394856&#038;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1262339394856&#038;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull</a>  the big snake talking about &#8220;snakeheads&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Hanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Move, check out a book called &quot;Twighlight in the Desert&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Move, check out a book called &#8220;Twighlight in the Desert&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Esmerelda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esmerelda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Case taken, I actually wasnt thinking directly part of them, I meant trading favors. Mexico was in bed with yement to keep the enphedrine coming, I am talking business deals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Case taken, I actually wasnt thinking directly part of them, I meant trading favors. Mexico was in bed with yement to keep the enphedrine coming, I am talking business deals.</p>
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		<title>By: cce848</title>
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		<dc:creator>cce848</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nomatter what the us has done the price of grass is still steady
200/kilo in ap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nomatter what the us has done the price of grass is still steady<br />
200/kilo in ap</p>
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		<title>By: move</title>
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		<dc:creator>move</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 01:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a rare moment I got to agree with ilegal here. You want to stop the US from being a terrorist target then the US needs to stop backing Israel. They have a very powerful army for its size and nukes, it&#039;s not like Israel is some defenseless country.  

If in fact some narcos have a business relationship with people linked to terrorist, if Im not mistaken there was one case of some Arabs supplying the ingredient for meth to a Mexican organization, that does not mean they are planning attacks with the bearded men in caves. And if your are some hardliner on the war on terror who thinks like a 2 year child and says anyone even remotely connected to terrorist money should be treated like an enemy combatant and killed, well then feel free to shoot yourself in the head. Why, you morons may ask? Simple, the answer is Saudi Arabia and there oil kingdom. 

Hell let&#039;s throw in all the fresh opium that the Afghanies are growing thanks the the US kicking out the old Taliban so the knew pro drug producing Taliban can use those heroin profits. Shit not only the new Taliban but also the Warlords that are allies of the US and puppet government that was installed are out there growing poppies. And even though the US allied Warlords and government are supposed to be enemies of the Taliban I&#039;m pretty sure people connected with both of them and Taliban do business together. 

The original point is terrorist get most of there money from Suadi Arabia, and most of that money comes from US consumption of Oil. You put gas in your car and your funding terrorism.

Iran I belive comes in second in funding terrorist.

The narcos are not a politcal group, what they care about is money. Actually directly helping terrorist in there operrations is not happening by any stretch of the imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a rare moment I got to agree with ilegal here. You want to stop the US from being a terrorist target then the US needs to stop backing Israel. They have a very powerful army for its size and nukes, it&#8217;s not like Israel is some defenseless country.  </p>
<p>If in fact some narcos have a business relationship with people linked to terrorist, if Im not mistaken there was one case of some Arabs supplying the ingredient for meth to a Mexican organization, that does not mean they are planning attacks with the bearded men in caves. And if your are some hardliner on the war on terror who thinks like a 2 year child and says anyone even remotely connected to terrorist money should be treated like an enemy combatant and killed, well then feel free to shoot yourself in the head. Why, you morons may ask? Simple, the answer is Saudi Arabia and there oil kingdom. </p>
<p>Hell let&#8217;s throw in all the fresh opium that the Afghanies are growing thanks the the US kicking out the old Taliban so the knew pro drug producing Taliban can use those heroin profits. Shit not only the new Taliban but also the Warlords that are allies of the US and puppet government that was installed are out there growing poppies. And even though the US allied Warlords and government are supposed to be enemies of the Taliban I&#8217;m pretty sure people connected with both of them and Taliban do business together. </p>
<p>The original point is terrorist get most of there money from Suadi Arabia, and most of that money comes from US consumption of Oil. You put gas in your car and your funding terrorism.</p>
<p>Iran I belive comes in second in funding terrorist.</p>
<p>The narcos are not a politcal group, what they care about is money. Actually directly helping terrorist in there operrations is not happening by any stretch of the imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: drift</title>
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		<dc:creator>drift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the people killed in the funeral procession in Culiacan, are they relatives of the deceased Chalo Araujo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the people killed in the funeral procession in Culiacan, are they relatives of the deceased Chalo Araujo?</p>
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