Business as Usual Along the Border

Mar 26th, 2010 | By Michel Marizco | Category: General News, Organized Crime, Politics
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THE BORDER REPORT

The Feds’ 2010 Drug Threat Assessment has been released and its findings are representative of some cynical assumptions I’ve carried over the past three years: Mexican cartel wars or no cartel wars, this border is business as usual.

I’ve long said that the best assessor of success or failure in drug law enforcement has been the market. The market doesn’t lie and it doesn’t spin. And what it’s telling us now is that Mexico’s drug cartels are busier than ever cultivating and trafficking our dope. Thousands dead or no, everyone is fat and happy.

Sixteen thousand people have died in the Mexican cartel and government wars since Pres. Felipe Calderón took office in 2006. Despite the gun battles, the beheadings, the dismemberments and the general chaos of a country under siege, drug production and trafficking into the U.S. have only improved. The U.S.’s and Mexico’s efforts have had no effect.

Consider these numbers:

Heroin production in Mexico nearly doubled between 2007 and 2008, from 17 metric tons to 38. That led to higher purity content and cheaper prices in 2009.

The Mexican Army has been too busy shooting narcos to worry much about burning  crops. As a result, marijuana eradication in Mexico dropped 48 percent. At least, that’s the U.S. government’s reasoning. It could be the case. My colleague, Malcolm Beith, a reporter in Mexico for many years, notes that crop burns are notoriously slow affairs.

The Americans put it like this:

“The reduction is the result of the Mexican military’s focus on antiviolence measures rather than illicit crop cultivation.”

Which you would expect the American Feds to say, I suppose.

The amount of marijuana grown in Mexico increased from an estimated 13,500 metric tons to 21,500 metric tons between 2003 and 2008. Think about that for a moment: in 2003, the border was virtually at peace; the Gulf Cartel’s Zetas were just getting rolling in Nuevo Laredo; Joaquín Chapo Guzmán and El Viceroy Vicente Carrillo were at peace; the sibling killings wouldn’t happen until the next year.

In 2008, the Beltrán brothers had just split from the Sinaloa Federation, the Sinaloans invaded Cd. Juárez and everyone was staying away from Tamaulipas while El Teo Teodoro García had just started his vendetta against the Arellano Felix family in Tijuana. Northern Mexico was at war. Yet business continued; and flourished.

Check out methamphetamine prices: From January 2007 to September 2009, meth’s pure gram price dropped 13 percent while purity increased 22 percent.

The only drug to see an increase in prices and a drop in availability has been cocaine. Between January 2007 and September 2009, cocaine prices increased an astonishing 75 percent while purity dropped 31 percent.

Of course, between 2007 and 2009, the market crashed and the economy went down the toilet so it’s possible that the cocaine consumers switched over to cheap thrills (meth), or numbed the pain (pot). The Feds’ assumption is that the Colombians are seeking out global markets instead of dealing with the headache of Mexican traffickers.

There’s another point to consider: Colombia is slowly losing its power as a cocaine hegemon because of government forces backed by the U.S. This can be a handy line of reasoning as the U.S. increases aid to Mexico in its drug interdiction efforts. Of course, if this is the case, remember that it took them 20 years to finally get it right.

One other fascinating point to consider is this footnote to the NDIC report.

No reliable estimates are available regarding the amount of domestically cultivated or processed marijuana. The amount of marijuana available in the United States–including marijuana produced both domestically and internationally–is unknown. Moreover, estimates as to the extent of domestic cannabis cultivation are not feasible because of significant variability in or nonexistence of data regarding the number of cannabis plants not eradicated during eradication seasons, cannabis eradication effectiveness, and plant-yield estimates.

Really? That’s interesting. The U.S. has hard numbers on metric ton production in Mexico, including regions, individual growers and seizures, but no idea how much is produced in its borders. Boca abierta. O cerrada, as the case may be.

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  1. Thanks Michel. Great Post!

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  2. i know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy who is complaining about sticky cocaine shit hitting the streets in the last months, the price for ounce, here in cali goes from 625 bucks for regular stuff (the one you can’t cut otherwise nobody would comeback to buy from you again), to 800 bucks for an ounce of fairly good stuff, (the one you can put a quarter of good “corte” in, and still make your customers happy and comeback again)

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  3. Those prices sound about right.

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  4. I know a Guy who knows a Guy that knows another Guy here in Chicago that says 850 and 1000 respectively, regarding illegals comment. Good post Mich!

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  5. nice prices in Chicago, and for some reason i’m almost sure that quality and demand are higher over there.

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  6. http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/03/police-seize-8-million-worth-of-pot.html ,Looks like their cracking down on the zetas over here, according to a conversation I overheard at the barbershop.

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  7. Like yeyo said before its all over the place here, now the Mexican shwag its hard to come by in the last few months , its at about 800 for the so so 1000 for the bright green, Based on a conversation I overheard at a bar

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  8. LOL….compadre ilegal the problem is that you got to many intermediaries….I only know 1 guy y me deja la onza a 450…..sin corte….mexican schawg a 240 la libreta….you got to go to the source… fook brokers….

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  9. for the record dije”me deja” i never said I buy or i was interested in buying…. lol…

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  10. pues fook brokers! yo soy campesino y de la sierra… entonces vengan conmigo!

    lol.. i was kidding!

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  12. muy interesante sobrino, pero tu eres chaka, a menos que quieras acordarte aca de los mortales y tires paro, digo, para que le hagas el paro al compa ese que te digo…

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  13. Kansas City being a main distrubution point here in the midwest una cuadro blanco is roughly 29.5 varies by quality and supply as well as demand of course.Un libro verde can still be bought from $500 to $650 also varies by quality and supply as well as demand but we are talkin that reggie miller.Alot of that comecial mexican rolling around here that fluffy smelly stuff is hard to come by but first hand prices are around $1000 por libro.Of course I got this info cause I picked up a hitch hiker a few weeks ago and he enlightend my outdated ass cause I really dont know. The flow hasnt stopped and wont stop completely but in my opinion prices are inflated and from what I hear coke aint all that good these but still packs a punch..Back home in Chicago the fish scale wasnt to hard to find back in the day.Around here if you know the story about KC steaks and why they are named KC strip steaks you can only imagine that the pushers hold back on a few USDA choice cuadros before they hit Chicago,St Paul,Mineapolis,Milwakee.Detroit,Des Moines,St Louis all all the other midwestern cities.This all he said she said I might not be acurate in my numbers due to the fact that I dont condone or support the drug trade any more.BTW anybody know anything on numbers as to how much is produced here in the states I saw a documentry once cant remeber the name about massive Marijuana plots in the Mts of California and Oregon??

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  14. @Sobrino
    450 and 240 aaaayyyyyyyyyy guey!!! En Minesota anda a 800 y en Chicago como 700..dichoso ese puto que esta violando a la raza con 240..j/k..450 si ay pero vien jodida aka por estos lados si se la vendes a un guey que va rockiarla te la abienta en la cara.

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  15. i believe they found maryjane growing in Denver or somewhere in Colorado this past year if im correct, found it…….

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/29/thousands-more-pot-plants-found-in-another-nationa/

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  17. A hitch hiker told me is a classic now…

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  18. Wow, guys, we need to hook up so I can make some money. Lol! I’ve been telling Michel the prices have increased significantly over the past couple years. The estimates you guys are giving are low compared to places that a friend of a friend of a friend told me.

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  19. damn, it looks like all have a lot of friends, lol! como dijo un gringo viejo por ahi “damn ;Mexikins; with their drugs and money”

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  20. Mexican Cartel’s…the poster children for free market capitalism!!!

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  21. I just realized how crazy we the readers of this blog are one day we are arguing with a criminal justice major the next day we are taking on minutemen redneck supporters then a few days later we are talking precios de merca en nuestra area.No cabe duda que el mundo va para bajo tamos echos garras raza!!..lol.A hitch hiker told me that border reporter blog is on and popping.All we need isabella and her model friends and we got a party.. Con las de 450 pura y vamonos recio asta arriba chihuahuao..BTW Isabella was a clothing desingner that specialized on “Bling Bikinis”..Rumor has it she was porking Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite or at least thats what a un compa told me..ha ha.
    @Michele good wrtiting nice way to break it down your shit is raw as can be no bullshit manipulation of the truth like any other writers.

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  22. hasta en espana nos quieren a los mexicanos…just kidding, they hate our murdering asses now http://www.exonline.com.mx/diario/noticia/global/europa/xenofobia,_tras_asesinato_de_espanol_en_chihuahua/904587

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  23. @ El Pato
    The south side is notorious and known for their connections with the southern cartels of mexico because if you split Chicago by north and south you will see that the northside Mexican crowd is predominently.. Durango, Chiuahua,Zacatecas but if you venture south you will see that it turns into Guerrero,Guanajuato,Michoacan not in all cases but just think about it.The northside and the suburbs Stone Park,Melrose Park,Franklin Park all hava the same people you get to Cicero and the southside you will find that that as far as mexican states they have alot in common.But the gueros are getting if you know the underworld you will find that the Outfit runs warehouses where they grow their own shit in order to avoid the inflation that the Mexican counter parts put on the prices when it dries out from time to time.They grow that fluffy sincemilla the dro as they call it.So when comercial is hard to find and all there is is that dro you know now where it comes from.Alot of million dollar bust this year so far in chicago with substancial amounts of mota that is part of the reason the prices are how they are.

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  24. @YEYO

    es cierto viejon…a veces nos agarramos a chihuahuadazos entre nosotros…otros dias con los gringos racistas….en otra ocasion con una mentada isabella….i’m starting to think some of us our bi-polar including me….lol…por eso digo ke we should have a borderreporter reunion…hahaha…. imagine el desmadre?…. el move y el ilegal for sure are going to have sit on opposite sides…lol…

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  25. lmao @ Yeyo & El Sobrino puro pinchi bipolar

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  26. @ Yeyo,You ain’t lying , I stay on the southside and know quite a bit about the outfit, most of the dro that I hear of comes from the yuppies in Lincoln park and wicker park, they trade it for la Blanca, well that’s what the hitchhiker at the bar told me lol. @ D nephew those r some sweet prices. It still surprises me 50 a key en la sierra to around 1500 a key here, Simple Economics.

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  27. I been diagnosed as Bipolar! Lol

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  28. http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Chicago.heights.marijuana.2.335908.html
    This is the type of Outfit shit going on.Oconner is the dudes last name look back into chicago mob history and you will see that last neme goes way back to the capone era.

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  29. i just know you guys got some good stories from hitchhikers but, Michel’s hitchhiker es El Rey de Reyes among Hitchhikers. He could be a Drifter/Vagabundo

    lmao

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  30. This probably old news to some of you but just thought I would share this from Nuevo Dia.

    La noche de ayer varios gatilleros ultimaron con ráfagas de metralleta al Sub-Director de Seguridad Pública Municipal, Adalberto Padilla Molina, que era acompañado por su escolta, el oficial Iván Sepúlveda Espinoza, cuando se trasladaban a bordo de una unidad, tipo vagoneta, sobre el periférico Colosio y el Boulevard Kennedy, así mismo un menor fue lesionado y se debate entre la vida y la muerte en el Seguro Social.

    http://www.nuevodia.com.mx/pdf/local/1a.pdf

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  31. A hitchhiker I picked up in Napa (hitch hiking is coming back in style i guess) has a license to grow medical marijuana.The clubs pay him 1500-2000 a pound (down from 3 grand 2 years ago).it needs to be perfect and no trace of a mold smell(which is really hard to do in humid basements (according to said hitch hiker)
    The bottom line is all these hitch hikers are going to need to find a new line of work when it’s legal.Check out a TekSupply catalog and figure what a real farmer can produce great weed for in a green house.My guess is 200 bucks a pound would feed the bulldog.

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  32. I resent that!

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  33. I would vote for Pedro, I just wouldn’t sleep with him… Or any Mexican/Mexican American for that matter.

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  34. @Isabella
    The real isabella would not have posted anything because she was done with this blog a week ago therefore I question if you are the real Isabella.. If so prove it!!..

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  35. @Isabella
    The real isabella would not have posted anything because she was done with this blog a week ago therefore I question if you are the real Isabella.. If so prove it!!..
    lol

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  36. Well, I’m certainly not Eminem. As for the last post, where ALL OF YOU got bitch slapped by some racist jerk, my pinky would have come up with better comebacks than what you guys came up with.

    For starters, all you had to bring up was: Deliverance (the 1972 movie with Jon Voight and Burt Reynolds) and the fact that the South will not rise again (ever again). It’s common knowledge that the Southern part of the United States, except for Miami, of course, because technically we’re an extended part of Cuba and maybe Texas and New Mexico (the extended part of Mexico), has been on its knees since the Civil War, so they blame Hispanics for everything, literally everything. Instead, they should blame themselves for the rampant inbreeding and too much moonshine. Racism is for ignorant people (white trash) who blame other cultures for “invading the U.S.,” when it was their ancestors who did it first, we’re just doing it better because we don’t fook our family, that’s disgusting by the way – even animals know not to do that, it limits your genetic pool + you end up with 6 toes and 3 blind eyes. Anyhow, that’s all you had to say, but I thought it was amusing that everyone was riled up over some fool who’s mother is also his sister and cousin. For goodness sake, some of us speak English better than they do, it’s truly a shame.

    As for business as usual: Where there are junkies there will always be business. A market will only last as long as the need and demand for the product itself – if no one buys, no one will sell.

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  37. =)

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  38. 800 word responses. It’s her.

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  39. no shit, it is her.

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  40. Of course it’s her. This blog is one big sausage fest, and anytime a female comes along everyone jumps on her. Isabella claimed she wasn’t even going to read this blog anymore, now she admits to follwing our post and even judges the quality of our response to those idiot rednecks.

    Yeyo I think she like you fool. She wouldn’t say anything against the white trash, even though from reading her post it was obvious what they said offended her, because she did not want to look foolish for going back on her word of never visiting this site again. As soon as Yeyo says something about her she got excited, a certain part in her body got a little wet, and she could not stand it any longer. She wanted all the attention you were giving her earlier all over again. In the end she can act all offended but like the homies always say, She likes it, She likes it, no mas se hace la que no.

    Yeyo handle it.

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  41. @michel

    LMAO……

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  42. @ Michel

    You heard anything about el jefe de policia, other than what nuevo dia is saying? Btw my math skills are improving thanks to your spam protection… just thought you would like to know lol

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  43. Nadien: Is that the Police Chief that was found decapitated?

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  44. Isabella
    Why would you never sleep with a Mexican/Mexican American? That can almost be a racist comment mija.

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  45. Gallo: It was only a JOKE, I was responding to Yeyo’s comment,””..Rumor has it she was porking Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite or at least thats what a un compa told me..ha ha.”

    Napoleon Dynamite is a really funny movie, I think everyone should watch it. In the movie, Pedro, a transfer student from Mexico runs for class president against Summer (a white girl). His friend Napoleon helps him win, their slogan is, “Vote for Pedro.” I said I would vote for Pedro, but I wouldn’t sleep with him – it was only a joke.

    Granted, there’s only Cubans in Miami. That’s all I have to work with. I’m sorry if I offended you, I guess YeYo is the only person that’s watched the movie, which is why he referenced it. I didn’t mean to be offensive.

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  46. @ Isebella

    Nice to have you back, Sweetheart! I knew you wouldn’t give up. Keep up the good fight! By the way, I didn’t let the racists get off easy. Just don’t argue with with people who are so damn ignorant, and stupid. That’s the great thing about this site, even the mindless hicks have a voice, even though the rest of us make more noise.

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  47. Gallo: Y para que sepas, hablas de mi ego, pero todavia me caes bien.

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  48. Orale Isabella. I was hoping you weren’t writing a six page response. It was already making my head hurt. BTW bitch slapped was kinda strong. We really didn’t let him get away easily. We just sorta cooled itthere ‘cuz we are mostly gentlemen.

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  49. Welcome back Isabella.

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  50. Drift, what do you think of Dexter?

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  51. I miss the Medellin Cartel & Pablo Escobar and Carlos Lehder.

    Mexico was fairly peaceful until their deletion.

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  52. I miss the Medellin Cartel and Pablo Escobar & Carlos Lehder.

    Mexico was peaceful before they were run out of business….

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  53. Each of you should research this site: http://www.usillegalaliens.com/

    If you don’t, the you know illegal border entry is wrong.

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  54. In Biting the Hand That Feeds You, Congressman Steve King of Iowa noted:

    What would the May 1, 2006, illegal immigration boycott look like without illegal immigration?

    •The lives of 12 U.S. citizens would be saved who otherwise would die a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens each day.
    •Another 13 Americans would survive who are otherwise killed each day by uninsured drunk driving illegals.
    •There would be no one to smuggle across our southern border the heroin, marijuana, cocaine, and methamphetamines, which plague the United States, reducing the U.S. supply of methamphetamines that day, by 80%.
    •Our hospital emergency rooms would not be flooded with everything from gunshot wounds, to anchor babies, to imported diseases, to hangnails, giving American citizens the day off from standing in line behind illegals.
    •Eight American children would not suffer the horror as victims of sex crimes.
    I’ll bet you did not see Congressman King’s comments on the evening news.

    (Note: see Day Without Illegal Immigration for even more information on the illegal alien boycott.)

    Are Congressman King’s comments baseless rhetoric, hateful speech, or actual facts? The MSM (mainstream media) and proponents of illegal aliens consistently bombard us with reports of an individual illegal alien that has done what most legal immigrants do: work hard and succeed. However, what they rarely tell us about are any of the negative aspects of illegal immigration. This report will detail some of the dark, negative aspects of the impact of illegal aliens that you might not be aware of.

    Let’s start with a broad summary on how illegal immigration is or can affect you personally. Here are just some of the negative side affects of illegal immigration:

    •easy conduit for terrorists entering the USA
    •massive escalation in crime
    •surge in foreign national prisoners to support for years
    •increases Balkanization of US
    •increases multiculturalism/segregation/divisiveness instead of the American melting pot
    •increases desire for Aztlan (reclaiming SW states for Mexico)
    •increasing number of traffic accidents
    •main contributor to surging US population
    •dramatic impact on society and infrastructure, including education
    •destruction of fragile ecosystems in American SW
    •main cause of emergency rooms and hospitals closing as well as service cut backs
    •introduction of third world diseases
    •increased welfare costs
    •massive costs to society – over and above contributions
    Let’s now examine The Darker Side of Illegal Immigration in greater detail.

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  55. Dude, you’re on a roll!

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  56. You ought to try it Tyson. Could be better than doing your sister’s pooter.

    Bastardo, it doesn’t surprise me you are citing King. One idiot following another. Why don’t you mention that King retracted most of those comments and downgraded the rest after he saw that his stats did not coincide with the released GAO report. If you have been following that right winger, then you know about all his racist comments about immigrants, President Obama, Haitians, Katrina victims, and the list goes on. He is a Hannity clone and believes that Joe McCarthey was good for America. His type is the reason for all the hate in America and sowing idiots like you who follow them because your fathers did. You perpetuate along with your kids because you keep preaching the same crap to them. Things are changing Bastard.

    In all my time in Iowa, not once did I encounter a person with your thinking who would stand up and debate them face to face. I read them in editorial pages and blogs where they publish with their little pink fingers citing their heroes. Seig Heil B-Boy. See you around.

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  57. You’re just a radical Democrat

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  58. Thanks for coming back Isabella….

    http://www.metacars.com/worldwide-server-crashes-as-moderately-attractive-woman-posts-pictures-of-self-with-car-on-fan-forum/

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  59. Not that you’re “moderately attractive”. I’m certain you are absolutely stunning.

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  60. hey , bastard, we all know that entering the u.s illegally it’s wrong, in fact, i know better, i’m an illegal, lol!! and for the record, i will be crossing the border in and out illegally every time i need it.

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  61. hey , bastardo, we all know that entering the u.s illegally it’s wrong, in fact, i know better, i’m an illegal, lol!! and for the record, i will be crossing the border in and out illegally every time i need it.

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  62. I’m in El Paso and a quarter of good yay my homeboy cops for $120 and for even better yay about $150 no lie and $450 a ounce Mexican shawg is relatively easy to come by I know someone that got a lb of some bright green for $150 but they’re usually around $180-350 depending on who u know lots of people try and get their tax on the product
    I find some of the prices I’ve read on here outrages but I can agree with what D_nephew said the other day: go to the source!!
    The number of busts and raids is significantly increasing though, as are the number of snitches..

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    MARIA Reply:

    HELLO EPT915

    I’m doing a special project related to the border, Mexico tourism and drugs.

    I need someone that is willing to talk to me, like an interview, to ask about prices and stuff. I’M IN COLOMBIA (yeah, were all the kingpins are and were) and I need someone.

    CAN YOU?
    Please if you know the actual guy who sells the shit and wants to talk. Please write to my email

    sparklintemptress@yahoo.com

    If anyone here knows a guy who actually sells any of those things NEAR THE BORDER…please write.

    Thanks

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  63. Rabbit: Thank you! I was reading all along. Some of the comments warmed my icy heart.

    T_R_C: Thanks!

    Gallo: I won’t make your heart hurt, I promise.

    Everyone: I suppose the (fat) Bastard is an avid reader of the blog now.

    Bastard: Why do I feel like I’ve seen you on Jerry Springer? Which episode were you on? Tell me, I promise, it will be our little secret, I won’t tell the rest of the blog. If I could be on Springer, I would, but unfortunately they only allow white trash on the show.

    As for the hand that feeds you, talk to the Jewish Americans in New York and California. They feed trash like you and they also feed King. Why do you think most Americans look down on white trash like you? Because they trashed America. If it wasn’t for the Jewish Americans, Irish Americans, Italian Americans, Hispanic Americans (yes, I said it), you would be eating dirt right now or your mother’s leg, it’s all the same. So, on behalf of all of us, YOU ARE VERY WELCOME. You may go back to screwing your sister/mother, I’m sure she’s a lovely girl with webbed feet.

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  64. Speaking as a guy that never gave a crap about mexico until i built a few beach houses near Desemboque four years ago.It really bums me that the drug war and the housing bubble(gangsters in suits that kill with a pen) have hurt the guys from the Ejido near my places.90 guys that used to over fish the sea were trained to build houses and picked it up fast.They could live and work 6 miles from home.Now all but 8 are laid off.Some now have to head for the states.
    Jorge Castaneda has a great post about the problem and the solutions:
    http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0325/Mexico-s-war-on-drugs-is-a-disaster
    “It would, most controversially, require some sort of a tacit deal with some cartels, and“the full force of the law” against others. This may seem outrageous to many readers, but it is less scandalous than it may appear. Mexico has traditionally made these arrangements; one of the most emblematic figures of Calderón’s own party has accused him of already doing so, and it is pretty much what the Obama administration is carrying out with the poppy growers and heroin producers in Afghanistan.

    Most important, though, it would demand a totally different, “de-narcotized” US-Mexican agenda. This means placing Mexican development at the top of that agenda; it involves returning to the reform agenda on immigration, energy, and infrastructure, and social cohesion funds, and even making Mexican anti-trust policy (currently an oxymoron) a legitimate item on that agenda.

    It is a post-NAFTA, 21st-century vision, where security plays a key role, but where drug policy becomes once again a law enforcement issue, not one of national security for either nation.

    Obama has the “big picture” capability for this, and hopefully, seven years ahead of him. Calderón has not proved he possesses that boldness, and his term is winding down. So this may be the last call.”

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  65. Tyson: Never say never.

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  66. Rex: I just saw your comments, thanks!

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  67. Immigration reform is happening as we speak..There is no need to even conversate with the minority redneck crowd they dont realize how retarded they look in the eyes of the real Americans.

    Many hispanics fought for the Confedirete Movement like the Benavides regiment of the 10th Texas calvery unit a large number of the 55th Alabama infantry where of Hispanic decent,Manigualts Battalion of South Carolina Artillery, 6th Missouri Infantry, the Chalmetle Regiment of Louisiana Infantry, and the Second Texas Mounted Rifles.Other Confederate unites which contained large numbers of Hispanics included Vigil’s Independent Companies – Cavalry, the Louisiana Zouaves 1st Florida Cavalry, the Spanish Legion of the European Brigade, the Spanish Guard (part of the Home Guard of Mobile, Alabama), and four independent New Mexico militia companies known by their commanders names (Gonzales, Martinez, Tafolla, and Perea). 1st Florida Cavalry, Confederate Army and Captain Joseph De La Garza Confederate Army from San Antonio. Mexican-Texans an estimated 2,550 fought in the ranks of the Confederacy..
    Yet the same people that oppose imigration reform or poke fun at illegal aliens are the same people our people fought and gave their life for.Are we not part of that foundation?? Where they just used then thrown back into social unwelcome??? Lets get real here screw the democrats screw the republicans we need to stick together and together form a real one nation under god with liberty and justice for all.Not to mention the thousands of Mexican American troops born out of illegal aliens who are currently putting their life on the line for ungratefull BARSTARDS who think that because they are lighter complected they are more American than the rest of us.

    These people feel threatened by anything that is new to them that is why nobody give a shit about what they think..BTW whites make up the biggest pecentage of people that collect welfare with 38% while hispanics only make up 17%.Do the math and you will see who is really milking our tax dollars but they think they are the only ones that get fooked over.

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  68. Welcome back Isabella..I knew you wouldnt be able to resist the Pedro comment..btw it was a joke no harm intended.Never say never you havent seen me yet..I am sure you would change your mind about your Mex/Ame thing..lol

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  69. YeYo: I thought it was hilarious.

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  70. @ 69.Isabella
    no decap on the police chief, about 30 ak-47 rounds i think is what the paper said. Thats a low number really now that I think of it, for this kind of deal anyway, but 30 rounds, killed him and his body guard.

    Gps coordinates in case you use google earth are
    31degrees 17′ 30.37″ N by 110degrees 56′ 44.04″ W Elev. 4156

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  71. Guys I know this is a repost, don’t jump my a** I am doing it for the Lady OK?

    Isabella
    This is from the Nuevo dia de Nogales Sonora

    La noche de ayer varios gatilleros ultimaron con ráfagas de metralleta al Sub-Director de Seguridad Pública Municipal, Adalberto Padilla Molina, que era acompañado por su escolta, el oficial Iván Sepúlveda Espinoza, cuando se trasladaban a bordo de una unidad, tipo vagoneta, sobre el periférico Colosio y el Boulevard Kennedy, así mismo un menor fue lesionado y se debate entre la vida y la muerte en el Seguro Social.

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  72. Well said Yeyo.

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  73. Thanks, I thought it was in reference to this:

    MONTERREY, Mexico — The decapitated body of the police chief of a northern Mexico town and the body of his brother were found inside the chief’s patrol truck Friday, authorities said. Hours earlier, gunmen killed a deputy police chief and his bodyguard in another part of Mexico’s north.

    The body of Heriberto Cerda, the police chief in Agualeguas, was found on the bed of a patrol pickup truck, which was left on a dirt road in the nearby town of General Trevino. His head was on his lap, said a spokesman for Nuevo Leon state prosecutors who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case.

    The body of the chief’s brother, Jesus Cerda, was found inside the truck, the official said. He didn’t say how Jesus Cerda was killed.

    Nuevo Leon state secretary general Javier Trevino told reporters that Cerda and his brother had been reported missing Thursday.

    The windshield and driver’s door of the patrol car had “C.D.G.,” an acronym for the Gulf drug cartel, written in blood, photos showed.

    The border state of Nuevo Leon, where Agualeguas and General Trevino are located, has seen an upsurge in violence that authorities say is the result of a turf battle between the Gulf cartel and the Zetas, the cartel’s former hit men.

    The slayings came a day after Mexican marines on patrol in the Nuevo Leon town of Cerralvo came under fire after ordering a convoy of gunmen traveling in six vehicles to stop. Six of the assailants were killed.

    Nearly 18,000 people have died in drug-related violence since President Felipe Calderon launched an assault on cartels after taking office in December 2006.

    In the northern state of Sonora, gunmen in a pickup truck fatally shot the deputy police chief and his bodyguard in the city of Nogales, which sits across the border from the Arizona city of the same name, authorities said Friday.

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  74. Yesterday I was at my local COSTCO buying a large bag of Purina dog chow for my loyal pet, Biscuit, the Wonder Dog and was in the checkout line when a woman behind me asked if I had a dog.

    What did she think I had, an elephant? So since I’m retired and have little to do, on impulse I told her that no, I didn’t have a dog, I was starting the Purina Diet again.
    I added that I probably shouldn’t, because I ended up in the hospital last time, but that I’d lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.

    I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and that the way that it works is to load your pants pockets with Purina nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry.

    The food is nutritionally complete so it works well and I was going to try it again. (I have to mention here that practically everyone in line was now enthralled with my story.)

    Horrified, she asked if I ended up in intensive care because the
    dog food poisoned me.

    I told her no, I stepped off a curb to sniff an Irish Setter’s ass and a car hit us both.

    I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard.

    Costco won’t let me shop there anymore.

    It’s Sunday lighten up you guys

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  75. @ Isabella

    last paragraph of your post was but that was it.

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  76. Sacc, i am the only one who thinks that way in this site because i am an illegal alien, and that’s what we illegals do, enter the u.s illegally, i mean, somebody’s gotta do it.

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  77. Sacc: You’re such a Neanderthal. Is anyone willing to waste their time in order to give Sacc “The Neanderthal” a lesson in Immigration, if so, please begin around the 17th and 18th centuries.

    As to, getting an idea of, “what kind of people you are and you’re views about this issue.” Lets see, where shall I begin?

    I am a full time student and I also work full time for an attorney and I pay my taxes (unlike, some fook ups who don’t and are now being hounded by the IRS), my stance on immigration is that during this administration there should be immigration reform. After all, the president did promise to do something about that, and thus, I voted for him. And I made my entire family vote for him. Thanks to me we vote and we do it often.

    I believe that everyone that’s here “illegally,” should stay here and should become a U.S. citizens, after all, it’s costing the United States government more to separate families and deport people than it is to keep them here and make everyone pay taxes. If everyone was able to contribute we wouldn’t be in the economic rut that we’re in right now. And I can say that, because I live in the Medicare fraud capital of the nation, all of these pigs from Cuba thought it was funny to pump the government for money. Not so funny now, when they have to do time in federal prisons. And it’s even less funny, when the president just signed the Healthcare Reform bill.

    For the record, Hispanics have a voice, I don’t have children yet, but I’m grooming my nieces and nephews to have an opinion about everything and to support their views (which somehow happens to be my views as well). Basically, we are multiplying , we’re going to educate ourselves even if public schools around the country are pathetic. Slowly but surely we will take over. So you’re racist and bigot comments can do nothing to change anything at this point.

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  78. Sacc the fact that you’re pathetic doesn’t bother me either. As to stealing taxpayers hard earned money, don’t make me laugh. Tackle whatever you want, have at it. You’re wasting your time and you know it.

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  79. Why do I get the feeling that Sacc is the Fat Bastard that was posting mindless comments earlier today?

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  80. @nadien: That was really, really, really, f-ing funny. My wife gets horribly upset when I do that, but sometimes…. It just happens…. Comedic Gold!

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  81. @ Sacc
    I won’t call you names, but I will tell you this, if you could open you mind to learn a little instead of getting riled up you might learn something, yes some people are fooking with you here. And for the tone of your comments, I would like to be one of them, but that does nothing to educate you in things I am sure you think you understand but don’t. Now without insult, racial slurs or any other bullshit, can we debate some things? The idea of communication is exactly that communication. I do not you expect you to swing to my veiws, I expect for you to respecfully listen to my point of veiw and make an effort to understand, in return I will do the same for you. So there ya go ball is in your court. Are you game to man up and have a discussion?

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  82. More violence on this side of the border. The Krentz’ s have had their ranch land torn up by illegals over the years and now this. It’s a shame, they’re nice people. I’ll bet it wasn’t someone looking for work:

    DOUGLAS, AZ — The Cochise County Sheriff’s Office is investigating the shooting death of a southern Arizona rancher.
    Sheriff’s spokeswoman Carol Capas identified the man as 58-year-old Robert Krentz.
    His body was found before midnight Saturday on his ranch about 35 miles northeast of Douglas.
    As part of a campaign news release talking about immigration, the office of Senate candidate JD Hayworth said Krentz was found shot to death after calling into his brother that he was giving aid to an apparent undocumented immigrant he found at one of his cattle watering holes.

    No other details have been released, but Capas said the investigation is continuing.

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  83. @sacc
    Laying the blame soley on Mexicans who break in shows how ignorant you are.Everybody is Mexican to you wheter they come from Central America or South America.You really need to educate yourself and let go of those god awfull thoughts you have in your mind.

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  84. a hitchhicker told me that the big dogs in Los Pinos are contemplating the possible involvement of American citizens, and no drug cartel members, in the killing of the three American consulate employees in Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, as part of a campaign to draw attention from the U.S government to that side of the Mexican border

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  85. C1b4udie: Seriously your name sounds like one of those screen names on To Catch a Predator. All kidding aside, I shall humor you, I’ll be Atticus Finch and you’ll be what you are: the average American. Nothing great, nothing significant, just average.

    According to the excerpt of the article you posted, the investigation is still ongoing, therefore, there are no law enforcement agencies that have identified any possible suspects. I’m not sure that I may properly estimate Mr. Krentz’s character, given the lack of information provided, he may or may not have provided work to individuals who needed it. If he did and he honored each transaction and paid for the labor done, then I don’t see why anyone would vandalize his property, let alone kill him. If he was known to provide work for men who needed the money, that would be a possible reason why someone (radical bigot) who opposes immigration reform would target him and perhaps vandalize his ranch and even shoot him. If his brother knew, then I’m sure others in his community knew of his aid to those who don’t have proper documentation. Could it have been some racist radical that shot him, it’s certainly possible.

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  86. According to Tom Tancredo (former US House Rep. from Colorado) who was at the ranch today to meet with the Krentz’s and other ranchers in the area about border issues, the Cochise County Sherrifs office found tracks at the scene. He said a suspect fled into Mexico. Just sharing what I read.

    http://twitter.com/ttancredo

    http://rmf.blogtownhall.com/

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  87. C1b4udie: In a court of law that is called HEARSAY. I’m just sharing what I know.

    The tracks at the scene were probably from a car/truck, did the authorities follow the tracks all the way to Mexico?

    Yeah, I didn’t think so.

    Just so you know, you’re not going to get by that well with your second grade education. I think you should stay in the bubble you’re in, you’ll be safe there.

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  88. “If he was known to provide work for men who needed the money, that would be a possible reason why someone (radical bigot) who opposes immigration reform would target him and perhaps vandalize his ranch and even shoot him”

    Isabella, if what you say were true, there would be a lot more murders in southern AZ. and elsewhere around the country. I personally have never seen a news story about “radical bigots” targeting people that have employed illegal immigrants. Not saying it hasn’t happened. Pro-lifers and abortion doctors, yes. Here’s some info on the Krentz’s:

    http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/003355.html

    PS: I’m anything but the “average American”.

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  89. I have noticed many people on blogs accusing illegals and traffickers without any info from law enforcement.

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  90. “….the Cochise County Sherrifs office found tracks at the scene. He said a suspect fled into Mexico.”..so, if the tracks lead to Mexico, the murderer must be a Mexican, i guess that all the tracks found on the border leading to the U.S must be from Americans fleeing to the U.S, lol!!…oh mercy!!

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  91. C1b4udie: Oh yes, Cowboy, I’m sure you’re everything you think you are and much more. Be a good boy, read a good book and call it a night, will you?

    As for Mr. Krentz, I’m very sorry for his untimely death. After all, death is undeniable and inalterable.

    Would you like for me to recommend you any good books to read? I’ll be more than glad to… I’m a strong advocate for reading.

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  92. With my 2nd grade edu., I’m kinda only into works by Geisel at this point.

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  93. C1b4udie: Hey, I reset that! I would never refer to Dr. Seuss in a sarcastic or offensive manner! My 2-year-old niece is a huge fan of Dr. Seuss.

    It seems as though my below-the-belt insults may have bothered you more than I thought they would. I’m sorry about that – I didn’t mean to be cruel.

    What I meant to say was that you should always question everything, you can’t read something and believe it simply because everyone else does. Question everything, always, no matter what it is. In my realm, only facts and evidence survive. Theories and speculation don’t do that well, in fact, they sink quickly.

    Buona notte.

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  94. I hope you were referring to the brilliant Theodor Seuss Geisel.

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  95. @ Vincent Hannah

    i dont like dexter, doesnt catch my attention but i am loving Breaking Bad

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  96. 99

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  97. vincent hanna…who?? 100 sorry just had to do that..

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  98. I’ve never had to cheat to get 100…

    Dexter sucks man, just wanted to know if I wasn’t the only one that thought that way.

    Season 3 of Breaking Bad started last week. Cartel boys are hunting Heisenberg…like I’m gonna hunt YeYo for taking 100 from me.

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  99. This morning I got on Mikey’s site here and there were about 17 comments. Now there is more than 100…who the fook is Isabella, and why hasn’t Vincent Hanna laid down the law on this one?

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  100. @ C1b4udie

    What exactly might I ask it that we should see before we die might I ask? Just curious. Also curious, are you saying that someone from Mexico did it? Cause it sort of sounds like thats what your saying. But I don’t wanna put words in your mouth so I thought I would ask.

    @ Isabella

    I know others got you fired up earlier, That aside, it looks like this guy is at least trying to be civil. Give him that much credit. The only line in all of his posts where he is not quoting someone else is. “The Krentz’ s have had their ranch land torn up by illegals over the years and now this. It’s a shame, they’re nice people. I’ll bet it wasn’t someone looking for work:”

    I have a hard time understanding how someone on foot tears up anything, but I do know there are problems with trash, cut wires, discarded black clothing and things of that nature. Thats common to this part of the world. Around ranches the words torn up have alot of different meanings. As far as it being a shame, well it is a shame when somebody passes, doesn’t matter they are a rancher, illegal, resident alien or anybody else (with a few exceptions. But nothing related to this.) As far as it not being someone looking for work, well it probably wasn’t. I am not saying his intent was to inflame or not to inflame but so I think we have been a little bit harsh maybe.

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  101. no one seems to know anything about the rancher killed in douglas past d hill?

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  102. @ Isabella

    sorry, posted my last one without looking.

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  103. everyone on this web site is a dopper,illegal ,thug lover,convict ,cbp,dea ,lawyer or militia member?

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  104. Perhaps my first post was worded poorly. I never said I believed it was anyone or anything. However, because I know the Krentz family and other ranchers in SE AZ, and have seen first hand what damage illegal immigrants can do when they use a certain trail over and over and over, and the threats human and substance traffickers make to the ranchers and anyone else who would potentially impede their operations, I as most people in the area would first imagine that an event such as this was somehow related to those threats. When I read Tancredo’s Twitter page that tracks were found and that LE was following someone back towards Mexico, I chuckled because obviously there wasn’t a 15 mile long trail of popcorn for them to follow.

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  105. It was a smart-ass remark about the person looking for work.

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  106. http://www.svherald.com/content/news/2010/03/28/breaking-news-rancher-shot-death-property-north-douglas
    The Cochise County Sheriff’s Office is releasing little information in the shooting death of a 58-year-old man in a rural area 35 miles north of Douglas near Apache.

    According to the Sheriff’s Office public information officer Carol Capas, deputies are investigating the shooting death of Robert Krentz, who died of gunshot wounds Saturday. She had no additional information available Sunday, but said more will be made known in coming days.

    U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, in a news release, decried the killing of a Cochise County cattle rancher, calling it a horrible tragedy that deserves a swift and strong response.

    “The cold-blooded killing of an Arizona rancher is a sad and sobering reminder of the threats to public safety that exist in our border communities,” Giffords said. “It has not yet been determined who committed this atrocity or why, but I know that federal and local authorities are mobilizing every possible resource to locate and apprehend the assailant.”

    Capas would not confirm or deny that illegal immigrants were involved in the shooting.

    “If, as suspected, this tragedy was connected to smugglers or drug cartels, the federal government must respond appropriately,” said Giffords, whose 8th Congressional District includes 114 miles of international border. “All options should be on the table, including sending more Border Patrol agents to the area and deploying the National Guard.”

    Krentz was part of a ranching family that stretches back more than a century to Arizona’s territorial days. He has served as president of the Cochise-Graham Cattelgrowers Association and, one year ago today, the Krentz Ranch and family were inducted into the Arizona Farming and Ranching Hall of Fame.

    “My heartfelt condolences go out to the Krentz family and friends as they deal with this senseless and brutal act,” said Giffords. “I can’t begin to imagine losing a loved one in such a tragic way. Rob Krentz was a pillar of the Cochise County ranching community. He will be greatly missed.”

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  107. BTW Isabella, To Kill A Mockingbird is my absolute favorite book and movie. TCM showed it a few weeks ago which led me to read it again. Also, I married someone from Agua Prieta, Sonora. If I blamed everything on illegals I would have some bigger issues with a whole lot of people over there.

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  108. everyone on this web site is a dopper,illegal ,thug lover,convict ,cbp,dea ,lawyer or militia member?

    so which of the following are you Quate?

    Vincent, YeYo is taking your shine… lol

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  109. @To the illegal haters.

    @el quate,,,hers is another convict opinion

    I doesn’t matter how much energy is put into speaking out against illegals, policy will not change. I read an incredible book 20 years ago that enlightened me about a lot of things. It was one of those books wtitten ahead of its time, “The Rich Get Richer, The Poor Get Prison.” One powerful point it made was that America wants crime, needs crime and thrives on crime and I “know” this to be true. To be brief, there are far to many people who rely on criminals for employment to ever try to change anything related to crime. This is why laws were enhanced to lock up crack dealers but not so much for other drugs. This is why cases were enhanced if drug crimes were commited near schools and why political platforms for stiffer penalties for drugs got so popular and in some places 20 years later still are. Americans need to be able to go home from work and watch how bad crime is getting so that they can set their 38 beside them and feel safe. They want to hear about the little lady getting her purse stolen walking home from the grocery store. They have to feel that anger when they hear about the 19 year old girl getting raped leaving the bar. And then they have to redicule her for being there.

    George Bush opened the new so called policy on illegals. It was done basically so that minimum wage would not have to be increased. You see, in case you haven’t figured this out, it does not matter what the majority wants in the US. What matters is what benefits the wealthy. George was the perfect flunky for a group of wealthy oil billionaires that enjoyed four dollar a gallon gas prices while the bitch was in office. You see, it was not to give Mexican national a opportunity, it was to exploit them. And if you think for one minute these corrupt basturds would allow this population to access US benefits, you are more simple than I thought. They will be thrown to the side just as they are throwing the middle class to the side as we speak.

    I love latinas. Don’t be haters.

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  110. opps, misspell
    @el quate…here is another convicts opinion
    and ther is no shame in my game about that brother. You got a problem with that?

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  111. @ YeYo: Did you follow the “Family Secrets” trial in 2007? What’s left of the Outfit has been laying real low since then. Outfit members were prohibited from narcotics dealing. If this O’Connor guy is connected, and he doesn’t get whacked, then that shows how decimated the Chicago mob really is.

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  112. I’d like to tryout for “thug”. Where do I apply?

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  113. My most heartfelt condolences to the Krentz family.

    While the investigation is continuing I think it is imprudent to assume that this was an “Illegal/Cartel” killing. I’ve seen enough white boys on Meth down there (and everywhere else, I guess), to know that there is at least a third suspect, and maybe even a fourth.

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  114. @ C1b4udie

    Tensions are a little high everywhere. Your wording was kinda open ended. This is about speaking out and have a place to speak your mind I think. The good part is people can have different opinions and still be respectful of each other, and sometimes people need to agree to disagree. I understand some from both sides of the fence for they’re different reasons. I think the us goverment is playing us all for the fool. While we spend our angry with each other over a problem they refuse to fix. It’s classic manipulation, play both ends against the middle and sad to say it is working very well, I have been through the visa/imigration process with someone, and I can say I fully understand why some come illegally. On the other hand I have seen issues that can be veiwed as being caused by ilegal imigration. But before laws and regulation the factor of humanity should come first, if we could find a way for humanity to come 1st the rest would fall into line. Unfortunatley I don’t know if we will see humanity, and a solution in our lifetime. I was at one point in time, what I would call fairly racist. However there came a point when I realized that the things I believed, the preconcieved ideas I had, where because of what I had been told by others (who had no idea what the hell they were talking about.) . Now it’s different. I understand what it’s like on both sides of the line, I have lived on both sides. And not in the the tourist traps, but with real people. I have met people that I respect greatly for they’re patience and the respect that they have given me.

    @ everyone

    The person or persons who killed Mr. Krentz is an individual, who should absolutley held responsible for his or her actions. It’s important to remember that, That persons race, legal status, religion, etc., those things are not what commited the act. That individual made that choice.

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  115. christian soldier gathering info for the apocalypse

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  116. C1b4udie: No need to explain yourself. We’re good. By the way you have excellent taste in women.

    Nadien: No worries. And for the record, you’re a much better person than I am. I always enjoy your input, it’s definitely an excellent read everytime.

    T_R_C: You’re perspective is excellent, it made me think up a storm. Thank you.

    Drift: You’re hilarious.

    Rex: I agree.

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  117. In all respect Isabella, some drugs are ok to say yes to, like Lithium. Try it.

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  118. Carlos: Yeah, I don’t think so, I’ll stick to green tea, spinach and blueberries.

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  119. @ Tantos
    They are in complete shambles yet they are still around nothing like the movies any more.There is several crews now operating mostly in the suburbs the heads of the mew outfit are the Difronzo brothers leading the pack.They are extremely politicaly connected thew out the suburbs and the city of chicago mostly in the suburbs where they run porn shops,orgie houses,video gambiling machines.As far as drugs go the Difronzo fam might not be directly involved but alot of the crews do what they got to do to make money and use their political connections to operate as smooth as possible.They aint wacking nobody any more I can tell you that because after all the blood in the 80s the heat has kept comming back to bite them in the azz..There is the Rush st,Grand ave,26th st,chinatown,Elmwood park,Melrose Park,Cicero crew also the far south side crew (indiana crew).Each crew it very tight with only about 10 members at the most and concentrate on rackets while some have made strong alliances with some of the older mexican drug barons in the city.They use some of the street gangs to do their dirty work.

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  120. Check this out

    http://www.proceso.com.mx/rv/modHome/detalleExclusiva/77859

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  121. @Vincent
    Get in line buddy.

    @El Quate
    Figures. Gather this.

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