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		<title>By: sw40</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/beltrans-floundering/comment-page-1/#comment-12187</link>
		<dc:creator>sw40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just got back from a months vacation in parral chih,mex and let me tell u something , the government is deeply involved in the elimination of chapos enemys!the volience in the state is horrendous and the people are tired of narcos not only killing rivals but innocent bystanders including wives of narcos who have nothing to do with the war.No respect and honor they should be ashamed of themselves, eso no es ser hombre es ser cobarde.MEXICANS NEED TO STAND UP AND TAKE THE REIGNS FROM THEIR OPPRESSIVE CORRUPT GOV, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!! oh by the way the rumor is el chapo is hiding in the sierra of chih and durango everybody knows dat but the gov!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just got back from a months vacation in parral chih,mex and let me tell u something , the government is deeply involved in the elimination of chapos enemys!the volience in the state is horrendous and the people are tired of narcos not only killing rivals but innocent bystanders including wives of narcos who have nothing to do with the war.No respect and honor they should be ashamed of themselves, eso no es ser hombre es ser cobarde.MEXICANS NEED TO STAND UP AND TAKE THE REIGNS FROM THEIR OPPRESSIVE CORRUPT GOV, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!! oh by the way the rumor is el chapo is hiding in the sierra of chih and durango everybody knows dat but the gov!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tantos</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/beltrans-floundering/comment-page-1/#comment-12081</link>
		<dc:creator>Tantos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 04:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dwight, Mexico is not a democracy, never has been.  Ask some of the guachos from down south if they have any representation in the Mexican government.  Why would they support the government when they are treated like slaves with no hope for their children to escape poverty?  And why would they support a revolution like the Zapatistas in the 90&#039;s?  Why risk your life, when you can cross into the U.S, get a job, and your kids can go to school (and then maybe college)?  Maybe their kid is the next Henry Cejudo, who knows?

Most Americans have no idea how impotent these people feel.  They are just trying to survive.  And it doesn&#039;t help that the Catholic church ingrains in them that they should just suffer with dignity because it is all &quot;God&#039;s will.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dwight, Mexico is not a democracy, never has been.  Ask some of the guachos from down south if they have any representation in the Mexican government.  Why would they support the government when they are treated like slaves with no hope for their children to escape poverty?  And why would they support a revolution like the Zapatistas in the 90&#8242;s?  Why risk your life, when you can cross into the U.S, get a job, and your kids can go to school (and then maybe college)?  Maybe their kid is the next Henry Cejudo, who knows?</p>
<p>Most Americans have no idea how impotent these people feel.  They are just trying to survive.  And it doesn&#8217;t help that the Catholic church ingrains in them that they should just suffer with dignity because it is all &#8220;God&#8217;s will.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dwight</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/beltrans-floundering/comment-page-1/#comment-12047</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>el perdido you can&#039;t cop to that historia de Mexico, la malinche, blame it on the gobierno crap anymore. You can&#039;t expect your government to support you if you don&#039;t support your government. Cortez screwed the aztecs because the aztecs allowed it to happen. With the murder of Angulo&#039;s mother, now is the time if there ever was a time to say &quot;enough&quot;. Otherwise the narcos will own you for generations to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>el perdido you can&#8217;t cop to that historia de Mexico, la malinche, blame it on the gobierno crap anymore. You can&#8217;t expect your government to support you if you don&#8217;t support your government. Cortez screwed the aztecs because the aztecs allowed it to happen. With the murder of Angulo&#8217;s mother, now is the time if there ever was a time to say &#8220;enough&#8221;. Otherwise the narcos will own you for generations to come.</p>
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		<title>By: interested</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/beltrans-floundering/comment-page-1/#comment-12040</link>
		<dc:creator>interested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an observation, everybody is reacting to the killing of this marines family with anger. Everyone also agrees that this retaliation was a bad idea. Is it possible that this was a setup in order to get everyone againts them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an observation, everybody is reacting to the killing of this marines family with anger. Everyone also agrees that this retaliation was a bad idea. Is it possible that this was a setup in order to get everyone againts them?</p>
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		<title>By: T_R_C</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/beltrans-floundering/comment-page-1/#comment-12017</link>
		<dc:creator>T_R_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Move, The Life and Death of a Mexican Druglord by Terence Poppas was an exceptional book. And yes, Trejo is a perfect choice. It would be a great movie.  He has been to prison 3 times in the old days in California. He for sure understands the culture.
I new a lot of the OJ crew back in the day and some of the crew before his time. I have been clean 21 years. That was a bachelors degree and 2 masters ago.
Ole school tradition ment something back then until Armado came along and changed things forever. This is what we don&#039;t have now, legit plaza bosses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Move, The Life and Death of a Mexican Druglord by Terence Poppas was an exceptional book. And yes, Trejo is a perfect choice. It would be a great movie.  He has been to prison 3 times in the old days in California. He for sure understands the culture.<br />
I new a lot of the OJ crew back in the day and some of the crew before his time. I have been clean 21 years. That was a bachelors degree and 2 masters ago.<br />
Ole school tradition ment something back then until Armado came along and changed things forever. This is what we don&#8217;t have now, legit plaza bosses.</p>
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		<title>By: drift</title>
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		<dc:creator>drift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d have to go with Aponte Bravo or even for that even Macho Prieto, ive been laughing at this whole thing with how you look comments, they&#039;ve been funny as hell to me, i was telling myself what the hell are we checking out guys now? LOL! and i always thought that Danny Trejo looked like Pablo Acosta, they just need to give the book Druglord to a screenplay wrtiter to make it happen, if im correct Marco Antonio Haro is doing time in El Cereso at Juarez he was busted with a guy named El Sixto for selling little baggies, he got busted i think like 6-7yrs back in Juarez, Sixto was beat to shit in the photo and El Carnicero de Ojinaga was untouched</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d have to go with Aponte Bravo or even for that even Macho Prieto, ive been laughing at this whole thing with how you look comments, they&#8217;ve been funny as hell to me, i was telling myself what the hell are we checking out guys now? LOL! and i always thought that Danny Trejo looked like Pablo Acosta, they just need to give the book Druglord to a screenplay wrtiter to make it happen, if im correct Marco Antonio Haro is doing time in El Cereso at Juarez he was busted with a guy named El Sixto for selling little baggies, he got busted i think like 6-7yrs back in Juarez, Sixto was beat to shit in the photo and El Carnicero de Ojinaga was untouched</p>
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		<title>By: move</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/beltrans-floundering/comment-page-1/#comment-12013</link>
		<dc:creator>move</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Name Changer is D_NEPHEW not ilegal or you drift, unless you think ilegal and D_NEPHEW are the same person which I don&#039;t, their writing styles are too different. 

Drift come on man, the people around Arturo did not hold their ground. Now I was not there to see what happened exactly, but from the pictures I saw Arturo did not have a gun next to him. He had a cell phone close to by but that&#039;s it. None of the people around that I saw died with a gun on their hand. I think orders came down to kill Arturo not detain him. 

Look Arturo is an emotional guy that had delusions of being untouchable. As soon as his brother got caught he wants to raid the prison to get him out, not with any plan no fuck that just storm the place and get him out NOW because he was too stupid to wait. Then he blames Shorty and Mayo for what happened to Mochomo and the sons of Shorty, the a money launderer lady, and M1 are killed, not anybody important just their kids. Even though there is evidence that Mochomo got snitched on by a some military men he was trying to flip onto his side. 

Kills the people around him for kidnapping, even though they have been doing it for years already and the only reason he did it was to please the power in San Pedro. He could of been smart about it and given them so other type of work, or given them same work but in another place. Nope, his bright idea was to kill them and make it as public as possible. I can understand making it public the deaths of your enemies for psychological reasons, but killing your own that openly will make people around you questioned their loyalty. Think about it, you are out there risking your life and freedom for an organization that will turn on because some Mayor started complaining. If you are going to kill them do so quitely.

Then he surrounds himself with pretty boy yes men to protect him. Againg Drift if you had to chose between Bravo and Barbie to be in charge of security who would you pick? The Military Lieutenant or the playboy from Texas. Does giving Barbie that rank make sense? NO, FUCK NO!!!!

By the way Drift what do you think about a movie about Pablo Acosta aka el Zorro de Ojinaga starring Danny Trejo, the guy with the big ass Charra tattoo on his chest. Look up pictures on both of them and tell me if they don&#039;t look like twins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name Changer is D_NEPHEW not ilegal or you drift, unless you think ilegal and D_NEPHEW are the same person which I don&#8217;t, their writing styles are too different. </p>
<p>Drift come on man, the people around Arturo did not hold their ground. Now I was not there to see what happened exactly, but from the pictures I saw Arturo did not have a gun next to him. He had a cell phone close to by but that&#8217;s it. None of the people around that I saw died with a gun on their hand. I think orders came down to kill Arturo not detain him. </p>
<p>Look Arturo is an emotional guy that had delusions of being untouchable. As soon as his brother got caught he wants to raid the prison to get him out, not with any plan no fook that just storm the place and get him out NOW because he was too stupid to wait. Then he blames Shorty and Mayo for what happened to Mochomo and the sons of Shorty, the a money launderer lady, and M1 are killed, not anybody important just their kids. Even though there is evidence that Mochomo got snitched on by a some military men he was trying to flip onto his side. </p>
<p>Kills the people around him for kidnapping, even though they have been doing it for years already and the only reason he did it was to please the power in San Pedro. He could of been smart about it and given them so other type of work, or given them same work but in another place. Nope, his bright idea was to kill them and make it as public as possible. I can understand making it public the deaths of your enemies for psychological reasons, but killing your own that openly will make people around you questioned their loyalty. Think about it, you are out there risking your life and freedom for an organization that will turn on because some Mayor started complaining. If you are going to kill them do so quitely.</p>
<p>Then he surrounds himself with pretty boy yes men to protect him. Againg Drift if you had to chose between Bravo and Barbie to be in charge of security who would you pick? The Military Lieutenant or the playboy from Texas. Does giving Barbie that rank make sense? NO, fook NO!!!!</p>
<p>By the way Drift what do you think about a movie about Pablo Acosta aka el Zorro de Ojinaga starring Danny Trejo, the guy with the big ass Charra tattoo on his chest. Look up pictures on both of them and tell me if they don&#8217;t look like twins.</p>
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		<title>By: drift</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/beltrans-floundering/comment-page-1/#comment-12008</link>
		<dc:creator>drift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ilegal the name changer......that should be mine and Vincent Hannah&#039;s name....... LMAO.

You cant really call his guys useless, except for that one that was going to jump out the window. I mean they held theyre ground but Beltran should of taken the messages he was getting about the strange activity more seriously, but in my mind i think he was going to talk to the General he was going to meet up with as into find a way to get the hell out of Cuernavaca under some kind of convoy or see what military activity was going on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ilegal the name changer&#8230;&#8230;that should be mine and Vincent Hannah&#8217;s name&#8230;&#8230;. LMAO.</p>
<p>You cant really call his guys useless, except for that one that was going to jump out the window. I mean they held theyre ground but Beltran should of taken the messages he was getting about the strange activity more seriously, but in my mind i think he was going to talk to the General he was going to meet up with as into find a way to get the hell out of Cuernavaca under some kind of convoy or see what military activity was going on</p>
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		<title>By: T_R_C</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/beltrans-floundering/comment-page-1/#comment-12006</link>
		<dc:creator>T_R_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illegal, it may have been a Christmas Party for El Chapo but if I were him, I would not throw a New Years Eve get together (LOL). I suspect intities more powerful than cartels are taking aim. That is for a fact, what happened to Arturo. These stupid wars are threating the US and Mexican economies and when that happens, the CIA takes action. That is, if the cancer does not get El Chapo first. The diplomatic jefe&#039; wins. Not the loud ones. I wonder what the effect on the DOW would be if something were to happen to El Chapo? I would imagine that the major corporations investing in Mexico would, well could you say &quot;explode with enthusiasm.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illegal, it may have been a Christmas Party for El Chapo but if I were him, I would not throw a New Years Eve get together (LOL). I suspect intities more powerful than cartels are taking aim. That is for a fact, what happened to Arturo. These stupid wars are threating the US and Mexican economies and when that happens, the CIA takes action. That is, if the cancer does not get El Chapo first. The diplomatic jefe&#8217; wins. Not the loud ones. I wonder what the effect on the DOW would be if something were to happen to El Chapo? I would imagine that the major corporations investing in Mexico would, well could you say &#8220;explode with enthusiasm.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: move</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/beltrans-floundering/comment-page-1/#comment-12005</link>
		<dc:creator>move</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s more like MOVE 2 and Name Changer 0, why because you forgot to mention the death of Arturo. I told you Arturo was not going to last long. 

I have been saying this. That Arturo&#039;s days were numbered and the people around him were a bunch of useless morons. Proven right on both counts in one week. Guess all that gossiping between you and your supposed buddies in Mexico didn&#039;t mean a thing, you still got your info all wrong. That&#039;s what happens when you depend on rumors for info, even if you refuse to acknowledge that all you listen to are nothing but rumors by biased people pumping up their side. 

Again Barbie was a playboy from Texas that sold some drugs, he had no business having the rank Arturo gave him, and Zetas are all a bunch of parasites and you can&#039;t change their nature even if Arturo brought some of them under him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more like MOVE 2 and Name Changer 0, why because you forgot to mention the death of Arturo. I told you Arturo was not going to last long. </p>
<p>I have been saying this. That Arturo&#8217;s days were numbered and the people around him were a bunch of useless morons. Proven right on both counts in one week. Guess all that gossiping between you and your supposed buddies in Mexico didn&#8217;t mean a thing, you still got your info all wrong. That&#8217;s what happens when you depend on rumors for info, even if you refuse to acknowledge that all you listen to are nothing but rumors by biased people pumping up their side. </p>
<p>Again Barbie was a playboy from Texas that sold some drugs, he had no business having the rank Arturo gave him, and Zetas are all a bunch of parasites and you can&#8217;t change their nature even if Arturo brought some of them under him.</p>
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