Comments on: Sonora plays catch up http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/sonora-plays-catch-up/ News and tales from the U.S.-Mexico border, covering immigration, politics, organized crime, Homeland Security, corruption and drug trafficking. Fri, 04 May 2012 12:28:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Tijuana Red Light http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/sonora-plays-catch-up/comment-page-1/#comment-17903 Tijuana Red Light Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:51:00 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=2419#comment-17903 Rabbit I look forward to your return. Thank you for sharing your story with us. God bless! Rabbit I look forward to your return. Thank you for sharing your story with us. God bless!

]]> By: Jerry http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/sonora-plays-catch-up/comment-page-1/#comment-11966 Jerry Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:05:01 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=2419#comment-11966 Thats pesos per kilo! Thats pesos per kilo!

]]> By: Jerry http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/sonora-plays-catch-up/comment-page-1/#comment-11965 Jerry Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:03:09 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=2419#comment-11965 Man I'm never going to be able to sell my beach house if this crap isn't legalized. The new section of the coastal Highway from Desembogue to Puerto Lobos is now open(minus a bridge here and there) The navy has road blocks up (movable) outside of Puerto Penasco and planes are flying low all along the coast. down South.Something must be up! All I know is the Corvina are still biting,I can by blue crab for 54 bucks a kilo(big ones) from the fishcamp,my dog still plays goal keeper on my side during beach football,I'm bringing down a big bunch of hardwood scraps for night fires and the meteors look really great from the bottom o a Pacifico, Rich or broke (like me)Mexico in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere is the place to be. Man I’m never going to be able to sell my beach house if this crap isn’t legalized. The new section of the coastal Highway from Desembogue to Puerto Lobos is now open(minus a bridge here and there) The navy has road blocks up (movable) outside of Puerto Penasco and planes are flying low all along the coast. down South.Something must be up! All I know is the Corvina are still biting,I can by blue crab for 54 bucks a kilo(big ones) from the fishcamp,my dog still plays goal keeper on my side during beach football,I’m bringing down a big bunch of hardwood scraps for night fires and the meteors look really great from the bottom o a Pacifico,
Rich or broke (like me)Mexico in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere is the place to be.

]]> By: Amerioca http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/sonora-plays-catch-up/comment-page-1/#comment-11835 Amerioca Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:09:27 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=2419#comment-11835 Dido Rabbit! Great minds think a like just too far and too few between. What's happening in Mexico, SWA, the USA or where ever, is all inter-related and connected. That's what folks fail to realize sh8s not isolated anomalies...history backs it the dope game we have today the precedent was set in motion after WWII with the establishment of the Golden Crescent route from the Rock Pile through Turkey to Marseille to NYC (LCN here and here running it did so until the late 70's n 80's when the Colombianos started using Cubanos, Dominicaos, and direct sells) as well as from the Bekkah Valley thru Beirut to Marseille...then in the 60's the Golden Triangle route went into full swing with the 14K cats outta Hong Kong pullin the levers and the LCN and Nigerians doing a lot of the foot work through diplomatic pouches outta T-land...the SA cartels always had the coke game on lock with the routes established from the weed days...Nam ended H became passe then it was Disco, pure cokavich, and the snowing in Miami dayz. T The cartels jumped on the H band wagon beacuse of the similar cultivation climatic conditions and started producing S. American H. The War on Drugs basically shut down the Caribbean so they moved it on up through MX. Again MX had the routes, plazas up and running already from weed (remembering P. Acosta)... so it was C and bud (beginings of the poly-narco DTO metamorphisis)...the OLB's ran the meth game through their net of cookers but could never produce the volumes to meet the demands or expand. The Mex DTO's started out sellin the percursor chemicals then said F it and starting pumpin out ice from super labs so they added meth to the loads coming up hitting off the OLB who still handled the leg work ( the pens, state and FEDs help them forge alliances through the correctional facilities gangs...sayin no name but we all know the players). THe Isrealis and the cats in the EU had the Ex game on lock but again transpo was the biggest hinderance flights from Amsterdam to JFK and LAX became predicable so again the boyz south of the boarder stepped in with the super labs and transpo adding EX. to the list. Now they move everything for everybody . Using C. America and W. Africa as transhipment points...cuz again MFers in the West wanna get high. They'd be crazy not to control it. You still got product coming outta BC (the MX-DTO's are using the northern boarder as well) and Toronto and so forth but for all sense and purpose the MX DTO's run the show. Pookey , G-Money, on the corner are just that a jive ass corner boyz, retailers, who take majority of the daily pinches, flash the most , make the best press as the poster boys, keeping the county lock ups chuck full. I know I missed a few bits and pieces but that is basically the landscape that has led to the present state of affairs. See the thing is B, folks don't really see the macarbe pictures for what they are....its unrestricted warfare to furnish the insatiable market here. I mean why else would somebody resort to whack out folk in that manner ...it is tactical, strategic and PSYOPS. Folks kill me when they sit back and point finger...man those mexicans are crazy their country is so f'd up....nah MFers here are f'd up because your appeties breed that barbaricy there and in other spots...I don't it ever stopping. Folks would rather follow a NASCAR, NFL on Fox, or Britney's latest blow up then follow real news that effects them and theirs. Crazy! Best movie by far is Miami Vice (with Jamie n Colin), shit hit on a lot of points in a subtle manner like only M. Mann can do, showing the connective tissue. But the moral majority missed it because it wasn't over the top flashy tongue and cheek action and comedy. So it flew under the radar and got a lot of bad press from the desk jockey type academic critics who don't know the mechanics of weight dope deals. I'm through ramblin....will comment on other post if relevant or folks start trying the bum rush you, I got your six ,bud. Big ups too whoever is the father of this site I found it on a humble and locked it in the favorites. Good work! Guerra e Paz! Dido Rabbit! Great minds think a like just too far and too few between.
What’s happening in Mexico, SWA, the USA or where ever, is all inter-related and connected. That’s what folks fail to realize sh8s not isolated anomalies…history backs it the dope game we have today the precedent was set in motion after WWII with the establishment of the Golden Crescent route from the Rock Pile through Turkey to Marseille to NYC (LCN here and here running it did so until the late 70′s n 80′s when the Colombianos started using Cubanos, Dominicaos, and direct sells) as well as from the Bekkah Valley thru Beirut to Marseille…then in the 60′s the Golden Triangle route went into full swing with the 14K cats outta Hong Kong pullin the levers and the LCN and Nigerians doing a lot of the foot work through diplomatic pouches outta T-land…the SA cartels always had the coke game on lock with the routes established from the weed days…Nam ended H became passe then it was Disco, pure cokavich, and the snowing in Miami dayz. T The cartels jumped on the H band wagon beacuse of the similar cultivation climatic conditions and started producing S. American H. The War on Drugs basically shut down the Caribbean so they moved it on up through MX. Again MX had the routes, plazas up and running already from weed (remembering P. Acosta)…
so it was C and bud (beginings of the poly-narco DTO metamorphisis)…the OLB’s ran the meth game through their net of cookers but could never produce the volumes to meet the demands or expand. The Mex DTO’s started out sellin the percursor chemicals then said F it and starting pumpin out ice from super labs so they added meth to the loads coming up hitting off the OLB who still handled the leg work ( the pens, state and FEDs help them forge alliances through the correctional facilities gangs…sayin no name but we all know the players). THe Isrealis and the cats in the EU had the Ex game on lock but again transpo was the biggest hinderance flights from Amsterdam to JFK and LAX became predicable so again the boyz south of the boarder stepped in with the super labs and transpo adding EX. to the list.
Now they move everything for everybody . Using C. America and W. Africa as transhipment points…cuz again MFers in the West wanna get high. They’d be crazy not to control it. You still got product coming outta BC (the MX-DTO’s are using the northern boarder as well) and Toronto and so forth but for all sense and purpose the MX DTO’s run the show. Pookey , G-Money, on the corner are just that a jive ass corner boyz, retailers, who take majority of the daily pinches, flash the most , make the best press as the poster boys, keeping the county lock ups chuck full.

I know I missed a few bits and pieces but that is basically the landscape that has led to the present state of affairs. See the thing is B, folks don’t really see the macarbe pictures for what they are….its unrestricted warfare to furnish the insatiable market here. I mean why else would somebody resort to whack out folk in that manner …it is tactical, strategic and PSYOPS. Folks kill me when they sit back and point finger…man those mexicans are crazy their country is so f’d up….nah MFers here are f’d up because your appeties breed that barbaricy there and in other spots…I don’t it ever stopping. Folks would rather follow a NASCAR, NFL on Fox, or Britney’s latest blow up then follow real news that effects them and theirs. Crazy!

Best movie by far is Miami Vice (with Jamie n Colin), shit hit on a lot of points in a subtle manner like only M. Mann can do, showing the connective tissue. But the moral majority missed it because it wasn’t over the top flashy tongue and cheek action and comedy. So it flew under the radar and got a lot of bad press from the desk jockey type academic critics who don’t know the mechanics of weight dope deals.

I’m through ramblin….will comment on other post if relevant or folks start trying the bum rush you, I got your six ,bud. Big ups too whoever is the father of this site I found it on a humble and locked it in the favorites. Good work! Guerra e Paz!

]]> By: Rabbit http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/sonora-plays-catch-up/comment-page-1/#comment-11789 Rabbit Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:57:56 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=2419#comment-11789 Damn, whoever you are, I hope you make it far in this world. It feels good to hear your words. At least I was heard by a few good people. Some of the readers, being the needle dicks that they are, are not even trying to face the reality of what is going on in Mexico and the politics of it. They don't want it to stop. Can't afford it to stop. Keep your head up, Bro. Thanks!! Damn, whoever you are, I hope you make it far in this world. It feels good to hear your words. At least I was heard by a few good people. Some of the readers, being the needle dicks that they are, are not even trying to face the reality of what is going on in Mexico and the politics of it. They don’t want it to stop. Can’t afford it to stop. Keep your head up, Bro. Thanks!!

]]> By: Amerioca http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/sonora-plays-catch-up/comment-page-1/#comment-11785 Amerioca Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:36:15 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=2419#comment-11785 Rabbit, I feel you 110%. I speak from experience albeit at a miniscule scale. Nevertheless, learned to use my third eye from an older cat (a la Training Day like) and a few radical professors. Once I saw Esco go in 92', I knew their was no future in "Tha Game". Its built for a the chosen few, the behind the scene shot callers who make and break policy globally, the fat cats. Most folks can't handle the truth because it is so revolutionary...it destroys everything they have been conditioned to believe in and the way they think. Like a blind man see light for the first time. So when the truth comes out they reject it as BS or ramblings of a whack job...but ask yourself or better yet they should ask themselves...what man (we are men here so i say man), that changed the world was readily accepted when he first stepped onto the scene. But yet these individuals spoke the truth and in time changed the world on its axis. Do your thing irmao/hermano/piasano and if you decide to put pen to paper you got the basis to do so. its your life and jewels to share. When I was w/ Uncle Sam we would say, the only folks that remember old soldiers and old battles are old soldiers...same goes for the the OC game as well! Paz! Rabbit, I feel you 110%. I speak from experience albeit at a miniscule scale. Nevertheless, learned to use my third eye from an older cat (a la Training Day like) and a few radical professors. Once I saw Esco go in 92′, I knew their was no future in “Tha Game”. Its built for a the chosen few, the behind the scene shot callers who make and break policy globally, the fat cats.

Most folks can’t handle the truth because it is so revolutionary…it destroys everything they have been conditioned to believe in and the way they think. Like a blind man see light for the first time. So when the truth comes out they reject it as BS or ramblings of a whack job…but ask yourself or better yet they should ask themselves…what man (we are men here so i say man), that changed the world was readily accepted when he first stepped onto the scene. But yet these individuals spoke the truth and in time changed the world on its axis.

Do your thing irmao/hermano/piasano and if you decide to put pen to paper you got the basis to do so. its your life and jewels to share. When I was w/ Uncle Sam we would say, the only folks that remember old soldiers and old battles are old soldiers…same goes for the the OC game as well! Paz!

]]> By: El Flaco http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/sonora-plays-catch-up/comment-page-1/#comment-11761 El Flaco Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:14:50 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=2419#comment-11761 ABL taken out! http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_14015413?source=most_viewed ABL taken out!

http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_14015413?source=most_viewed

]]> By: Rabbit http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/sonora-plays-catch-up/comment-page-1/#comment-11758 Rabbit Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:06:52 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=2419#comment-11758 American, your brain is my brain. Thank you for being smart enough to express words. All these people have a lot of realising to do. I'm keeping the rest of my story to myself, for now. Some of these readers don't deserve my words. But thank you for being the words of a very reasonable man. American, your brain is my brain. Thank you for being smart enough to express words. All these people have a lot of realising to do. I’m keeping the rest of my story to myself, for now. Some of these readers don’t deserve my words. But thank you for being the words of a very reasonable man.

]]> By: Amerioca http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/sonora-plays-catch-up/comment-page-1/#comment-11748 Amerioca Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:30:00 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=2419#comment-11748 The Zetas were not the first "good guys" to cross the fence they were probably the first to do so as a group and advertise it. Rabbit write a book and get compensated off your story don't give it away. You gave away enough through the seizures! Vai com Deus! The Zetas were not the first “good guys” to cross the fence they were probably the first to do so as a group and advertise it. Rabbit write a book and get compensated off your story don’t give it away. You gave away enough through the seizures! Vai com Deus!

]]> By: Amerioca http://borderreporter.com/2009/12/sonora-plays-catch-up/comment-page-1/#comment-11747 Amerioca Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:19:56 +0000 http://borderreporter.com/?p=2419#comment-11747 Rabbit is on point.....anybody that opens their eyes and has taken biz 101 (the dope game folks is a pure business, nada mais e nada menos) so the old Supply and Demand principal is in effect in blazin Neon. The consumer demand of a consumer society fuels in the U.S. and the EU!...breaths life....fills the sails with air....puts lift in the wings....of the DTO's not just in MX but CO and central america, plus BR and the CdE and Panama City..... which in turns fuels other feeder enterprises such as arms trafficking, money laundering....with the proceeds from all supporting the daily general functions of society.....such as employment, budgets (City, State, County, FED) through the prison industrial complex (the whole Gitmo to Thomson, IL is a prime example...looking to save a community with employment from housing tangos...where once factories would have filled this role. All in all legalization may work but nobody has the sacos to stand up and push the legislation through or vote on it plus their is order in the status quo believe it or not (like the Sand Box before Sadam was taken out). Still the root of the problem must be explored....why the F#%k folks here want to get high so much! What in our society is fueling this need to escape the pressures to ball and chase the paper or escape ones failure to attain. Find the root and service it then that kills the demand which will dry the supply up. But that will never happen as the world keeps spinning....its a Doggy Dawg World! Just my thoughts. Out here! Rabbit is on point…..anybody that opens their eyes and has taken biz 101 (the dope game folks is a pure business, nada mais e nada menos) so the old Supply and Demand principal is in effect in blazin Neon. The consumer demand of a consumer society fuels in the U.S. and the EU!…breaths life….fills the sails with air….puts lift in the wings….of the DTO’s not just in MX but CO and central america, plus BR and the CdE and Panama City….. which in turns fuels other feeder enterprises such as arms trafficking, money laundering….with the proceeds from all supporting the daily general functions of society…..such as employment, budgets (City, State, County, FED) through the prison industrial complex (the whole Gitmo to Thomson, IL is a prime example…looking to save a community with employment from housing tangos…where once factories would have filled this role. All in all legalization may work but nobody has the sacos to stand up and push the legislation through or vote on it plus their is order in the status quo believe it or not (like the Sand Box before Sadam was taken out).

Still the root of the problem must be explored….why the F#%k folks here want to get high so much! What in our society is fueling this need to escape the pressures to ball and chase the paper or escape ones failure to attain. Find the root and service it then that kills the demand which will dry the supply up. But that will never happen as the world keeps spinning….its a Doggy Dawg World! Just my thoughts. Out here!

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