No Te Digo, Pues?
Apr 9th, 2010 | By Michel Marizco | Category: Chismes, General News, Politics
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THE BORDER REPORT
So, the same day that the Mexican Army pulls out of Cd. Juarez, U.S. agents start spreading the rumor that the Juarez Cartel has been defeated?
Anyone want to continue disagreeing with my assessment that the Sinaloa Federation is being protected and supported by the Mexican government?
It’s been clear for some time; from arrests like that of El Jabali last winter to the public relations campaign published by Proceso Magazine this week to the dissension within the Mexican Congress against what even two months ago was seen as an obvious move to protect Joaquin El Chapo Guzman.
El gordito is doing pretty well these days as the Mexican government succeeds in defeating his foes, like Arturo Beltran Leyva last December. A certain …. someone … is feeling pretty good right about now (Not me, I’m just feeling a little smug). I was thinking more in terms of this individual:
Pero bueno. Few things to watch for over the coming weeks:
1. Vicente Carrillo Fuentes. The Navolatoense’s arrest, death or newly-formed partnership with the Bandidos from Badiraguato seems imminent. We’ll see if the old love for his brother, Amado, will survive this round of negotiations. It’s always been said by Sinaloans that the only reason he kept Juarez was because of the respect for Amado Carrillo. If the respect for the old bloodlines holds, he will rejoin the Sinaloans. The murders of Rodolfo in September 2004 and Arturo in December the same year will be forgiven.
2. Will Edgar Valdez Villarreal’s merge with the newly formed Cartel del Pacifico Sur and they in turn with anybody? They’ll have to if he is to survive a pitted war, first against Hector Beltran and then against Sinaloa. That’s assuming he reaches a peace out with Hector Beltran. It’s too soon for Sinaloa to forgive his treachery in breaking away with Arturo in 2008. If that’s the case, my estimation is Fernando Sanchez Arellano’s family in Tijuana and Baja California. They seem the most likely gang for him to join with because the Zetas have had a bounty out on Barbie’s head since at least the 2004 wars for Nuevo Laredo and La Familia has, at least temporarily, merged with the Sinaloa Federation.
3. Will La Familia in Michoacan merge with the Gulf Cartel or the Sinaloa Federation after the Zetas are finished?
4. Will I have to retire early?
Bueno; pues esos hechos, mi estimado, solo lo puede decir el Jefe de Jefes. (Not that one, the other one. Ese ya valio miercoles.)
I’m out in the field on an assignment for a while. Behave or I’ll put Esmerelda in charge.
I hope it is true so that in the end there is on organization left and less violence.
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okay lets look at some current events and see what all this meens.
1.) Alliances of the cartels. Sinaloa/Michoacan/Golfo vs. Z
2.) Mayo’s Interview
3.) Military pull out of Juarez and Chapo declared the victor
4.) Rumors of Nacho’s boy getting levantado/smoked in Nayarit
Alliances of the cartels only means that someone probably governement arranged a sit down to get this war to end. Looks like we will have some piece eventually.
Military pull out of Juarez and Chapo declared the winner. One thing I am sure that the Mexican Government does not prop someone up so that they can let them run around making them look like idiots. They only prop up guys to make the arrest look bigger than it is. I dont see viceroy getting popped this year he operates quietly for the most part.. More like Chapo if you ask me. He is the Pablo of mexico the gov needs this one to look legit.
Mayo’s interview. Well one rummor that I heard was that TEO got popped 3 weeks before the new conference was held. If Mayo is doing some interviews maybe he is goign to be the new face of the SInaloa cartel maybe they already have someone in custody (chapo) and we dont know about it (doubtful)..
Why would anyone be dumb enough to kill nacho’s boy. When the Beltranes and Chapo went to war Mayo immediatly backed chapo. Viceroy did the beltranes. For the most part Nacho and Azul stayed neutral.
Only two reasons to kill nacho’s boy.
1.) Accident. Maybe pickle screwed up and got the wrong guy that is why H may have had him burned
2.) To draw him out to fight. If H is making Nayarit his only plaza he may have wanted to send a message. Nacho is a sleeping giant hopefully for everyone’s sake this is just a rummor. We know what happens when you kill the son of a boss. (Edgar Guzman / The man with the hats kids)
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* oops I meant one organization
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changing the subject…..any one know anything on victor emilio cazares?
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http://www.milenio.com/node/418800
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I sure hope retirement will not come soon for you, I hope you move forward with something good.
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comando armado en Creel, Chihuahua el pasado 15 de Abril. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmujL0GqZkk
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@illegal
who do those guys work for and who were they after…fooking pigs never showed up
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http://narcotraficoenmexico.blogspot.com/2010/04/video-sobre-comando-armando-en-creel.html jajaj watch this video, it was in the border of sonora and chihuahua in the sierra, anyone recoginzes the dude doing blow in the navigator??? scarry shiaaaaat!!
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Wow, they should have used that picture on Forbes magazine.
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Vinotinto: If it was possible to pick one organization, which one should we (the public) pick?
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so who is that in the video doin blow?
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im going to go out on a limb here and say that they are La Linea and the guy doing blow is probably a guy that goes by the name El Blablazo…… im not sure though
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http://lh6.ggpht.com/_hoprnWwYS7M/S2qxd1WAJAI/AAAAAAAAGVA/zouA_b0cnMI/clip_image004_thumb.jpg this is el blablazo.
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i saw an article that Chapo denied involvement in the massacre, im looking for it to back this up but i cant seem to find it. when i find it ill post it.
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I hope this means peace..I wouldnt doubt it that Sinaloa has reached out to AFO in Tijuana despite their bad blood.. Francisco Rafael Arellano got released not to long ago from his bullshit warrant from the 80s here in the states and should be working right along with Fernando Arellano establishing them self once again..So you have to belive that they are a threat to anyone that wants TJ..They did it once with the Arellanos and Chapo either couldnt handle them or chose Teo to take care of it for them which he kinda did but ended un in jail.I doubt the AFO can put the bad blood on the shelf I mean we are taking familiy members lost in that little war.But then again Mexicali is a good spot for Sinaloans they might just let it be and let them operate with out any more crazy wars for the sake of peace.
Nacho is a buisnessman and a great diplomat that has always stayed faithful to his alliances.But his reaction if was brutal I seen the pictures earlier..It don seem like his style..But who knows when it come to familia people tend to loose control and do erational thing..I mean I would go nutz too..
La Barbie is fooked he might be to stupid to realize that his days are numbered therefore hasnt even tried to forge a solid alliance yet and he has burned bridges everywhere he goes bad resume for a drug dealer..Who knows AFO might take him in maybe even Viceroy or whatever is left of his crew if what they say is true,which I doubt that they are done I can only assume they have reached a compromise for the sake of doing buisness the right way.
Man this shit is like a tevenovela uma work on script on my spare time and pitch it to sombody if this shit ever ends..Miklo from blood in blood out can play Barbie..Eugenio Derbez can be Mayito..Joe Pesci can be Chapo if he puts on some weight for the sake of an Oscar award (man I love that Pesci guy)..Arleth Teran can be Arleth Teran as Barbies movie star fling..Salma Hayek can be Sandra Avila..I might just get Nick Cage a job cause I heard he is in financial shambles right now.
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Damm we need spell check..lol..I forget to proof read my writing before I post it…Hooked on Fonyx didnt work for me..
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it will be hard to move the AFO out of tj, even when TEO was out and about, he was losing the war. just looking at it from the outside, it seemed as though teo messed up by putting too much heat in tj, ingeniero and his people seemed more composed and their kills were precise and TEOs at one point was killing people just to kill them.
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outdated photo
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Ilegal
go to 3:16 of this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=KR7rXiSrBzU&feature=related
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Miklo as Barbie .LOL.
Yeah lets do a big budget motion picture of THE MEXICAN DRUGS in the 2000′s. Followed by a straight to DVD movie of Pablo Acosta starring Danny Trejo.
Didn’t Salma Hayek and that actress from Spain spend some time in El Grande’s ranch. Maybe we can play that story into the script without telling the audience that it really happened. It will be something only insiders would know. LOL.
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im not able to put the link, i dont know why, but go to youtube and type in
Chihuahua y “JL” el dos letras
it has JL’s pic on the video and at 3:16 of that video you will see a photo of El Blablazo
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Let me ask you a question: all the good things you got in your life, did they come to you because you’re Calabrese? I’ll tell you the answer. The answer is no. You got a smart kid at Lackawanna College, you got a wife who’s a piece of ass, least she was when you married her, you own one of the most profitable topless bars in North Jersey. Now, did you get all that because you’re Italian? No, you got it because you’re you, because you’re smart, because you’re whatever the fook. Where the fook is our self-esteem? That shit doesn’t come from Columbus or “The Godfather” or Chef-fookin’-Boy-Ar-Dee.
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Why do you people glorify these drug cartels & druglords so much? Do you envy these terrorist thugs that much? Are your lives that dull? Some of the stuff posted on here is just sick. Vomit. These idiot druglords never really get to enjoy any of their wealth because they live like rats on the run. What’s so great about that?
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hey micheal just wanted to let you know i got a call from el charco y me estan diceiendo que andan levantando mucha gente de alla incluyeno a el negro el encargado de esa plaza y muchos trabajadores
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Damn the dude that was found dead was working for the zetas and killed nachos nephew and his son.
Guadalajara.- El caso de la múltiple ejecución en donde murieron doce sujetos en San José de Costilla, municipio de Xalisco, Nayarit, el lunes por la noche, sí está vinculado con el “levantón” de un presunto hijo del narcotraficante Ignacio Coronel Villarreal y con la muerte del ex líder de la Federación de Estudiantes Universitarios (FEU) en la Costa Norte, Fernando Gurrola Coronado.
De acuerdo con fuentes federales que siguieron el caso de cerca, en el departamento en donde se encontraba el ex líder estudiantil estaban también dos familiares de Nacho Coronel, considerado por la Procuraduría General de la República (PGR) como uno de los hombres más importantes del líder del cartel de Sinaloa, Joaquín Guzmán Loera, el Chapo.
La madrugada del lunes, alrededor de las 4:00 horas, al menos 30 pistoleros que dijeron ser agentes irrumpieron en el complejo turístico conocido como El Tigre, buscaron el departamento número 214 del condominio Green Bay, ubicado en esa misma zona de Bahía de Banderas, Nayarit.
Quisieron llevarse a Gurrola Coronado, y después de forcejear con él le dispararon en por lo menos 25 ocasiones.
Posteriormente los sicarios se llevaron a dos hombres más, no mayores a 30 años, los cuales presuntamente eran el hijo y el sobrino del narcotraficante Ignacio Coronel, de los cuales hasta la fecha no se sabe mucho, aunque las autoridades estiman que ambos pudieron haber sido asesinados, puesto que la reacción generada por parte de los sicarios de Nacho Coronel fue numerosa y violenta.
Pese a que sus presuntos familiares no han sido hallados, las autoridades creen que en caso de haber sido victimados pudieran estar ubicados sus cadáveres en lugares cercanos a Nuevo Vallarta.
La venganza del cartel de Sinaloa
A las 23:15 horas de mismo lunes, alrededor de 15 vehículos con entre 50 y 60 sujetos armados arribaron al poblado de San José de Costilla, en Xalisco; testigos dijeron que los que viajaban en los vehículos cercaron una casa a las afueras de la localidad y comenzaron a dispararles a quienes estaban dentro hasta que los asesinaron; posteriormente doce cadáveres fueron llevados a una parcela, los colocaron en la parte posterior de una camioneta Cheyenne y les prendieron fuego a ocho de ellos, otros tres fueron dejados en el camino con impactos de bala y el tiro de gracia en el cráneo.
Entre los muertos estaba José Luis Estrada, el Pepino, un narcotraficante que trabajó para distintos grupos delictivos, incluso para el cartel de Sinaloa, pero actualmente laboraba para la organización delictiva de los Zetas. Este sujeto presuntamente fue el encargado de llevar a cabo la operación en contra del ex líder estudiantil y de los presuntos familiares de Coronel Villarreal.
Recompensa de 5 millones de dólares
Ignacio Coronel Villareal es considerado por la PGR como uno de los operadores más importantes de Joaquín Guzmán Loera, el Chapo. Según fuentes policiales, Nacho Coronel es el encargado de las operaciones del cartel de Sinaloa en varios estados del occidente del país, entre ellos Jalisco. Las operaciones de Nacho Coronel han generado reacciones de las autoridades de Estados Unidos, entre ellas una orden de captura por parte de un jurado federal de Texas, así como la oferta de cinco millones de dólares por parte del FBI, a quienes ofrezcan información que lleve a su captura. (Guadalajara. Público
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por el ranchero desaparecido por eso los andan levantando
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YeYo: Derbez is hilarious! And no worries about the spell check, I can read everything you post. It’s perfectly fine, if you miss a letter (which I do quite often), I can still read the word.
Fenix stated: “Why do you people glorify these drug cartels & druglords so much? Do you envy these terrorist thugs that much? Are your lives that dull? Some of the stuff posted on here is just sick. Vomit. These idiot druglords never really get to enjoy any of their wealth because they live like rats on the run. What’s so great about that?”
Fenix: You seem to have a weak stomach and no one is forcing you to read anything, at least not the comments. From what I’ve read in the past few weeks, the guys don’t “glorify” anyone, they simply discuss information amongst themselves. The same thing is done at the Huffington Post and other blogs, except those blogs don’t have the information and angle that Michel covers. Why would I want to read the surface, mere details, when Michel covers everything here?
The truth is, I wouldn’t waste my time reading simple articles, that’s why I always check out his blog. He’s an excellent writer and his blog is worth keeping up with. If you’re bothered by what is discussed amongst the individuals who frequent the blog on a daily basis, then don’t read the comments. No one is forcing you to read them. I personally enjoy the commentary, it’s usually very informative. Everyone has there own experience and information that they have come by, so you put it together and you get a better picture than what you started with. No harm done.
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@Cardian,
Oyes, vato; donde fueron los levantones? Cerca de San Bernardino, al oriente de Agua Prieta o mas para Chihuahua?
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Andan las caravanas en Sonora.09/04/2010
Dos muertos en territorio sonorense y dos más en la línea divisoria con el Estado de Chihuahua es el saldo de la incursión de ayer en la tarde-noche de un comando armado en las comunidad serrana de Maycoba.
En conferencia de prensa, el procurador del Estado, Abel Murrieta Gutiérrez reveló el hallazgo de cuatro cadáveres al inicio del operativo de reacción a los hechos violentos.
Mencionó que en aquélla comunidad se encuentran policías estatales, federales y efectivos del Ejército Mexicano en a búsqueda del grupo armado.
Uno de las personas asesinadas fue identificada como Tito Nevárez Daniel, de 74 años, padre del comisario del pueblo.
Otra de las víctimas fue identificada como Antonio Lozano Bustillos, de 45 años, mientras que los dos cuerpos encontrados en la línea fronteriza con Chihuahua siguen en calidad de desconocidos.
Bloquea comando armado carretera Internacional
El comando formado por alrededor de 100 sujetos con armas largas y chalecos antibalas bloquearon la Carretera Internacional con dos tráilers, informó el procurador del Estado.
Abel Murrieta Gutiérrez explicó que recibieron en Hermosillo el reporte de la presencia del grupo armado en
Maycoba alrededor de las 18:00 horas de ayer.
Y presumen, por declaraciones de testigos, dijo, que el comando se regresó a Chihuahua a bordo de quince vehículos de modelo reciente a eso de las 23:00 horas, cinco horas después de su incursión a la Sierra de Sonora.
El fiscal estatal abundó que la primera acción del grupo armado fue rafaguear e incendiar la base de la Policía Estatal Investigadora en Yécora, la cual se encontraba sola.
Residentes de las comunidades de Yécora, Maycoba y Kipor, mencionaron a las autoridades que los integrantes del comando portaban armas largas, llevaban el rostro cubierto y chalecos antibalas.
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En un rancho pegado a la linea se llama san pedro esta cerca de palominas az levantaron mucha genta asta unos polleros que trabajan pa el fidel de cananea y unos cuantos en agua prieta
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Isabella, that is your opinion & I am entitled to mine.
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Fenix: Fair enough.
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Al negro le pegaron un madrizza y lo dejaron ser. fue por el ranchero que mataron
yo pense que de seguro le ivan a dar piso pero no lo soltaron.
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@ Cardian,
Pero tan lejos del rancho? El ranchero vivia casi cerca de Nuevo Mexico. E oido que los burreros pasaban cerca de San Bernardito no por Palominas. Quiza los levantaron por otra razon?
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Isabella:
In a previous post you mentioned you were reading previous posts. Just wondering, if you have read “God’s gonna cut you down” yet?
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Check out this article from the El Paso Times, which totaly disagrees with the AP’s article.
entitled: Cartels Continue to Fight fro Control of Juarez Drug Trade
http://www.elpasotimes.com/juarez/ci_14857244
Here is a quote from the article:
“However, Drug Enforcement Administration officials in El Paso said the Sinaloa’s triumph over the trafficking routes around Juárez is not definite.
“Our intelligence does not indicate that the Sinaloa cartel has taken over the Juárez corridor,” said Carmen Coutino, DEA spokeswoman
However, they are making serious attempts to do so.”
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What a joke to quote anything from the DEA.
The bigger question is “Which cartel is DEA rooting for and working actively to support?”
As a way to guarantee employment for its often corrupted agents?
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Marcus: I was by August of 2009, heading towards June, as for the warning (or lack there of). I’m only kidding! Perhaps I shouldn’t have read “God’s Gonna Cut You Down” after having breakfast. But I’ll blame my naturally inquisitive nature for reading it anyway.
I can only assume you would mention the post in order to get my reaction/feedback. In case it’s the usual defense perspective. It’s not going to be the usual. I’m human and that was intensely graphic and difficult to read while the pictures are next to the words. That kind of explicit and gory violence is unjustified. Even dealers, bodyguards, snitches, money launderers and drug mules, don’t deserve to end that way and their families don’t deserve to see that kind of gruesome aftermath. Do I have a defense for such a horrific act? I have no argument, I have nothing.
And if that were to happen here in the U.S. and if these men were American or Hispanic, I’d still have no defense. It would be, what someone else on the blog had previously mentioned, a “slam-dunk” type of case for the U.S. Attorney’s office or the State Attorney’s office.
That was extremely graphic, upsetting, and intensely unfortunate. Also, the men responsible for publicly igniting that type of fear for the sake of power and territory will probably end up the same way Arturo Beltran-Leyva and other cartel members have, dead, with blood-stained money draped on their lifeless corpse – so much for having a purpose in life. But they don’t seem to learn from others’ mistakes and lackluster bravado, which appears to be fueled by greed and ignorance.
As expected, Michel’s writing puts everything into perspective: “The cut-up is savage, a logical progression from the beheadings of last year. It’s to be expected; someone had to escalate to a new level, like a contest between whackjobs to see who can top whom. We went from video-recorded tiros de gracia in 2006 to Youtube beheadings in 2007 to … this.”
So, I’m left asking myself if there is hope for Mexico… As an optimist, I’d have to say: Yes, there’s always hope and the infinite possibility that something can come from nothing and change everything. And in the wise words of Hannibal (Barca, not Lecter), “We will either find a way, or make one.”
I hope you guys are safe and enjoying your weekend.
Michel: Thank you for your skill. It’s really a privilege to read your work.
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http://www.debate.com.mx/eldebate/Articulos/ArticuloPrimera.asp?IdArt=9787744&IdCat=6087 se bailaron a un carnal del Guero Palma en la rosca.
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http://www.metroflog.com/gente_culpable
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Oh Chaguin.
So tell me ILegal how is Chaguin doing nowadays. He still taking out Mayo and Chapo’s people out by the hundreds and making bodies disappear.LOL
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el chaguin esta con el chapo isidro…ya tienen guasave en sus manos..poko pokito van a tener culiacan surrounded…poreso estan matando tanta jente en mazatlan…parte del show…y los pinches anthrax ?? nomas salen cuando escuchan sus corridos..jaja
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“el chaguin esta con el chapo isidro…ya tienen guasave en sus manos..poko pokito van a tener culiacan surrounded”
LOL.
I agree with you on the anthrax though, they are just as useless as Isidro and Chaguin, but I think their corridos got to you though because los Anthrax ain’t doing the fighting. They had their chance to earn their respect, they fooked up and now it’s ghost to the rescue.LOL.
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Chaguin is in Guasave because he got ran out of Mazatlan. Last time he stuck his head out in that area they lit up his caravan he had to abondon several of his blindadas. The only thing they are doing in Mazatlan is burning inocent peoples businesses and claiming that they are chapos people.
Most of the people popping up dead in Maza are Lizaragas and Tirados. Beter be careful if you are a trumpet player in those parts they may confuse you becuase of your last name.
Got to give it to him he is the Osama bin Laden of mexico. Everyone claims he is dead but he keeps popping up with videos.
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Hey guys. You have a lot of info on Sinaloa. But I never hear any inside connects to MICH*****. Don Pepe got popped. I remember a family member of mine got sent to a small town back there to “straighten his Gangsta ass out”. LOL big mistake; he had his own personal pound during his whole stay. Pura pinche Grifadera!
Anyway, Don Pepe’s network was spread wide and large; For CHIVA. another topic rarely talked about. Tecatos are the best “chickens”, but there were a series of busts in SOCAL and POP; extradition.
Another Patsy?
Could Chapstick man be behind all these “busts”?
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Beltrán Leyva reconoció que “El Chapo” le ganó terreno .
http://www.diariocambio.com.mx/2010/abril/policia/050410-dh-policia-beltran-leyva-reconocio-que-el-chapo-le-gano-terreno.htm
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Isabella, another fine writer who puts things into perspective is Charles Bowden. Have you read his much acclaimed “Down by the River: Drugs, Money, Murder and Family?” What I learned, especially, is that none of today’s bloody mayhem is new. It’s been around for at least 45 years.
Maybe the reason the mayhem seems worse is cable TV that sorely sensationalizes it and online comment sections in papers that create an opportunity to personalize.
Who knows?
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@ Jack
Mexico was very peaceful when during the time when Down by the River was written. There was crime but most of it was orderly and Amado had a firm grip on Juarez that nobody would try to take. Yes, AFO tried to do a hit on him but how did that work out for them? The average killings per year were 350 in Juarez in those years. Today it can be that in a month. It is not the same.
Today there is an entirely differant mindset and until this very point in time, there was no cartel boss that all were willing to listen too. There is change in the wind and all we can do is sit and watch to see if Chapo will be the new Amado.
Jack, Charles Bowden released a new book 12 days ago. Your local book store should have it, Murder City, Cuidad Juarez and the new Global Economy’s Killing Fields. It is incredible just as Down by the River was.
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Explosive device tossed at US Consulate in Nuevo Laredo with “just damge to the building” however they will be closed. Could this become a repeat to what we just saw in Juarez with both US and Mexican governments assisting Chapo with the task of getting rid of the Zetas in the same fashion they are getting rid of the Asteca’s in Mexico and the Barrio Asteca’s in the US? I wonder who really threw the device (FBI, CIA, Federallies)?
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Jack: I haven’t read anything by Charles Bowden, but I’m planning to now. I think that may be the book that T_R_C had mentioned in a previous comment, either way, if you’ve read it, I definitely should too. Thank you for recommending the book by the way.
As to the media and the influence technology has on current events, I definitely agree with you, it’s all over the place – it’s on blogs, on the news, and especially in print (Mexican newspapers and magazines seem to cover cartel members as though they are local celebrities). El Mayo’s interview with Proceso would have never happened 45 years ago.
I hope things are good, or at least better, on your front.
T_R_C: Down by the River was published in 2002 and Amado Carrillo Fuentes died in 1997. But either way, I agree with you, according to the time line of his death and his brother, El Viceroy, taking over Ciudad Juarez, it seems as though things have change drastically and for the worse. I think the U.S. wants El Chapo and God knows how that’s going to play out in the future.
I don’t know about you guys, but I personally don’t like that the Mexican government seems to blame the drug cartels for everything. I think it would be better if they would admit to negligence and carelessness.
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TRC, the damn ruthless cartel thugs threw the explosive device. I don’t see why ya’ll glorify these cartels & act as if they aren’t doing anything inhuman….
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T_R_C: I really doubt that the U.S. government is assisting El Chapo Guzman or any member of the Sinaloa Cartel. I think the Department of Justice cares about the drug trafficking and how it’s affecting the United States, but I truly doubt they care about El Chapo’s potential victory against Los Zetas or the Juarez cartel. I just don’t see how that’s feasible.
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I just do not get the feel that the Juarez Cartel has taken hits with their bigger players that are significant enough to even consider giving up the Plaza. That system is intrenched in that city and in El Paso. Their La Linea has taking hits but not to major players either. We have all discussed that from what we are seeing, the war is about five and ten dollar bags on the streets, and who can intimidate law inforcement to their side.
This unannounced change from the 10,000 Mexican Army to 5,000 Federal Police tells me a deal was made. I can’t remember who it was that suggested that the Juarez Cartel may have created another Zetas issue by empowering the Astecas to become so strong but it was said on this site. With this all in consideration, I am starting to get the feel that Juarez may be getting back with Sinaloa and they may have intent to let the Astecas take the fall. Money is money, and names of corporations change as do partners.
Same Cadillac, differant driver. Watch a common street dealer for a year in your city. He will be selling his drugs in the same location everyday. But then one day, the jump out boys will bust him and he is gone. But there it is, the same Cadillac, with a differant face driving doing the same deals. The important part is, the supplier stays the same, and business goes on.
I think we are watching two governments’ master plans roll out to give an illusion that their war on drug cartels in Mexico is a success. The timing is perfect for Calderon. If this is true, everyone will say YEAH and all will be happy (except the Zetas and Astecas). As long as there is peace, I do not care. We all know that nothing will change in the drug industry itself on either side of the border. Oh, I guess there is a few John Wayne law inforcement types on the site that will think that catels and criminal have been taken care of.
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Fenix: Humans do inhuman things everyday (I got that from an X-Man comic book), that includes you and me. Yes, I know, you don’t fook around with explosive devices, and for that matter neither do I, but humanity is volatile.
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23 Somalis with possible terrorist ties were recently “mistakenly” released from Mexican prisons after illegally entering Mexico. It is suspected that they were probably on their way to the southern US border. The release of these suspects by Mexico was on January 21, 2010 and a just uncovered confidential report says that they could be headed to the border at Laredo, Texas and other areas to enter the United States illegally.
I would suggest that it is quite possible that these potential terrorists have already made it into the United States as our borders are almost entirely open for crossings whenever someone wishes to and it has now been over two months since their release. The report emphasizes that law enforcement should use every precaution, including long arms and body armor when responding to incidents in the area.
Of the 23 suspects, only 16 could be identified when they were in the hands of Mexican law enforcement. I’m not really sure how they were released, after all Mexican jails, law enforcement and the judicial system are the epitome of stalwart ethics and simply could never be bribed or coerced. It’s a good thing we have them watching our backs when it comes to border security, since our government is unwilling to do the job in any meaningful sort of way themselves.
One of the individuals released is a really nasty guy named Mohamed Osman Noor.
I’ll let Sara A. Carter of the Washington Examiner, who is breaking this story, fill you in on him.
Included in the group is Mohamed Osman Noor, 35, of Somalia, who U.S. officials suspect has strong ties to Al-Shabaab Mujahideen, an Islamist insurgency group in the ongoing war in Somalia with ties to al Qaeda.
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According to the report, “Five of the subjects are possibly heading towards the Reynosa, Matamoros and Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas areas. … The Laredo Sector should be cognizant of the high possibility that Noor and the other subjects may attempt to enter illegally into the United States through the Laredo Sector area of responsibility.”
The Al-Shabaab Mujahideen, or “Movement of Warrior Youth”, has declared war on the UN and other relief groups in Somalia, claiming to have killed at least 42 relief workers in the country. Egyptian and Arab Jihadists have also been reported to be training Somalis in the group in weapons and suicide bombing tactics.
No reason for concern though, I’m sure they’re just coming here to work. Possibly at one of those many millions of jobs that Americans won’t – and are too lazy – to do.
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Isabella, I don’t know you or anyhing about you. You don’t know me or anything about me. Therefore you can’t say I do anything inhuman, cause you just don’t know. Most of your posts are pretty bright, but that last one you made at me, doesn’t make any sense. Only thing I got out of is that you might like the cartels & the violence they commit on the poor people of Mexico.
I went to church this morning. That’s not inhuman. I won’t be killing anyone today over drugs. I won’t be doing any harm to anyone today. Those things I almost know for sure.
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@Isabella, i was referring to the era in time when Down by the River was written. Jack made reference that violence was happening then and I was pointing out that there was a ten fold difference in murders then and now. I do not know where the 2002 publication comment you made came from. The book was about Armado and the US DEA, read it and you will see what I am talking about. It is a must.
Also, I see things from a differant direction. I do believe that our goverment does many things that are not on the up and up. I think they have a plan layed out for peace in Mexico and will use tactics to achieve this. My gosh. your very bright Isebella, the US has done this forever.
I don’t think they care if Chapo is considered the figure head. That does not even matter. And when he falls it will mean they “look” even more successful. It is way bigger than who the little songs are written about. He is the front man for a lot of powerful people who do not want to be on the front page. His image is not who he really is and yes, I do believe the Mexican Government has a vested interest in his success therefore the US does too. No, the US does not say “we want Chapo.”
This is the Cocaine industry and all want a part in it. And I mean all. This is close to home and easy to follow. i wonder what will come to light in 5 years with the US role in Afganistan and those heroin merchants. They do say production has almost trippled since our occupation there. The US government is crooked too, I promice.
Issebella, I love your passion. Our Justice department is very crooked. Research the House of Death articles on Narco News. There is many of the from 2004 to last week. Look at how our Justice Department did Lalo, and informant that brought to light some of our agencies and Bush’s Johnny Sutten’s illegal behavior. You will never look at our Justice Department in the same light. I have been follow this for 5 years too.
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TRC, you hit the nail on the head! The US government has always been involved in the drug trade coming from South & Central America. That has been proven over & over again. That is why the US government won’t do anything about what is going on the Border. The CIA is the major player from the US. When Carlos Lehder was asked how big the Medellin Cartel’s drug operations were, he responded “they were big, but not as big as the CIA’s”.
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Fenix: I didn’t mean to be offensive, I know I’m sarcastic at times, but if you notice I mentioned I got that quote from an X-Man comic book.
I’m sorry if I offended you.
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Thank you Fenix. I find your information interesting and it cetainly puts a differant twist to what is happening at the border and in Mexican prison releases.
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Isabella, it’s all good. We may share a difference in opinions, but I respect yours & your views about the border situation. One thing I’m sure we all agree with is it’s a mess, and it’s unfortunate that the Mexican people & the American people on the Border have to live in fear daily. Don’t you know the Columbians are happy? They don’t have it near as bad about the 70′s & 80′s.
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T_R_C: Will do. I’ll do my research. But what I’m getting from you, based on your response, is that the United States government, through the U.S Department of Justice, has a 5 million dollar bounty on his head, and for that matter for El Mayo’s head too, but they are not actively looking for the leaders of the Sinaloa cartel as they are for the other Mexican cartels. That is a valid perspective and definitely one that I understand.
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Micheal i guess your right it might be over something else
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You know, it seems we think the US government is backing/supporting the Sinaloa Cartel, but history shows us it’s only a matter of time before the US government double crosses the Cartel & turns their back on the Sinaloa Organization. They’ve done it to every cartel they’ve worked with.
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I too appreciate your input Fenix, its healthy to realize that there are several things going on in Mexico, not all having to do with drugs. I have been sitting on the sideline, so Michel does not put me in charge, LOL. I am glad that the book MURDER CITY is being mentioned. I have a ton of books and films on what is ‘happening’ in Juarez. I feel Charles Bowden’s perspective is the most honest and thorough I have read. When you have violent organizations trying to dictate what news can be shared, sights like this and books like Bowdens become so very very valuable.
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PS Barbies days are numbered. Barbie is ultimately about Barbie, his needs, his wants and his desires. He has a sex habit and a drug habit that will do him in…..soon!
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Fenix: There has been some extraditions from Colombia to the U.S. in the last couple of years. The Colombians appear to be very quiet, like they go about their business without making the kind of spectacles that Pablo Escobar was notorious for.
When the guys from Colombia are finally extradited and I get to read about it on the Herald, since some of the cases are tried in the Southern District of Florida, I usually find myself asking who they are and if anyone knows any details about them or the criminal case pending.
For instance when Fabio Ochoa Vasquez was extradited to the United States, since he was represented by Roy Black (one of the best defense attorneys in the country), I made sure to keep up on everything that was going on in his federal case in Miami. But from what I can tell, they appear to be doing business quietly, in an almost a conservative manner, not at all like Pablo Escobar in his day.
Also, it appears like the federal dockets are being filled up with most of the men dealing in the Mexican cartels, if not the main guys (cartel members) then the guys representing them on the street.
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Isabella, these are all just thoughts and my thoughts change. What if El Mayo retired as some suspect he will? What if Vicente Carillo allowed the media and propaganda to sell that the Sinaloa won the Juarez War yet under the table, they got back with the federation they more or less had been with until 2008? Hell, he could retire too and I suspect he would like to also. The Tijuana Cartel has been labeled only a shadow of itself, just as Juarez and the Gulf have been labeled but really, they are all in control of their plazas.
How would it look with Gulf, Tijuana and Juarez cartels labeled only middle player. Then El Mayo retires, an Vicente disappears also. El Chapo takes the lead, but guess what, he has cancer. So maybe they catch him or he dies. Remember, the DEA said he would be caught in 90 days about 90 days ago.
I just smell that the US and Mexico want to claim some type of victory in this war. Will they ever win, hell no. Will they ever pay out a $ 5,000,000 reward, hell no again. If anyone collected this, would they make it to the bank, hell no? Those rewards are an attempt to sell the public that they are after these people. They probably would rather use intel so they can highjack or busts their loads for agency profits. They FBI and CIA have done this for years. Why bust the cash cows? By the way, look at the DEA Most Wanted web site and you will see people with these huge rewards that have been captured. The funny thing is, it means so little that they are still posted a year later.
There are many participants on this site that believe the Mexican Government is in bed with the Sinaloa Cartel to streamline the cocaine industry. Much of the Mexican media and government critics believe this too. There is emplied evidence of this in most articles that you read if you pay close attention.
Remember, it looks good on the 6 oclock news to talk about the nation wide bust that set the Senaloa Cartel back 7 million dollars, 258 members in the US, 64 vehilces, 3 planes and 2 motor boats. Americans feel safe again. Lol. We know it does not matter to Sinaloa. this is a drop in the bucket.
Isabella, my thought are simply just that, “my thoughts,”
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T_R_C: Trust me, I understand. What I was trying to say was that what you said was something I haven’t considered or looked into. That’s what I meant. I think it’s the reason we all check out the Border Reporter, aside from the excellent writing and information provided, we also get to discuss issues amongst each other, which is excellent because you end up covering a lot of territory that way.
I read your comments and your input (actually, everyone’s input), because it’s an angle that I can appreciate, given my lack of experience when it comes to the Mexican government and the Mexican drug cartels.
I would probably be soulless without passion.
So you know, there’s no harm done.
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@Esmerelda;
In your opinion, how do you think Barbie has been able to slip around mexico this long without being captured? with blue eyes and brown hair, he must stick out like a sore thumb. With his photo all over the place, there’s no way he can go to any nightclub, or even go outside. If it’s true he has a sex habit and a drug habit, that means he spends part of his time attending to those habits, which leads to carelessness.
how can he carry on for so long?
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Jason, many of the people that are high profile such as Barbie wear uniforms. Some have local, state and federal uniforms for whatever need they have to accomplish that day. There is many stocky, brown hair, blue eyed mexicans in Mexico. Some of the wanted are just considered untouchable and nobody knows nothing when they are seen. Others travel with an onterage of men and nobody sees nothing. When his number is called, he will be found. With 2 million and 5 million dollar rewards on many of their heads, it is easy to conclude that many are protected. In his case, I will only suspect it is by the local police in the area he is in. And for only as long as his money lasts or someone else out bids him. In Chapo’s case, he is protected by local, state, and federal police along with some of the military. It is all about the bribes.
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@ Isabella, I understand where you are coming from. I just try to be thorough with my responces because when I don’t, I confuse people. I enjoy your input and challenging questions and opinions. Question me anytime you want, we all need that. Peace as always!
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@ Isebella, in todays El Paso Times, click on news, go to Juarez. There is a good critique on Bowden’s new book, Murder City.
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This is what I figure on the supposed Juarez takeover… Many speculate that not only is the Mexican government supporting the Sinaloa Cartel, but that the US government is doing likewise… This is actually a not too far fetched idea, and a very potential one, based on prior deals made between the U.S. and mob organizations during the WW2…
The U.S. has acknowledged having made a deal with a mob figure (I cant remember who it was) to protect our ports from being attacked by the German, Italian and Japanese forces. Another US/Mexico wartime deal: the opium/poppy flower agri-pact, to provide opium and heroin sub-base to the U.S. Armys’ medical units. That alone is enough to make this idea more than credible…
I FIGURE THIS: The U.S. struck a deal with the original Mexican drug organization, The Sinaloan Cartel. The trade would be a win-win situation for both sides. The Cartels would guarantee that no “ethnic” illegal aliens would be crossing through the border into U.S. soil, this, following the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center towers in New York. And in return, the U.S. would turn a blind eye on most of the Sinaloa Cartels’ dealings, taking out (bring charges upon and arrest) whomever they wanted taken out, and so on.
Why the Sinaloa Cartel? The cartels’ name itself isn’t the actual moniker, as are the figures behind it… El Azul, Ignacio Villareal, El Mayo and Mr Guzman himself… (Guzmans’ uncle was Pedro Avilez) entities that can claim original status from seniority and bloodline going back to the first ever cartel to be established in Mexico, the Guadalajara Cartel…
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Barbie can slip through many cracks BECAUSE of his versatile looks. Barbie is a true Buy-Sexual . He is sexually attracted to whatever sex can buy him the most (be it power, or whatever) The truth is, he is so narcicistic that it is his ego that keeps him safe, at least for right now. This will soon change.
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T_R_C: I found the article, thanks! The article is titled “Juárez is dying, prominent journalist warns,” by Ramon Renteria.
Here’s the link if anyone else is interested: http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_14860751
I think I’ll read Down by the River first and then I’ll move forward with Murder City.
EnPokasPalabras: I agree, I see what you and T_R_C are talking about, I read somewhere that JFK did the same with the mafia, when he wanted to take out Fidel Castro, after the Bay of Pigs fiasco in the 1960s.
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EnPokasPalabras….
The guy was named Carlo Giancanna, and that’s a good story.
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I think Move had mentioned in a previous comment that La Barbie was a pill popping homosexual… From what I’ve read so far, he doesn’t seem like a loyal individual and according to an article I read many feel that Hector Beltran-Leyva is the natural heir to the Beltran-Leyva cartel. Perhaps the Sinaloa cartel is just sitting it out while La Barbie and Hector fight it out and kill each other, in doing so, they don’t even have to get their hands dirty. I don’t see how any cartel would want La Barbie on their side after he’s betrayed others on several ocations… I guess loyalty is everything.
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http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/04/11/20100411mexico-drugs-blacklist.html
This article says that the Mexican Gov continues to fund a daycare ran by El Mayo’s daughter even though the US has it on its blacklist as a front for laundering money. More evidence of Calderon helping Sinaloa Fed?
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Marcus: What that means is that businesses/individuals here in the United States can NOT do any kind of business transactions or financial transaction with the businesses listed on El Mayo Zambada’s financial network, which was released by the Department of Justice and the Department of Treasury a couple of years ago, in otherwise they will be heavily fined for doing so.
http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/programs/narco/charts/zambada_chart_051707.pdf
If I’m not mistaken, Wachovia Bank was recently fined heavily for transactions dealing with Mexican drug cartels. I think the bank said it would pay $160 million in fines, which is damn good for the U.S. government.
http://online.barrons.com/article/SB126904692204264711.html
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2010/03/wachovia_admits_it_laundered_m.php
The United States has no jurisdiction or authority in Mexico, El Mayo’s daughter’s business is out of the U.S.’s reach. I don’t know if Fox ever did anything about the various businesses that have been established by El Mayo’s daughters and it doesn’t look like Calderon has done much. I’m sure someone else would be able to expand on the Mexican government’s position.
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I read the barbie is working for sinaloa and sinoloa wants to whipe out zetas and beltrans. What’s up with that pepino guy I herd he got killed because he was working with zetas and killed nachos son and nephew?
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Beltran Leyva
http://treas.gov/press/releases/reports/press%20chart.pdf
Sinaloa
http://treas.gov/press/releases/reports/121509%20sinaloa%20cartel%20press%20chart.pdf
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Marcus: The article you posted was VERY original, the following subsection reminds me of a post that someone titled exactly the same (weeks ago):
“Sins of the fathers”
Another problem with the list is that it tends to lump honest people in with their crooked relatives, Rojas said. That’s partly because U.S. racketeering laws give authorities more power to go after entire families and partly because the United States has few investigators in Mexico to figure out who’s involved and who isn’t, he said.
Zambada Niebla says her fugitive father gave her no money to start her businesses and receives none of the profits. She says she inherited investments and the building where the day care is located from her grandmother.
Her mother divorced El Mayo when she was a teenager, and Zambada Niebla, now 40, says she hasn’t seen her father in “a very long time.”
Furthermore, the day care’s contract with the government bars it from accepting any other clients, making it impossible to launder drug money through the business, said Fernando Gaxiola, her lawyer.
“So unless it’s laundering (Mexican President) Felipe Calderón’s money, it’s not a money-laundering operation at all,” Gaxiola said.
However, Mexican banks, wary of jeopardizing their own dealings with the United States or running afoul of the Financial Action Task Force, an international body, won’t give the day care a bank account, lend it money or give Zambada Niebla a credit card, she said.
Zambada Niebla appealed to the Treasury Department two years ago. Gaxiola said he has met with officials from the department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control and the Drug Enforcement Administration to ask that they inspect Zambada Niebla’s businesses and lift the sanctions.
So far, no agents have come by, Gaxiola said.
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original= plain and dull
or
original= fresh?
“God’s Gonna Cut You Down” was the first article that really caught my eye. There were stories of the violence, but those pictures really put it in perspective for me. By far my favorite article for that same reason.
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Honestly, I hate when reporters google information, it’s annoying to read. You end up reading the same kind of information from one source to another and nothing is in-depth.
All reporters do it, unless they are working on a local story with enough interviews that support their work, otherwise they rely on other sources online. Which is the reason why I appreciate the BR.
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Deadlines!
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Sorry Marcus, I was being sarcastic, that’s why I capitalized the word “very,” the article was not original, it’s just regurgitated information from one source to the other, there’s no investigative journalism going on. I’m sorry that I posted that comment, but that’s what I meant.
As for “God’s Gonna Cut You Down,” thanks for the warning, I really enjoyed reading about the carnage while looking at the pictures over breakfast! KIDDING OF COURSE!
Honestly, I really like the blog because the questions Michel poses seem to trigger even more questions and eventually answers, he points out stuff that most people (including myself) would miss with regard to everything that’s going on in Mexico and near the U.S. border.
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Marcus! Did you write that??? Are you a writer in disguise??? Only a reporter would bring up deadlines as a defense.
If you are a reporter, I hope you enjoy Michel’s writing and everyone’s input. And for the record, I’m his future lawyer, so please read the small print on the bottom of the blog where it states: “All materials contained on this site are protected by United States copyright law and may not be reproduced distributed, transmitted, displayed, published or broadcast without the prior written permission of MICHEL MARIZCO.
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I sell pizza, wings, and beer…definately not a writer. The only writing I can speak of is my 5 paragraph essay to get me down gradutaion isle.
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Marcus: Then you’re at the right place. Jack and T_R_C mentioned a couple of books from Charles Bowden, the most recent “Murder City,” and a good one that I’m going to start soon, “Down by the River.”
Google books are always good to cite, you don’t have to buy them or go to the library to check them out because you can google them, the only drawback is that there are pages missing, but just use what you can find.
Google the hell out of everything, if you’re looking for specific information google words into quotation marks, for instance: “Zambada-Niebla financial network.” I know I’ve done that to no end, I think once I did a 16 page research paper in 2 days, I thought I was going to kill myself, but I did it and aced it. So you can do it too! You’ll be fine.
Hope my input helps, if you need anymore info, just ask and I’ll be more than glad to get you through school.
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Took five years, but I graduated almost ten years ago. Thanks for the help though.
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Isabella-
You want to learn something about Mexico/law/US/and keep you busy for at least a week? Let the readers take a breather from ya?
Get in touch with me, got something for ya…
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LL Cool Hannah
Ladies Love Cool Hannah! LMAO
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“I have said it before and I’ll say it again. Barbie’s quick rise makes zero sense. The only thing people give him credit for, which was fight the z’s, he was terrible at. The only reason that anyone would want to keep that failure around is if he was giving up his ass cheecks to the higher ups. That is what happens when you think with your dick instead your brain when putting people in high positions in your organization. Arputo should know this, when you give some one too much too quick that person will be the first one to buckle, especially if that person was just a small time drug dealer like barbie was.”
DATED June 26, 2009 by Me.
Allow me to say I told you so. For years I have been telling everybody that Barbie was a incompetent moron and now finally people are starting to agree. Took you guys long enough.LOL.
Name Changer aka D_Nephew one last time, if you had to chose between Bravo and Barbie to be incharge of your security and gunmen who would you pick? What the hell same question for you ilegal. Nephew I know you say Borrado was the one really in charge, so let’s say this was after he had him killed. Isn’t that just like Arturo, killing the only usefull man in his organization. Not really sure if I believe that story, even for Arturo that seems way too retarded.
Some of you might wonder why I keep making this comparison. Well this told me one thing that was very important, Arturo was fooking stupid. Barbie was a FOOTBALL player in high school and a low level drug dealer after that. Yet some how this guy gets put in a very high position in a Arturo’s organization way too fast. Barbie didn’t even have time to put in work for the cartel it happened so quick. It would be one thing if Barbie showed up and put in work for the cartel, AND ACTUALLY GET RESULTS. Edgar appeared seduced Arturo and got put on to something heavy. It’s kind of like he is a professional con man, and Mr White Boots was to dumb to figure out what was going on. Either that or they were gay lovers.
Arturo got conned or he was romantically involved with the guy. There is just no other way I can imagine that Barbie would be given such a position. As soon as he saw that los Beltranes ending up the losers in this war, he left their asses.
Why was Barbie so quick to backstab Los Beltranes?
BECAUSE HE NEVER WORKED FOR WHAT HE GOT.
Bravo kind of came out of no where too but he has a military background. It made sense for Chapo to put him incharge of what he did.
More important than lo que dicen los compas is to look at the type of people they surround themselves with. That will tell you more about the los Jefes than anything else.
The picture of Bravo and all of Barbie’s tell a lot too. In Bravo’s picture he looked like he born to wear a military uniform, you can tell he sees himself as a soldier. Barbie always looks like smug jackass in all his pictures. From Barbie’s pictures you can tell the only thing he is good at is partying.
People stop listening to los compas, they just tell you what they want to believe and what they want you to hear. Look at the situation objectively and you will get your answers. If you can’t stop listening to los compas than just listen to el compa MOVE .LOL.
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@Isabella: “I really like the blog because the questions Michel poses seem to trigger even more questions and eventually answers, he points out stuff that most people (including myself) would miss with regard to everything that’s going on in Mexico and near the U.S. border.”
Hear, Hear! I used to live on the Border (Bisbee) and have traveled thousands of miles by bicycle on dirt roads all over Mexico, but my last trip down there was at least eight years ago and BR is how I stay in touch with a place I love.
We had many times found ourselves in the middle of some real bad shit going down, but it was always a low-level war, and both sides would find it amusing to call a cease-fire to let the dumb-ass loco gringos pedal through before getting back to it. That video of the roadblock in Creel up above kind of freaked me out though, because while they very well might have let us through while they’re beating the shit out of that guy that seemed to just be in the wrong place at the wrong time, maybe they wouldn’t. Knowing that the Cartels are deeply aware that killing or harming tourists is the worst possible P.R. they could get, those guys looked like they could do anything.
I’m going to go get both those Charles Bowden books tomorrow, The Border as It Was, and The Border as It Is. His book, “The Secret Forest” with photographer Jack Dykinga is beautiful and inspiring, and I recommend that one too.
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Thanks, but no thanks Vincent.
Take care.
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Thanks Rex! I guess I still have a hell of a lot of reading to do, but that’s always good. As for the border, I live in beautiful (but very humid) Miami, I’m far away from there, but I have somewhat of a better of grasp regarding everything that’s going on than I did over a month ago. And I can only hope that things change in the United States and in Central America.
Marcus: Your welcome, happy to help anyway.
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Yup…Mondays fooken suck!!!
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Did everybody see this video?? Cause I might be a little late on this one but what bunch of parrots there is like 50 of them to protect one fooken lame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYbfXprMLA4&feature=related
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Who is the dude handing out the pase to those Tarahumaras with guns?? Es el JL??
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100…biatch
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lsabeIIa: I don’t have an answer for you. I would hope the organization that can negotiate an end to the violence with the Mex. Gov’t.
Did anyone se Charles Bowden on Nat’l. Geo. Explorer last night?
Bowden Said: Americans love their country deeply but can only face it by being stoned out of their brains apparently. (not an exact quote)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaRK3e0fcAw
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That’s fine, too bad.
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Vinotinto: An end in the ongoing violence would be awesome. I didn’t catch Bowden on the National Geographic Channel, I didn’t even know he was on. Hopefully I can catch a rerun, or I can always look for it on the brilliance that is Youtube.
That’s where I watched the documentary that Lisa Ling did in Mexico about the drug war between the cartels. I really like her, she kept asking about El Chapo, knowing fully well that no one was going to answer her; all she got out of them was how they felt about the presence of the drug cartels and their response was positive because they have running water and electricity.
We also watched the one about Mexican prisons (scary as hell by the way), my nieces were sad that one of the guys that was doing time (for murder mind you), couldn’t afford to buy a coke unless he bet on racquetball games on a daily basis. What I learned is that the guys that live here and commit a murder in U.S. and run back to Mexico, prefer to do their time over there (regardless of how fooked up the Mexican prisons are), because they don’t have to deal with the death penalty. I found that interesting.
In the article that T_R_C mentioned in El Paso Times from last week, this quote caught my attention:
“Part of the book is to get past these numbers, to make you hear those flies buzzing over that puddle of blood in that room where they executed nine people having a prayer meeting,” Bowden said.
If he can paint with words and make me feel as though I’m there, then I seriously need to start reading his books… Although, from the above referenced quote, I have a strong feeling that I will also be able to smell the stench of hot salty rust.
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vinotinto Reply:
April 19th, 2010 at 10:13 am
off subject, great series of lectures
http://tinyurl.com/yj48c8o
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Isabella
Bowden is the only voice in the “border conversation” that makes any sense to me. I have lived on the border my whole life. Have had two people close to me murdered, both women. One was raped before being murdered by a man in the US illegally. The man fled back to Mex. and is free. The second murdered by a cop (he was found guilty but was sentenced to time served and released). Bowden sees the border the way it is, not through the blinders many have from never having lived here.
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Isabella, Esmerelda & Move: thanks for your insight about Barbie.
Another question: Barbie’s younger brother Adrian was killed in Nuevo Laredo, which led to that famous zeta interrogation/execution videotape in revenge.
I was unable to find any information about Adrian on google, or the circumstances behind his killing. Does anyone know anything about him?
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@Jason
They more or less tell you in that interrogation type.
The zetas were upset that Barbie’s brother was flaunting his connections and money. I guess being an idiot is a family trait in Barbie’s family.
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chaguin is dead http://www.riodoce.com.mx/content/view/4828/41/
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the feds are closing in on the rodent
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a drug dealer, flaunting he’s money and connections, since when has then been new? Just listen to corridos, and you’ll get an insight on the ego of drug dealers, from zetas to mayos to chapos to beltranes, there all on an ego trip that needs to be constantly fed.
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Yeah but Barbie’s brother was doing that in Zeta territory or at least at the time the territory was in dispute .
It would of been one thing if he did that bragging far away from the Zetas, but that idoit did it in their back yard.
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Jason: No need to thank me, I just mentioned what Move had said in a previous comment 2 or 3 posts ago. And the rest I basically got online from an article, I don’t know the ins and outs of the Beltran-Leyva cartel, but it appears they are not doing well. As to the video, I haven’t seen it, but now I want to. I doubt it’s still up on Youtube.
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here you go Jason & Isabella, supposedly Barbie was behind this
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/graficos/animados/videos/dallas1.html
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Isabella: Full version, unedited:
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/graficos/animados/videos/ejecuciones.html
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Drift & Jason: Thanks, I couldn’t find it anywhere. That was graphic.
Con un video asi, no manches, como no me hiban a llamar una niña babosa y engreída cuando estaba defendiendo el juicio federal hace un mes. Nadie con un cerebro que trabaje pone un video asi en el Internet para que todo el mundo y su abuela lo vean. Obvio que El Barbie no va pasar de este año.
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@ yeyo who is the big shot dude handing out the cocaine in the video?
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They are talking about it like it’s just a walk in the park. Drift who kills the guy when the gun is pointed at him? Is it El Barbie and his men, since you said he was behind the video?
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Actually I found 2 more videos, yeah, the videos were not a good idea…. It was actually a very bad call.
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i think its only assumed its “el barbie”, because he asks him why he picked up he’s brother (although it is a pretty good assumption).
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Did u see this video with like 50 sicarios and the guy in the lincoln navigator with a huge bag of coke
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I know I’m sarcastic as hell, but who in their right mind commits a freaking crime (even if the guys they are beating up, torturing and killing are other cartel members and opponents/enemies) and films it??? And then he posted the freaking footage on Youtube for all the world to see. That’s insane!!!
Man, that wouldn’t fly here in the U.S., I think I would tell my client that we’re going to get launched and that he should plea guilty as soon as possible. Seriously, when they think of doing these stupid things, I think they should ask themselves, would Amado Carrillo or on of the other old school guys do this? The answer would probably be “no” each and every time… So they shouldn’t do it. I know they are not going to ask themselves: What would Jesus do? Because they clearly don’t care about Jesus.
rofl: I heard when something was said about someone’s brother.
jrmafia: No I haven’t seen that one, I think that’s the one you guys were discussing earlier. I’m going to watch it now.
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They say that the gloved man who shot the dude might have been military or police.
Also, they didn’t think Barbie’s voice was on the video because the accent & voice wasn’t right.
They thought that maybe he was directing the interrogation through other person.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/120105dnintdvd.1277f911.html
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It’s only escalating violence…you got to always out do your enemy it seems in how you kill to bring fear, so it just escalated from there. Just think beheadings before was never seen, now it’s common occurence. The question is I think what’s next? Because I don’t see any of this stopping.
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This past Sunday in Santa Ana, Sonora, I talked with a pleasant young man who came by the motel to ask to clean my windshield. He’s 21, married with a beautiful 1-year-old daughter, whose photo he proudly showed me.
He cleans windshields on weekends to supplement the pay he earns during the week at a maquila. There, he makes $90 pesos a day, which at today’s exchange rate is $7.38. ($37US weekly gross – minus deductions for the company nurse, the company lunch, the company bus.) On a good Saturday or Sunday, he brings in another $200 pesos or $16.40US.
He told me that in December he and 2 cousins managed to cross the border near Nogales but were caught in the Atascosas Mountains. He said he was determined to try again, despite the fact that the 2 nights he’d spent in the Atascosas were the most frightening and dangerous experience he’d ever had.
A gallon of milk is $3.50US in Santa Ana; tortillas average 8 cents each; Pinto beans, are 67 cents a kilo.
He’ll try again.
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@yeyo
you posted the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYbfXprMLA4&feature=related
who is this guy doing the coke in the lincoln navigator
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Rofl: I understand that their objective is to outdo and intimidate each other through fear tactics. But in addition to fear, there’s also paranoia and mayhem, which has escalated in the past few years. In turn, this drug war and the tactless actions by many cartel members end up being a liability – a double-edged sword. Diplomacy, it’s all about diplomacy. But don’t take it from me, I’m just a girl.
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You have hit the nail on the head. I have been studing mexico’s drug war for 5 yrs. President is beyound all reason protecting one grouip. El Chapo. Long term at this rate and path Pablo Escobar will have won.
mexico must hunt down and KILL all kidnappers, extorsonist, men with guns.
small reward/large reward hot line based in america’s border
A team of elite military forces/Hit men to use our intelligence and mexico’s permission to hunt and kill not just DTO head but 10 layers down.
conficate all funny money transations/tranfers by mexico goverment to finance drug war.
Question/detain memebers of DTO and 5 row’s down familes/friends/contacts after survailence.
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