The Vigilante You Know is Better Than the Vigilante You Don’t

Mar 24th, 2010 | By Michel Marizco | Category: General News, Immigration, Politics
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The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps is no more. The Arizona Daily Star's got the scoop on the story here. But there's another armed group floating around down on the border (I mean, besides the Sinaloans). Federal agents have received complaints from hunters in Southern Arizona of being accosted by armed white men in camouflage who told the hunters they are with the Department of Homeland Security, sources say. They weren't affiliated with the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, but law enforcement doesn't know yet who is driving this group, what their members are like, and what their motives are.

After the hunter incident last month, sources say the U.S. Border Patrol confronted the group: "They interviewed them, they denied everything, of course," my source says. "But yeah, those bastards are out there now." The incident was reported in Arizona's Pima County, down towards Sierrita Mountain Road off Ajo Way.

This makes me wonder what's been happening with the vigilante groups along the Mexican border lately. And the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps sudden disbanding also makes me curious.

Last week, Mercer sent out an email inviting ... whomever .... to come down to the border "locked and loaded," ready to stop every single person they encountered.

“We will forcefully engage, detain, and defend our lives and country from the criminals who trample over our culture and laws," were her exact words.

This week, she tells the Arizona Daily Star: "People are ready to come lock and loaded and that’s not what we are all about. It only takes one bad apple to destroy everything we’ve done for the last eight years.” Basically, Mercer incited a riot, encouraging people to bring rifles, hunt illegal migrants down and confront drug traffickers. Then, when the responses raged in, 350 according to the paper, she says she didn't want people to get the wrong idea? Is it a contradictory statement or did some ... special ... volunteers inform them they were coming down and the Minuteman people want no part of it? The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps changed over the years, growing steadily less clumsy, then more aggressive, culminating in a double murder a year ago by one of its supporters. A few years ago, the group had just evolved from a local trio of Cochise County natives to a national call to arms by its then-leader, Chris Simcox. They were funny more than scary then, senior citizens with lawn chairs and sun parasols. One older woman carried an even older .44 revolver in her shaking hands. She used to sit on Border Road south of Bisbee Junction, watching across the barb wire border into the swaying green grasses on the Mexico side. Made a really good lemonade, too, if I recall. Then there were the idiots. One night, and I'm going back a few years here, maybe 2005; the group had set up along a highway in southern Arizona, near the town of Palominas. About ten miles up from that encampment, is a winding road abutting Coronado National Monument, Black Canyon Road. Must have been about 10 p.m., and I was driving up because I'd heard there was a group of them setting up a "surveillance" camp on the hill. The trip was a bust so I came back down and lo and behold, a group of them had set their pickup trucks along the road exit back onto the highway. I slammed on my brakes, nearly crashing into them. Those poor bastards, they were on the lookout for cars filled with Mexican nationals heading north. They weren't expecting someone coming up behind them. I was more than a little pissed; mostly because they were blocking the road. Climbed out of my truck to challenge them, one guy was standing just inside his driver side door, facing in, not turning around to talk to me. "What're you doing?" "Where'd you come from?! Who are you?" one of the men yelled in the dark. "Well who are you and why are you blocking the road?" (it helps to have reporter credentials for these things). "We're just watching the road, minding our own business." I'll be the first to admit, sometimes stupid gets a good grip on me. "Yeah, what you got in your hands?" He kept his hands hidden in the cab of the truck."I don't have anything," he says. "Aw, you got something." I knew what it was of course. The poor dumb bastard had freaked out when a truck came up unexpectedly in the dark. He was probably a Mid-Westerner using his vacation time to support the Minutemen. So he did what anyone might have done, he pulled a gun on me then tucked it away. I could see it now, sitting on the floorboard of his Ford Ranger. He wasn't going to shoot anybody, just scared. Which, I guess, is the last person you want holding a gun. The Minuteman leaders were furious, saying I was stalking their volunteers and trying to incite a shooting. Sure I was. Because nothing would be more satisfying than getting shot in the dark by a restrictionist whackjob. Right. Fast forward a few years, the media lost interest; and the game changed. Now I started seeing men wearing camouflage, cruising up and down Highway 286 and Arivaca Road. These weren't senior citizens anymore. These were young guys in their twenties and thirties, acting like big-game hunters for all the world to see. The agreement with law enforcement was that they'd stay on the main roads, not interfere with the U.S. Border Patrol and keep weapons down to the necessary self-defense minimum, handguns only, no rifles or shotguns. Fast forward to 2009, and now we had Minuteman Project supporters accused of going out and pulling home invasions and shooting nine-year-old kids, acting like the Sinaloan ripoff crews they claimed to revile. Mercer said she received 350 emails from people wanting to do exactly what she had asked them to do: bring more powerful guns down to the border and hunt people along the line. Suddenly, she backed off. Why? Who's coming down to the border this weekend? And who is this second group, accosting American citizens and Mexican nationals, alike?
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  1. @Move
    These people idolize their founding fathers thats why I quoted them to show them what their heroes wanted out of them.Its a way to show them how stupid they look.Belive me I feel you on the french orgies but not the

  2. Matamoros Jail Break anybody got any info on that?? Or el rey de la Heroina that move a whopping 200 kilos a month or somthing and operated independently..Big ups to Mexico for realing in a real big fish this o man I am so depressed I never thought they would catch him….ha ha

  3. Drift: Crazy Video. That’s the type of video’s I come to this site to see. fooking Crazy.

    Illegals contribute millions of dollars to our economy every year. They buy cars, food, clothes gas etc which creates jobs. If all illegals were bagged up and thrown back to mexico, unemployment would be even worse than it is now. Small Businesses would go out of business, manufacturing companies would cut jobs etc. I think illegals have woven themselves into our society so deep that if they left serious ramifications would follow. They not only fill a need in our economy, but a (in some cases) a void. Some work minimum wage jobs and they work damn hard knowing working for minimum wage is way better than what they have back in Mexico. They work hard…holding mulitple jobs, working 80 hours a week just to send half back to mexico. Americans exploit this. Its not in a negative way either. I don’t feel illegals making minimum wage, or close to it, feel exploited. They are greatful to be here making money, making their lives and the lives of their family back home better. The owners get lower labor costs than they normally would, increasting their profits. No matter what side you stand on illegal immigration, they have become crucial part of our economy/society.

  4. Yeah I know what you were doing Yeyo, but that “ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL” from Thoma Jefferson meant something different to him than what it means to you. Because all men were definitely not treated equal in his time.

    Besides when someone brings up the founding fathers like Bastardo did, I have to bring up their faults to smack idiots that still believe Gerge Washington can not tell I lie off their high horse.

  5. I am amazed that people use the founding fathers to promote racism. No matter what they say, it’s all hatred. I grew up around the border my whole life. I have a ton of mexican friends. Judging any man just cuz he’s Mexican. Really lame.

  6. Of course Jefferson’s words take on a different meaning today. It is good to see that “ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL.” Today we mean all people. Back then “all men” meant all white male property owners. It did not include Natives, Indentured Servants, Slaves, Women or Children.

  7. I know a couple of undocumented workers who pay taxes with their fake, borrowed, rented, stolen SS, pay their bills, rent, car note, etc and not receive a single benefit from govt. Those are the ones that got it good. I’m self employed and trying to salvage failing family business, I don’t have shit, in case of sickness I might lose half my assets. On the contrary, govt taxes me for money earned abroad which I already paid taxes for. This year business is so bad I can barely break even. Illegal bashers please do research and find out what race the biggest tax cheats and fraudsters in American history were?

  8. An email I received today, Actually just the stuff in caps is what I recieved, the rest is my response. Someone please correct me if I am wrong on any of this.


    > >> 1 – A JOB, Yes for minimum wage or less, working for employers who pay late, and sometimes never pay at all. Working conditions are absolutely terrible, for example here, if you want to work in a repack, you need to be there at 10:00 am, you may not work until 8:00 pm or not at all depending on how much work there is. If you are not there by 10 am you will not work. You are not paid for this time, only when the actual work begins. Undocumented employees may put in 80 or 90 hours in a week at a pay rate of $6.00 an hour, their check will never be more than $400.00 regardless of how many hours they work. If they complain, they are not given more work and they are done. Employers in many cases withhold state, federal, taxes along with SS. This money is then pocketed by the employer.

    > >> 2 – A DRIVERS LICENSE, California is the only state that every considered this to the best of my knowledge and it drew national attention. It was voted down

    > >> 3 – SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, I can assure you that illegal’s can not receive a Social security card, please do a little research on this if you do not agree.

    > >> 4 – WELFARE, I can’t confirm or deny this, from what I have heard it is possible in limited cases under specific circumstances but I have not confirmed.

    > >> 5 – FOOD STAMPS, again I can’t confirm or deny this, from what I have heard it is possible in limited cases under specific circumstances but I have not confirmed.

    > >> 6 – CREDIT CARDS, yeah right! Try getting even a prepaid credit card without a social, not a chance! Where do people get this?

    >> 7 – SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE, really under what specific program would that be?

    >> 8 – FREE EDUCATION, I think that’s called public school, there is no grants or student loans for illegals.

    > >> 9 – FREE HEALTH CARE, Really? Where? Look forward to seeing the research on that one.

    > >> 10- A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON, PETA has a ton, I would hope A human being regardless of origin or legal status, would rank higher on your list of priorities than an animal.

    > >> LANGUAGE, Learn to speak a second language, you will be surprised how much this can help you in life, and thanks to all the non English documents, you have a great place to start learning.

    > >> YOU DON’T GET ENOUGH RESPECT, Seems to me that people are ok with some people showing pride in they’re place of birth, does the right to be proud of your roots go away when you protest something?

    Above and beyond all of the benefits listed above, when someone crosses the border illegally they routinely are shot at, chased, raped, forced to carry loads of drugs against they’re will, walk until they have blisters the size of you fist, and die from all manner of things.

    I am saddened by this email more then I am angry. I ask you, if you were in the same situation, what would you do?

  9. @ nadien, I know quite a few paisanos that have gotten home loans by really thirsty mortgage brokers, I agree with u though its pretty sad

  10. I think these folks know what they are getting themselves into when they try to cross the border…they know its hard and may be asked to do certain things they normally wouldn’t do. It just goes to show it’s worth it to millions of immigrants as its a better means to a life than what mexico offers.

  11. Nadien, you need to do more research.

    Illegals have been breaking into the United States for the past decade to get free healthcare. Everyone knows that! Illegals that work for funiture manufacturers in Mississippi make an average of $10.05 an hour. You need to do your research there too. They receive government housing & Supplemental Security Income from the Social Security Administration whether they pay taxes or FICA.

    Illegals that break into the United States are the scum of the earth…..

  12. And Rabbit, no one is judging them because they are Mexicans. They’re being judged for breaking into the United States. Is it ok for people to break into your house & steal your money?

  13. Sacc – Americo or Amexico? Ha ha! Man that is so funny, but it’s so true!!

  14. Within 12-16 years, a Mexican who was NOT born in this Country will be President. Then all hell breaks loose.

    Someone dipship like Nancy “El Hooker” Pelosi will change the law where you no longer have to be an American citizen to be President. Hell, Obama isn’t even American.

  15. If illegals did this ,they might just have brought the wrath on themselves,
    APACHE — The Cochise County Sheriff’s Office is releasing little information in the shooting death of a 58-year-old man in a rural area 35 miles north of Douglas near Apache.

    According to the Sheriff’s Office public information officer Carol Capas, deputies are investigating the shooting death of Robert Krentz, who died of gunshot wounds Saturday. She had no additional information available Sunday, but said more will be made known in coming days.

    U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, in a news release, decried the killing of a Cochise County cattle rancher, calling it a horrible tragedy that deserves a swift and strong response.

    “The cold-blooded killing of an Arizona rancher is a sad and sobering reminder of the threats to public safety that exist in our border communities,” Giffords said. “It has not yet been determined who committed this atrocity or why, but I know that federal and local authorities are mobilizing every possible resource to locate and apprehend the assailant.”

    Capas would not confirm or deny that illegal immigrants were involved in the shooting.

    “If, as suspected, this tragedy was connected to smugglers or drug cartels, the federal government must respond appropriately,” said Giffords, whose 8th Congressional District includes 114 miles of international border. “All options should be on the table, including sending more Border Patrol agents to the area and deploying the National Guard.”

    Krentz was part of a ranching family that stretches back more than a century to Arizona’s territorial days. He has served as president of the Cochise-Graham Cattelgrowers Association and, one year ago today, the Krentz Ranch and family were inducted into the Arizona Farming and Ranching Hall of Fame.

    “My heartfelt condolences go out to the Krentz family and friends as they deal with this senseless and brutal act,” said Giffords. “I can’t begin to imagine losing a loved one in such a tragic way. Rob Krentz was a pillar of the Cochise County ranching community. He will be greatly missed.”

  16. All you keyboard kommandos go ahead and make your jokes. We’re already down there killing illegals and cartel members. We are just as well armed and better trained than any of these gangster scum.
    Listen, times are changing. If you are a leftist living in the US this is your last warning. We will kill you if you keep pushing. This is only the beginning.
    Proud “Domestic Terrorist” inciting violence against invaders and traitors.

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