Not One But Two Juárez Arrests?
Mar 30th, 2010 | By Michel Marizco | Category: General News, Politics
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THE BORDER REPORT
Looks like the media jumped to conclusions yesterday when it was announced an Azteca leader had been arrested in connection with the U.S. Consulate killings in early March. But what’s interesting is La Polaka gives a highly detailed account of the man’s involvement in the murders and in fact, posted the Attorney General’s charges against the guy tying him to the murders. Did someone decide to change their mind?
Yesterday, the Chihuahua State Police said it had arrested Ricardo Valles de la Rosa, a 45-year-old leader of the Aztecas. They said he was arrested in connection with an earlier murder from last October. Then, Enrique Torres, spokesman for Operation Chihuahua, told the Díario de Juárez:
Effectively, there is the detention of a person related with the case of the Consulate, but we are waiting for a communique to reveal the parameters of the case. For the moment I can only confirm that there has been one detention in the event.
Well, that was yesterday. Citing Díario, the media went after the story whole-heartedly. Everyone from CNN to The Times reported that Valles was the probable killer.
Now, The El Paso Times reports today, it wasn’t Valles. But adding to the confusion is this very precise accounting from La Polaka. The news Web site reports Valles admitted to the prosecutor’s office that he was given orders to follow the white vehicles carrying Lesley Enriquez, her husband Arthur Redelfs and, in the separate SUV, Alberto Salcido. The PGR claimed Valles admitted to this. Now, they’re not saying he was the triggerman; they’re claiming he was ran recon on the vehicles. He claimed he heard the gunshots. But who did he run recon on?
My sense is that the Mexicans may have tried to make Valles seem more important than what he turned out to be. He may be a good lead on the investigation, but he wasn’t the triggerman, nor was he the intellectual author of the hits. We shall see what happens next.
Whoever he is, 1 will get you 10 he will be confessing soon! Unless he gets some kind of protection from Mexican interrogation by the US investigators. If not, guilty or not, he cops out.
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lies, all but lies, the fooking government is sinked up to the neck in this shit, and i’m not talking about the Mexican government, this was an inside job from the gringos, but since the Mexican authorities are nothing but puppets, they don’t care about a scape goat here and there, no valen pa pura verga estos culeros.
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If I’m right this guy goes way back to the whole Bruno Jordan thing, this guy disappeared when I was coming up fighting with the frooties as we called the fatherless coming up as kids and this guy if I’m correct was loaded back in the days before he went away on his prison term. I get a trip out of how the media calls them the “notorious fatherless gang” makes me wonder what they’ll say about my people I came up with.
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I really don’t care about the killings or the drugs on the streets. My real concern is paying huge property taxes ($5500 per year) so that the anchor babies can get free education and the narcs that get shot-up in Juarez get free health-care at the University Medical Center (formerly Thomason Hospital) in El Chuco.
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@ El Flaco,
Interesting. Do you have any knowledge on how many shooting victims were treated at UMC last year?
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Ilegal: But don’t you think it would have been reasonable to just arrest them and charge them if they were involved in anything sketchy? Granted, I do understand that anything is possible at this point. Anything. And if they decided it was best to take them out, then it would have been an easy cover, because the media and law enforcement along the border and in Mexico would easily blame it on the ongoing violence in Ciudad Juarez. And they have actually blamed it on the violence between the drug cartels.
And more importantly, culeros means ass-wholes, right?
T_R_C: I totally agree and I think it’s happening here in the U.S. too, they get the guy(s) in the street in order to build up their cases and eventually extradite the cartel members in Mexico. And according to a documentary I watched, Mexican prisons are no joke. The shanks there are machetes.
Drift: Do you know if he did time in the U.S. or in Mexico?
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En Magdalena: Irrumpen sicarios en comandancia
Martes, 30 de Marzo de 2010 08:22
Escrito por César de la Luz
MAGDALENA DE KINO, Son.- Un grupo del crimen organizado, ingresó a las instalaciones de la base local de la Policía Estatal Investigadora y de Agencia del Ministerio Público del Fuero Común donde amarró amenazó, golpeó y desarmó al personal de la corporación, retirándose tranquilamente, no sin antes lanzar la advertencia de que no los molestaran en sus actividades ilícitas.
No obstante que dicha comandancia está situada en el centro de Magdalena, los PEI no recibieron apoyo de la Policía Municipal, fuerzas federales ni del Ejército.
De acuerdo al comunicado de la PEI, los hechos ocurrieron poco antes de las 13:00 horas del lunes, cuando el grupo integrado por alrededor de 25 hombres, todos armados, llegó hasta el lugar a bordo de cuatro vehículos, para sorprender al personal de la Procuraduría General de Justicia del Estado, para amedrentarlos. — Diario del Yaqui
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Isabella
im not to sure where he did his time, i was only 14 around that time doing my desmadre with the whole gang thing
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Flaco
if im correct it’s only been like 5-7 people that have been treated at Thomason unless there where others that went unreported with non life threating wounds
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Thanks Drift, I’ll see what I can dig up. By the way the video you posted yesterday was hilarious!
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@illegal: How come you think this was a US inside job? were the consulate employees doing dirty? or do you think this was the way they get US authorities to “officially” start working cases in juarez? All interesting by the way.
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the U.S government can do worst things to start working in cases, that’s historic.
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I agree that after 9/11 the Bush administration kinda did what it wanted. This week, In San Fancisco, there’s a federal case where the judge sided with the plantiffs and affirmed that government investigators “illegally wiretapped the phone conversations of an Islamic charity and their lawyers without a search warrant.” It was pretty evident that the Justice Department, during the Bush administration, allowed their investigators to tap this particular charity organization simply because they were Islamic, they didn’t need a warrant, but they probably wouldn’t have obtained one given the circumstances and lack of probable cause. Their suspicion seemed to be based on the fact that these people were Islamic and the court decided that is freaking illegal.
According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection there is a border search exception, searches can be done at random, but stop at strip and body cavity searches, unless the there is reasonable suspicion to search an individual. So I guess it depends on discretion alone.
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God damn Patriot Act!!
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!NarcoMex!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/03/31/fiorenarco.DTL
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What’s the matter smartass, you don’t know any Shakespere?
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Drift: I know! So much for the right to privacy and the U.S. constitution.
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!narcomex! wow nice attempt, to funny to present the real message though, I found myself laughing at the format, but the real situation is far from funny.
According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection there is a border search exception, searches can be done at random, but stop at strip and body cavity searches, unless the there is reasonable suspicion to search an individual. So I guess it depends on discretion alone.
Isabella could you please give us the Federal goverments definition of reasonable suspicion?
A CBP agent told me they are allowed whatever they want within 25 miles of the border, in regards to searches. They can break down your door, cut the lock off a gate, etc. When I replied that that was about as unamerican as anything I had ever heard, He told me if I did’t like it, I should move. They have way more power on pretext than any agency should have.
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Dingnam
You LACED CURTAIN MOTHER fookER!!!
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25 miles is a lot of ground to cover if for instance the city you live in is right on the border, i think they should just contact the local PD or Sheriffs office so they can search and in maybe other areas as in to where there are no cities and just little towns then 25 miles does seem ok to me then. just my opinion
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I’m tired from fuc“ing your wife.
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Nadien: I’ll email three criminal defense attorneys I know about that what the CBP agent told you, so I can get their input. Although all of them are from Miami, Florida, all three are extremely well versed in federal cases, so they would have excellent input about that, at least much more so than I would.
I’ll make sure to get that information for you, if anything, I’ll at least research case law.
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@ Nadien,
Unless it’s at a checkpoint, a Border Patrol agent still needs to have probable cause – or your consent – to search your vehicle. Part of the reason the Border Patrol pushed so hard for a permanent checkpoint at I-19 is because the temporary stop they had opened them up to civil rights lawsuits if they searched a car without securing a warrant or without the driver’s permission. A permanent checkpoint makes them the property owner of however much of the highway the thing takes up – even if it’s ten feet, well, if you’re on that ten feet, you’re now on their property.
@ Isabella, But yeah, please get us some research on it. It’s interesting because DHS employees rarely know why they can enforce the laws they enforce.
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is there any more info on the arrest of the suspects of the consulate worker killings?
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Yanawana – - Maybe this will help
Suspect Suggests Jail Officer Was Target Of Juárez Killings
MONTERREY, Mexico – A reputed gang leader arrested in connection with the killings of three people linked to the United States Consulate in Ciudad Juárez has told investigators the killers were searching for the car of a officer at the El Paso County Jail, the authorities said in a statement released late Tuesday.
The account given to investigators by Ricardo Valles de la Rosa, a 45-year-old member of the Barrio Azteca prison gang, suggests the target of the assassination on March 13 was Arthur H. Redelfs, not his pregnant wife, Lesly Ann Enriquez, an employee of the consulate.
Mr. Redelfs and Ms. Enriquez were ambushed by several gunmen as they left a child’s birthday party in Ciudad Juárez. Their 7-month-old daughter was found wailing in the backseat. The gunmen also attacked a second car leaving the party, killing the husband of a second consulate worker and wounding two children.
The Mexican authorities say Mr. Valles de la Rosa told them he had been ordered several days earlier by unnamed leaders of the gang in El Paso to track down Mr. Redelfs’ white sport-utility car in Ciudad Juárez. He found it, he said, on March 13 at a business that organized children’s birthday parties.
According to the statement, Mr. Valles de la Rosa confessed that as the car pulled away from the business, he contacted other members of the gang, who ordered him to follow it. He trailed the car until it reached Avenida La Ribereña near the city hall, when he received an order to drop back, because other gang members in another car had picked up the target.
Moments later, he heard the rattle of gunfire and then passed the white car; Mr. Redelfs lay dead in the driver’s seat and a woman was shot to death in the passengers seat, he said, according to the statement.
Mr. Valles de la Rosa, a native of Juarez who has a lengthy criminal history in the United States and was deported in 2007, also confessed to participating in four other murders, the statement said.
“The information the suspect has given is still being verified, so the authorities are not releasing, for the moment, other information about probable participants or the material and intellection masterminds of the double homicide, nor their probable motive,” the statement said.
Indeed, the motive for the attacks remained murky, and authorities on both sides of the border have declined to speculate. One line of investigation is that the Aztecas, as the gang is known in Mexico, were angry with Mr. Redelfs for some action he took in the El Paso County Jail, where many members of the gang have been incarcerated. That theory is bolstered by the fact that the second car that was attacked was also a white S.U.V.
Mr. Valles de la Rosa, who goes on the street by the names El Chino and El 29, was born in Ciudad Juarez in 1964, but left for El Paso with his parents at age 6 and lived there for 30 years.
The statement said he joined a gang and was jailed in El Paso in 1995 and came into contact with the Aztecas while in jail. He was deported to Ciudad Juarez in 2007, and there he worked as a lookout and enforcer for the Aztecas, whom authorities say work for the Juarez drug cartel run by Vicente Carrillo Fuentes on both sides of the border.
In addition to being charged late Tuesday with taking part in the killings in Juarez, he is also charged with killing four members of rival gangs, “Los Mexicles” and “Los Doble AA.”
Across Mexico, the fighting between drug gangs and the military continued unabated, with at least 40 people dying violently on Tuesday. At least 15 people died in firefights between soldiers and gunmen in the border towns of Reynosa, Rio Bravo and Diaz Ordaz, where the Gulf Cartel and a splinter group, Los Zetas are vying for power, Milenio newspaper reported.
Seven people were found executed in Cuernavaca, just south of Mexico City. Four of the bodies were wrapped in blankets and with a placard that delivered a blunt warning to an important capo in the Sinaloa Cartel, Edgar Valdez Villarreal, known as El Barbi, who has been feuding with other members of his organization.
In Ciudad Juárez, at least 13 people were found murdered. In one incident, gunmen burst into a workshop and adjoining house and killed five men and a baby girl. The motive in the shooting was still under investigation, police said.
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They caught El Nacho Coronel
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Wow. Drift is right. I’m contacting some people right now and I’ll get a story up later. But for now, here’s a link to the news.
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like i said, the government are a bunch of pinchis culeros, y de los dos lados… Ejército lo levantó, golpeó y sembró arma: familiares
Familiares de Ricardo Valles de la Rosa, quien es señalado como copartícipe de los homicidios de tres personas vinculadas con el Consulado de Estados Unidos en Ciudad Juárez, dieron a conocer que fue detenido en su casa dos días antes de lo que informó la autoridad.
Su esposa, quien pidió la reserva de su identidad por temor a represalias, mencionó que su marido fue deportado hace más de dos años de Estados Unidos, en julio del 2007, después de un juicio migratorio.
Aseguró que no pertenece a la pandilla de Los Aztecas.
No se dejen engañar por las apariencias, no todos los que traen tatuajes son pandilleros, dijo llorando.
Afirmó que militares arribaron a su domicilio, del que solicitó también su reserva, entre las dos y tres de la tarde del miércoles 24 de marzo del 2010, para llevarse a Ricardo sin explicarles las razones de la intervención.
También dio a conocer que en ese lugar no localizaron ningún artefacto de fuego, por lo que consideró que los soldados le sembraron la pistola que supuestamente le encontraron.
No se puede ni mover, lo golpearon mucho, son puras mentiras lo que están diciendo, indicó después de que la juez de Garantía que llevó el caso decretó un receso.
Durante días, toda la familia pasó angustia, ya que no lo encontraban, fue hasta el domingo cuando se dieron cuenta de que sería presentado en una sala de audiencias de la Ciudad Judicial.
Desde que los soldados se lo llevaron, dijo, ella interpuso denuncias por desaparición ante la Comisión Estatal de los Derechos Humanos (CEDH), ante la Procuraduría General de la República (PGR) y ante la Procuraduría General de Justicia en el Estado (PGJE), pero en ningún lado le ayudaron.
Hasta mi hija de tres años puede decir cómo lo agarraron, yo quiero que la presenten para que ella diga como agarraron a su papá, declaró.
La menor, contó, está todavía en un hospital afectada por el trauma que le causó la detención del sospechoso de homicidio.
La mujer aseguró que los soldados llegaron gritando que traían una orden de cateo y una de detención, pero que nunca le mostraron ningún documento, por lo que considera que el arresto es irregular.
Llorando, afirmó que su pareja sentimental no pertenece al grupo de Los Aztecas ni a ninguna otra pandilla.
Yo soy su esposa, estoy con él y sé todo lo que hace, y no es un asesino, mencionó.
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nice one Michael, lol! pero no cai, April’s fools nomas aplica pa los gringos, no para lo Mexicanos, y menos si son ilegales, lol!
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esos pinchis ilegales tambien saben lo que es rick rolled!!!!
we tried michel LOL!
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Nadien y Isabella:
http://www.jstor.org/pss/3002558
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I donate 500.00 so you can RickRoll the bitches? Shit.
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Very nice find vinotinto. I wonder if it’s ever been reversed by another decision as the date on this is I believe 36 years ago.
Speaking of donations, it is the 1st of the month huh? Great time to support our favorite journalist.
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at 2:30, is this mad respect, or what? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrK4LuCIpMs
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Asshole…lol..I checked in today and saw the Nachito thing..That was wrong as hell…Michele.. El Coronel no va cai nuca porke es de Durango..J/K..I wonder whats up with him he must be living in another country cause nobody has seen him or heard from him in a long time.After the hole Jalisco fiasco he kinda faded away.I know he still got pull and the laboritories are becomming more and more common in Durango his nephew El Changel was misteriosly released after engaging in a gun battle with the Mexican Army.I know for a fact alot of the groups holding plazas in Durango pledge their faith to this man but he sure knows how to keep a low profile.He should kick off a Familia Duranguense cause motherfookers are on that glass dick hard in the southwest part of Durango.Maybe he’s rolling with Chapo and Emma traveling from hide out to hide out in the mountains of Sinaloa and Durango.Que prro el vato..
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the circle around “EL Z3″ is closing…Roberto Rivera Arana, sobrino del capo Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano, “El Lazca”, jefe de la organización delictiva de los Zetas, fue detenido por elementos de la Policía Federal Ministerial en Tabasco.
Junto con el presunto narcotraficante también fueron capturados Yamireth Zeleta Hernández y Daniel Arturo Pérez Rosas, este último director de Seguridad Pública de Ciudad del Carmen, Campeche, quien aparentemente recibía 200 mil pesos mensuales por brindarle protección.
En un comunicado, la PGR informó que los agentes federales aseguraron a Rivero Arana, alias “El Bebo”, “El Felino” o “El Beto”, 5 rifles AK-47, 5 rifles R15, una granada, 4 mil 600 cartuchos útiles de diferentes calibres, 13 cargadores y 800 bolsas de plástico con 100 gramos de mariguana cada una.
También le hallaron 14 pantalones de policía, 16 overoles naranja con el logotipo de Pemex, un par de botas militares, cartucheras y fornituras para armas largas y cortas, así como 2 competuniadoras portátiles, 9 equipos de telecomunicaciones, 26 playeras con el logotipo de la Policía Federal y de la Policía Municipal, 2 tablas de madera para castigo y una placa vehicular del Estado de Veracruz.
El sobrino de Lazcano Lazcano fue capturado luego de tres meses de investigaciones y de trabajo de inteligencia, detalló la PGR.
Los tres detenidos fueron trasladados a la Subprocuraduría de Investigación Especializada en Delincuencia Organizada (SIEDO), en la Ciudad de México, donde ya rinden su declaración ministerial.
“El Lazca” está considerado por la PGR como el número uno de “Los Zetas” en Tabasco, Veracruz, Campeche, Chiapas, y Quintana Roo.
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YeYo: I’ve read it often in comments on Youtube and online articles in Spanish. I wasn’t sure as to what it really meant. Do you think they could be in a different country in Central America?
Nadien & Michel: I’m working on it.
Vinotinto: Excellent find, I’m still reading it. Thank you very much!
Everyone: I fell for the Nacho link too, it was pretty funny. I hope all of you enjoy your Easter weekend!
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I see Charles Bowden’s Murder City: Ciudad Juarez and the Global Economy’s New Killing Fields is now available. Has anyone started this one yet. I need to order mine.
If you haven’t read Down by the River: Drugs, Money, Murder and Family by Bowden, you need too. All of the old timers on this site have read it as far as I know.
Maybe someone that has started the book can give us some input. I forgot to order on the 30th. Its 20 bucks or 10 in e book.
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Disregard the last post..Ya ando pedo..J/K..It was a picture of 2000 himself.
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Oh, shame on you, Michel. You actually April fooled me. I was reading the early posts trying to catch up, you fooken got me. I owe you one.
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@ YeYo, Gallo, all the rest,
Blame Drift, please. I do.
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Great Communist’s Blog. I’ve reported this website to several US Government Republican’s & their websites along the Border. And I told them this website/blog supported illegal aliens breaking into the United States.
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Thanks Handy. Michel will appreciate more readers. Maybe they will make a donation.
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@ Handy Cowbell
You ever hear of the 1st amendment? Oh thats right I forgot, republicans don’t believe in that, Bill O’ Rielly and Rush are the only ones entitled to that amendment. And really do you even know what communism is you moron? Clearly not so I will explain it to you, communism is a belief that inspired a system of goverment. The idea is for everyone to work together to attain a common goal, great idea except there is always a moron like you in the bunch who would like to dominate instead of doing their part. Therefore that system does not work. As for reporting anybody… wow now go fook yourself and your babblefish translator
@ eveyone else sorry but this idiot had it coming
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Guys help there is a republican outside my door!!!!!
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Nevermind his attention was drawn to something shiny on the ground, That should keep him busy till morning!!!!!!
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hey!!!, look at me you guys, i’m an illegal commie!!, lmao!!!
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@ Handy
Ran your name through a US Government Republican website and it came back as Mamon.
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what else can we add to your title ilegal? lol what a deal, people amaze me sometimes.
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@ Gallo
ROFL
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Lo dijiste muy bien Nadien. Si escribo mucho se me sale lo indio.
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@ Gallo
Pues ni modo, a veces menos palabras rinde mas no? Creo que possible aguin anda de transa como punked pero no se. Ni puedo creer lo que digo este guey. Y era otra commentario de el pero ya no esta? por eso estaba pensando de transa.
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@Michele
Handy Cowgirl supports home grown terrorist and extremest report him Michele.
@Isabella
I doubt either Chapo,Emma, or Coronel are in another country they got enough money and enough juice to get protection while Calderon is in office.Emma is Chapos 19 or 20 yr old wife and Nachos (daughter) but really his niece (depending on where you read about) (But I doubt Nacho is into Brother/Sister mating) that should be traveling along with him everywhere he goes.I doubt he would leave her behind because that would be a way to trace him if you look into the capture of Vicente Carillo Leyva they traced him to Mexico city suposedly because his wife never changed her name all the while he was living under another name poing as buisness men. As far as I am concerned Chapo spends his time traveling from spot to spot in Sierra regions of Durango and Sinaloa Nacho might do the same but I can tell you that to get to Nachos place in those mountains its a hella sketchy move for even the military Bin Laden type .I am talking they would have to go threw many towns and by the time they get there he would be gone.Same for Chapo they hide in high altitudes so they have the upper hand when ever somone is comming from the lower altitudes.Its also easier to spot anything in the air but at the same tiem easier to get away by air.
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@Isabella
Look at the terain in the backround look at the landing strip..These guys can do this for the rest of their lives as long as they stay on top.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eSWzLv2HC8
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Gotta love la sierra Duranguense, nice video yeyo. By the time military or foreigners reach my part of la sierra everyone’s been chirped lol.
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YeYo: Yeah, that’s what I figured, like that time the guy allegedly paid for everyone’s dinner just so he could eat in peace. But you’re right, at this point he has more than enough money to get by without being caught anytime soon. I read a month or so ago that he was near Copán in Honduras. That’s why I asked.
I have to give it to Mexico though, the U.S. government can complain and play the blame game, but when it comes to extraditing anyone, from what I can tell, the Mexican government has not allowed bullying from the U.S. Justice Department.
For instance, in Honduras (about 22 years ago), the U.S. government thought it would be a great idea to kidnap (yes, that’s exactly what they did) Matta Ballesteros from Honduras while he was jogging on his property, to add injury to insult, the military and the U.S. government alleged that several judges in Honduras were more then involved with the ‘extradition’ of the subject, a Honduran citizen, which they quickly took into custody.
http://pixelmachete.wordpress.com/2008/05/13/ramon-matta-ballesteros-el-hombre-que-ofrecio-pagar-la-deuda-externa/
Needless to say, that judge attempted to defend Matta (in Honduras and in the U.S.) and as a result his life was threatened (by the Honduran military and anyone else involved) and his family was also threatened. So his wife left him and took his 4-year-old daughter to the states and they’ve lived in Florida ever since.
I’m sure the U.S. government wanted someone to answer for Camarena, but they botched the hell out of his extradition and disregarded the Honduran constitution. The whole ordeal affected many people, including that 4-yea-old, she hasn’t seen her father since and she’s had a very strained relationship with him. Not to mention that fact that an entire country was enraged. Perhaps things happen for a reason, but I personally know that girl and I also know she has a bone to pick and she’s probably going to raise hell in federal courts.
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@ handy
Go report whatever you want, sissy boy. I wish I could stick my sisze 11 boot up your ass. What a jackass!
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