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		<title>By: wtf</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2010/03/guilty-or-innocent-how-do-we-know/comment-page-1/#comment-13386</link>
		<dc:creator>wtf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this post reminded me of this song...it always brings a tear to my eye.

Song:
http://lair2000.net/fairy_Lyrics/songs/Ten_Killer_Fairies.html

Lyrics:
Ten Killer Fairies 
She took his hand 
Said apologies aren&#039;t necessary 
You&#039;ve been a faithful man 
Love and Honor are your legacy 

Like to fix my hair 
And put on my pretty Sunday dress 
Cook you breakfast 
It&#039;s a shame to leave the house a mess 

And the baby&#039;s crying 
And I push his face into my breast…and 
Sing to him softly 
This is for the best 
But it&#039;s hard to face the older children 
They know enough to understand 
They soon will be delivered 
Into Jesus&#039; waiting hands 

And the ten killer fairies 
Won&#039;t pull us apart 
And I will hold you here forever 
Here in my sacred heart 

And if the neighbors would just stop screaming 
And accept this as their fate 
The comforts in the dreaming 
Of the paradise that waits 
So let&#039;s gather up the family 
And let&#039;s cover up their eyes 
This is only temporary 
And no need to say goodbye 
And the ten killer fairies 
Won&#039;t pull us apart 
And I will hold you here forever baby 
Here in my sacred heart 

Well out here in the courtyard 
The reflection of the sun 
Off emotionless sunglasses 
And the barrel of the gun 

And I can hear the people laughing 
Down at the carnival 
And I wonder if they&#039;ll remember 
How we lined against this wall 
With dignity like soldiers 
And forgiveness like the saints 
Giving comfort to our children 
With a silence like the martyrs and examples we&#039;ve been made 

And the ten killer fairies 
Won&#039;t pull us apart 
And I will hold you here 
Here in my sacred heart 

And our father who art in Heaven 
Hallowed by thy name 
Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done 
Today…today 

Take my hand now baby 
Let&#039;s look out to the sea 
To the tuna boats and dolphins 
Let&#039;s taste the ocean breeze 
And I will not stop weeping 
I promised I&#039;d be strong 
Just tell me that you love me 
Hold me in your arms 
And it&#039;s funny I remember 
When I was a little girl 
How easy came the laughter 
At the wonders of the world 
And how one day I would marry 
With a family of my own 
But the time has come now baby 
To take my family home 

And the ten killer fairies 
Won&#039;t pull us apart 
And I will hold you here forever darling 
Here in my sacred heart 

-Jerry Joseph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this post reminded me of this song&#8230;it always brings a tear to my eye.</p>
<p>Song:<br />
<a href="http://lair2000.net/fairy_Lyrics/songs/Ten_Killer_Fairies.html" rel="nofollow">http://lair2000.net/fairy_Lyrics/songs/Ten_Killer_Fairies.html</a></p>
<p>Lyrics:<br />
Ten Killer Fairies<br />
She took his hand<br />
Said apologies aren&#8217;t necessary<br />
You&#8217;ve been a faithful man<br />
Love and Honor are your legacy </p>
<p>Like to fix my hair<br />
And put on my pretty Sunday dress<br />
Cook you breakfast<br />
It&#8217;s a shame to leave the house a mess </p>
<p>And the baby&#8217;s crying<br />
And I push his face into my breast…and<br />
Sing to him softly<br />
This is for the best<br />
But it&#8217;s hard to face the older children<br />
They know enough to understand<br />
They soon will be delivered<br />
Into Jesus&#8217; waiting hands </p>
<p>And the ten killer fairies<br />
Won&#8217;t pull us apart<br />
And I will hold you here forever<br />
Here in my sacred heart </p>
<p>And if the neighbors would just stop screaming<br />
And accept this as their fate<br />
The comforts in the dreaming<br />
Of the paradise that waits<br />
So let&#8217;s gather up the family<br />
And let&#8217;s cover up their eyes<br />
This is only temporary<br />
And no need to say goodbye<br />
And the ten killer fairies<br />
Won&#8217;t pull us apart<br />
And I will hold you here forever baby<br />
Here in my sacred heart </p>
<p>Well out here in the courtyard<br />
The reflection of the sun<br />
Off emotionless sunglasses<br />
And the barrel of the gun </p>
<p>And I can hear the people laughing<br />
Down at the carnival<br />
And I wonder if they&#8217;ll remember<br />
How we lined against this wall<br />
With dignity like soldiers<br />
And forgiveness like the saints<br />
Giving comfort to our children<br />
With a silence like the martyrs and examples we&#8217;ve been made </p>
<p>And the ten killer fairies<br />
Won&#8217;t pull us apart<br />
And I will hold you here<br />
Here in my sacred heart </p>
<p>And our father who art in Heaven<br />
Hallowed by thy name<br />
Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done<br />
Today…today </p>
<p>Take my hand now baby<br />
Let&#8217;s look out to the sea<br />
To the tuna boats and dolphins<br />
Let&#8217;s taste the ocean breeze<br />
And I will not stop weeping<br />
I promised I&#8217;d be strong<br />
Just tell me that you love me<br />
Hold me in your arms<br />
And it&#8217;s funny I remember<br />
When I was a little girl<br />
How easy came the laughter<br />
At the wonders of the world<br />
And how one day I would marry<br />
With a family of my own<br />
But the time has come now baby<br />
To take my family home </p>
<p>And the ten killer fairies<br />
Won&#8217;t pull us apart<br />
And I will hold you here forever darling<br />
Here in my sacred heart </p>
<p>-Jerry Joseph</p>
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		<title>By: LAW ABIDING CITIZEN</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2010/03/guilty-or-innocent-how-do-we-know/comment-page-1/#comment-13196</link>
		<dc:creator>LAW ABIDING CITIZEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im with you michel.... everyday someone gets popped...mas nunca se sabe porke....the press n police just knows they got picked up at this certain spot, they know the color of the vehicle, how many armed men, type of weaponry, what the individuals were doing before the levanton but never ever y? its ridiculous... luego los familiares lloran ke ellos nada ke ver.... ni madres la voladora no les llega por santos.....except for the occasional innocent bystander....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im with you michel&#8230;. everyday someone gets popped&#8230;mas nunca se sabe porke&#8230;.the press n police just knows they got picked up at this certain spot, they know the color of the vehicle, how many armed men, type of weaponry, what the individuals were doing before the levanton but never ever y? its ridiculous&#8230; luego los familiares lloran ke ellos nada ke ver&#8230;. ni madres la voladora no les llega por santos&#8230;..except for the occasional innocent bystander&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tu Padre</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2010/03/guilty-or-innocent-how-do-we-know/comment-page-1/#comment-13194</link>
		<dc:creator>Tu Padre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am from Culiacan and grew up in southcentral LA.  You can say I lived in 2 worlds.  I look at the situation in mexico and I equate this to the blood and crips explosions in the 90&#039;s when crack hit the sceen.  The biggest problem in Mexico is not the Coca or the Mota its the Meth.  People are fighting for the drug corners not so much as the routes to the borders.  The &quot;Foco&quot; epidemic is what is causing your violence that is why you have street gangs doing the killings and getting massacared.  Yes I said it &quot;STREET GANGS&quot; because that is what most of them are.  A bunch of missguided kids with few options.  The victims keep getting younger and younger like in Los Angeles you had 14 and 15 year olds doing all the killings.

@ ROFL  I am just saying.  If i have a neighbor or a cousin that is a Cholo...  and i decide to hang out with him, chances are that if he is a target of a drive by shooting i am exposing myself to it.  No one deseves to die especialy if i havent joined the gang yet.  But if you choose to hang out with them you are asking for problems.  The difference is that Traffikers arnt looked at as skumm and they have good music, boose, and women so people are more likely to want to hang out with them.  You are asking for problems....  You know better but man that banda is rocking.....and the barbacoa smells good.......The pacifico is ice cold.......and those chicks are hot.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am from Culiacan and grew up in southcentral LA.  You can say I lived in 2 worlds.  I look at the situation in mexico and I equate this to the blood and crips explosions in the 90&#8242;s when crack hit the sceen.  The biggest problem in Mexico is not the Coca or the Mota its the Meth.  People are fighting for the drug corners not so much as the routes to the borders.  The &#8220;Foco&#8221; epidemic is what is causing your violence that is why you have street gangs doing the killings and getting massacared.  Yes I said it &#8220;STREET GANGS&#8221; because that is what most of them are.  A bunch of missguided kids with few options.  The victims keep getting younger and younger like in Los Angeles you had 14 and 15 year olds doing all the killings.</p>
<p>@ ROFL  I am just saying.  If i have a neighbor or a cousin that is a Cholo&#8230;  and i decide to hang out with him, chances are that if he is a target of a drive by shooting i am exposing myself to it.  No one deseves to die especialy if i havent joined the gang yet.  But if you choose to hang out with them you are asking for problems.  The difference is that Traffikers arnt looked at as skumm and they have good music, boose, and women so people are more likely to want to hang out with them.  You are asking for problems&#8230;.  You know better but man that banda is rocking&#8230;..and the barbacoa smells good&#8230;&#8230;.The pacifico is ice cold&#8230;&#8230;.and those chicks are hot&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: vinotinto</title>
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		<dc:creator>vinotinto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well put TRC, the innocent victims abound</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well put TRC, the innocent victims abound</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2010/03/guilty-or-innocent-how-do-we-know/comment-page-1/#comment-13192</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we look for connections for every person killed in Mexico, chances are they are related or know of some bad hombre. So based on &#039;connected&#039; then all of Mexico is vulnerable. But I am with ROFL, I have had contracts on my family , and they were toddlers , only guilty of being related to some jerk that couldnt be found. Are they connected????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we look for connections for every person killed in Mexico, chances are they are related or know of some bad hombre. So based on &#8216;connected&#8217; then all of Mexico is vulnerable. But I am with ROFL, I have had contracts on my family , and they were toddlers , only guilty of being related to some jerk that couldnt be found. Are they connected????</p>
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		<title>By: Tantos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tantos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Mexico is not Canada.  Canada is a modern, civilized, industrialized democracy and has been a good neighbor to the U.S.  Canadians do grow weed for U.S. consumption, but the Canadien government isn&#039;t in bed with the traffickers.  Not a good comparison.

Michel, who will be left to ask the hard questions in Mexico?  The reporters are dropping like flies.  How many of the 60 Mexican reporters murdered since 2000 were &quot;collateral killings?&quot;  Are you involved &quot;peripherally&quot; simply because you ask questions about organized crime?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Mexico is not Canada.  Canada is a modern, civilized, industrialized democracy and has been a good neighbor to the U.S.  Canadians do grow weed for U.S. consumption, but the Canadien government isn&#8217;t in bed with the traffickers.  Not a good comparison.</p>
<p>Michel, who will be left to ask the hard questions in Mexico?  The reporters are dropping like flies.  How many of the 60 Mexican reporters murdered since 2000 were &#8220;collateral killings?&#8221;  Are you involved &#8220;peripherally&#8221; simply because you ask questions about organized crime?</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2010/03/guilty-or-innocent-how-do-we-know/comment-page-1/#comment-13189</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mexicans are the Palistinians of the new world.
No one cares about us. In the USofA most of my friends
believe we deserve this drug war and its unrestrained violence.
If we were Canadian it might be a diffrent story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mexicans are the Palistinians of the new world.<br />
No one cares about us. In the USofA most of my friends<br />
believe we deserve this drug war and its unrestrained violence.<br />
If we were Canadian it might be a diffrent story.</p>
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		<title>By: tanaka san</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2010/03/guilty-or-innocent-how-do-we-know/comment-page-1/#comment-13188</link>
		<dc:creator>tanaka san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MIENTRAS HAIGA CONSUMIDORES Y VENDEDORES ILEGALES DE ARMAS ESTO NO PARA,PARA USA ES UN NEGOCIO REDONDO,PLAN MERIDA SOLO VA A DESATAR MAS VIOLENCIA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MIENTRAS HAIGA CONSUMIDORES Y VENDEDORES ILEGALES DE ARMAS ESTO NO PARA,PARA USA ES UN NEGOCIO REDONDO,PLAN MERIDA SOLO VA A DESATAR MAS VIOLENCIA</p>
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		<title>By: rofl</title>
		<link>http://borderreporter.com/2010/03/guilty-or-innocent-how-do-we-know/comment-page-1/#comment-13186</link>
		<dc:creator>rofl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its just funny this article, because it assumes its okay if you are killed, because you try make some money an illegal way by trafficking.  Not every trafficker is a killer. Some, are hard workers, even if its hard for people to believe. Let the killing continue i guess, its only &quot;guilty&quot; people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its just funny this article, because it assumes its okay if you are killed, because you try make some money an illegal way by trafficking.  Not every trafficker is a killer. Some, are hard workers, even if its hard for people to believe. Let the killing continue i guess, its only &#8220;guilty&#8221; people.</p>
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		<title>By: rofl</title>
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		<dc:creator>rofl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nadien..lol..i heard that joke before, but he was a raton...and the elephant would say..&quot;soy ratoncito soy ratoncito!!!&quot; jajajaj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nadien..lol..i heard that joke before, but he was a raton&#8230;and the elephant would say..&#8221;soy ratoncito soy ratoncito!!!&#8221; jajajaj</p>
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