‘We Have to Trust Our Law Enforcement’ (???!!!)

Apr 24th, 2010 | By Michel Marizco | Category: General News, Immigration, Politics
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THE BORDER REPORT

Oh, come on. Like she wasn’t gonna sign it. Of course she was going to sign it. Her re-election depended on it. I’ll go you one further: And the woman knows the bill’s going to get tossed in the trash for its illegal measures. The Phoenix Republicans love her; the Democrats will call the bill’s subsequent destruction a victory. She’ll get re-elected and the border will continue churning over billions of illicit dollars, unhindered until the next crisis.

For now, Gov. Jan Brewer signed Senate Bill 1070 into law this afternoon, creating one of the most draconian environments against non-white residents I’ve ever seen.

I’m assuming the challenges citing the Fourth Amendment are going to be introduced in federal court by Monday, if they haven’t already. I hope so, anyway. At this point in the game, the only situation that is going to keep this law from being exercised by the cops is going to be a federal injunction.

This is where I see the lawsuits playing out:

One of the conditions for Senate Bill 1070 is that race must not be the only factor in a cop’s determination to ask an individual for his papers. However, and this is where the lawyers will work it:  they can couple race with something as simple as “driving in a corridor known for human smuggling”, to establish reasonable suspicion to pull you over.

Try defining a corridor in Arizona that isn’t used for human smuggling. Interstate 10? I-85 from Sonoyta to Phoenix? I-19 from Nogales to Tucson? I-80 from Douglas to the 10?

Gov. Brewer’s response to the new police powers?

“We have to trust our law enforcement,” Brewer said.

“Police officers are going to be respectful. They know what their jobs are, they’ve taken an oath. And racial profiling is illegal.”

Of course they are.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: This is the choice police departments now face – be sued for racial profiling or be sued for not enforcing immigration law. Good luck with that.

This poor state is facing a $2.6 billion deficit in 2011; last month, the legislature voted $1.1 billion in cuts, including closing most of the state parks, eliminating a childrens’ health program that leaves 47,000 low-income children without coverage, slicing into public schools by as much as $780 per student in some districts, and even, oh delicious irony, cutting into law enforcement.

Arizona may lead the nation in identity theft but the Department of Public Safety’s ID Theft Task Force was one of the law enforcement units eliminated in the budget last month.

I hope you kept a stash of cash tucked away somewhere for the Attorney General’s office, Governor. My guess is a legal bill is going to come due very, very soon.

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  1. Thanks. Michel, for labeling this evil bill by its right name: it’s racist, pure and simple.

    “They came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

    Then they came for me and by that time no one was left to speak up.”

    German Pastor Martin Niemöller responding to the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group.

    Who’s next?

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  2. Governer Brewer — FTP!

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  3. Michel and Jack (and the others that will surely agree with you) I don’t know man, I think this thing passes, and I think other states including Texas, Nevada, Utah, and possibly New Mexico (don’t know their political world too much) follow suit and follow rather quickly. I particularly like this bill for one major reason, the state has finally called out the federal governemnt for what they are, a bunch of bureaucrat’s that can’t get anything done. You don’t like our new law, fine by us, come up with something that works, put it on the table, and do it, don’t talk about don’t go out and poll it, do it, period. granted it’s a touchy subject to do this on, but think if they had done it with another hot topic.

    Blame the feds for this, don’t blame your Governor.

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    EnPokasPalabras Reply:

    Not New Mexico that’s for sure… Gov. Richardson (Half Mex / Half Anglo from Los Angeles originally) flew to meet with AZs’ Governator Jan Brewer to try and talk her out of signing the bill into law… Just a note… : )

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    rabbit Reply:

    I don’t know, buddy. I don’t think this law will make it. The let me see your papers mentality affects too many citiczens, too. We will see. I think Jan Brewer ended her political carreer. We will just have see how it plays out.

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  4. I plead the 5th!

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  5. Hi,

    This is my first post here. Although I check the site everyday for Narco-news, this is probably the first subject that I can talk about a bit with some knowledge. You see I am an Asian immigrant in Phoenix and this bill is going to impact everyone, including yours truly.

    Personally what bothers me is that every immigrant, and that pretty much means non-whites, will have to carry identification at all times. This means when I go out to gym every morning at 5 am I need to have my driving license and visa papers. Has the Governor seen the visa paper? It is not a key chain card, its a freaking A4 document. But why limit it to gym, if I so much as step out of my house for a stroll, or go to a corner shop a cop can potentially stop me and ask for papers. And if I dont have it I would get a 500$ fine or a 6 month sentence!! How idiotic is that?? In the least they could have said the cops would investigate, call your family/friends/employers and if all looks well you go your way. But no instead they want us to carry identification everytime we step out of the house. How idiotic is that?

    There is another side to this equation though. Lets all be honest there has been a deluge of illegal immigrants from mexico. What in the opinion of the members of this website is the best way to deal with the issue?

    Thank you.

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    YeYo Reply:

    Amnesty for those who can prove they are not here to commit crimes, I assume they are not welcome because they make us all illegal or legal Mexicans look like we are here for somthing other than provide for our familys.Deport all the hardcore criminals and repeat offendors or ask them to leave voluntarly they are in the system anyways.

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    Tu Padre Reply:

    Amnesty doesnt work.

    I have said it before and I will say it again. The US no longer wants Mexican immigrants because they have created their own underskilled work force that they can pay shit wages to.

    People come to the US in drobes because they believe that in the US you can strike it rich. Alot of Paisas go back to their country with New cars, New clothes, and a lot of money to spend. For some they actually made it and achieved the american dream. For most it means that they financed a car and are using their credits cards to pay for the clothes and vacation. It is a house of cards that will eventually crumble.

    The only way to stop illegal immigration is to create a climate that makes people think they are better off staying in their rancho. No Jobs, no handouts, no underworld.

    No Jobs: That means nothing, not picking vegatables, washing cars, selling paletas or selling fruit on the freeway on ramp. Also you cant let them open up their own business.

    No Handouts: That means no welfare for kids born to immigrants, no schools for the kids of immigrants to attend, no medical care.

    No Housing: Dont rent or sell them a house

    No underworld: Dont let them make money by selling drugs or anything else illegal. Zero tolerance, anyone caught in a traffic violation gets tossed out, anyone doing a missdemeanor gets tossed, felonies do time then get tossed.

    You dont have to conduct immigration raids, just concentrate those effort on the fools holding down drug corners.

    Now the question is, does the US have the stomach to actually do it? The Answer is fook NO. Any other efforts to stop illegal immigration is just smoke and mirrors.

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    YeYo Reply:

    Sorry buddy but all that will never happen..It didnt happen to the Irish,Italians,or the Polish when they came looking for a better life for their familys..Instead we took them in and even gave some of them holidays St Patricks Day, Casimir Polaski Day, ect ect..The only reason I believe in my heart that people are making such a big deal out of this is because they way the media percieves Mexicans and because of a certain black president..I understand that people are frustrated and they are starting to look for people to blame a failing country on. To me the only way to help this economy is to find a way to generate money out of somthing that is basically here to stay.I agree alot of the things you stated would definatly work, but is it humane??
    Back in the day when I was younger if someone moved into my neighborhood that I saw as a threat I would go out of my way to make their life as well and their familys life a living hell..But that was not the right thing to do.Its a touchy subject I would love for Mexico to provide jobs or some kind of stability for their people..If you think about it just in sales tax what kind off void that would leave in our economy and when its all said and done we would be the ones paying for their deportation.I am gratefull to be an American Citizen at this point in time because I can just imagine what some of these people go threw.

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    Tu Padre Reply:

    All the people that you mentioned eventually were accepted because they were needed to build railroads, skyscrapers, work in the mines etc. etc. Now with modern technology man power has become obsolete.

    the biggest issue we face is globilization and people dont see it, dont care about it, or they blame the wrong thing. On the Mexico Side along the US border hundreds of manufacturing plants have opened. These are american Companies that provide jobs for Mexicans in Mexico. The problem is that they still pay slave wages so it doesnt help to create shit jobs in mexico because it is more of the same.

    I was driving through the military checkpoint in sonora heading south about 2 years ago. Since I was going south we didnt get inspected but I stopped long enought to take a good look at the traffic going north. The military was conducting inspections on trucks headed north to the US. As they were unloading them I noticed one thing, all the boxes said made in China. I though about this for awhile and came to the following conclusion.

    Their is a huge hole in NAFTA. We have Mexican Sea Ports unloading cargo and transporting it into the US in mexican trucks. Since Mexico has a free trade agreement with the US they are importing this tax free (I Haven’t confirmed this). Taking away jobs from our longshorement and teamsters. Were are our blue collar well paying jobs? Manufacturing is all gone. Most everything gets made in china or some third world country. But now if they unload it in Mexico we loose out in the ports and the tax revenue. If they allow Mexican truck drivers to move it in the US we loose out in the transportation. We are fooked whether they kick out all the mexicans or not.

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    YeYo Reply:

    You know what I just read other sources on this subject in Arizona..I came to the conclusion that illegal aliens at this point in time really have no reason to come here to the US..There aint shit for them here.I dont support the possible racial profiling this will bring to those driving by Arizono or living there but I do understand where theyre comming from.Somthing does have to be done to stop the flow but I aint sure if this is the right thing.

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    rabbit Reply:

    Well, this issue is clouded. I think that the real issue is how this law affects the rest of our 4th ammendment rights. Anyone could have seen the imigration issue coming for miles. The feds should have done something about it long ago. But Arizona’s wild west mentality goes too far. Two wrongs never make a right. This law won’t stand in the end. At least not the way it is written right now.

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    Vincent Hanna Reply:

    someone is already working to be the contractor to create some type of card that you carry, it’ll probably cost $100 (cost you $100), unless the government decides to do the cards themselves, then it’ll cost you$150 and take 8-10 months to get to you LOL. A buddy of mine just went to Prague, he had to carry around his passport with him at all times, the one time he didn’t, they had a checkpoint out, it was an all day ordeal he said. When in Rome…

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  6. Arizona is a disgusting place. They are a laughing stock to other places. Red light cameras, speeding cameras all over the freeways, cops everywhere. In phoenix, they getto birds that fly over the city all night with huge spotlights on them. I feel sorry for the residents of Arizona. All in the name of security, right? I don’t buy that bullshit!! It’s all smoke and mirrors.
    They have been mentioning the murder of the rancher from southern Arizona as a reason. It’s all a little too convenient. The minute men project gets dismantled, some new group is monitoring the border, dead rancher, now this disgusting desecration of the 4th amendment. People, feel sorry for your children that are growing up in a future of uncertanty. If Arizona is a picture of what’s to come in this country, we are all fooked.
    It is the responsibility of every reasonable person to stand up in there comunity to push for meaningful change. This country was founded based on the protection from tirany. My critics have beat my words to death, but in the end, this kind of nonsense is what I preach against. I hope that some of you try to push healthy change in your government.
    I’m not democrat or republican. However, is John Mcain the vision of where you all want to be. Would it be better if we had a militarised border with gun towers and spotlights? Do we want to be like isreal or some other mideast country? This is honestly disgusting.
    The violence in Mexico is beyond words. The damage created by our governments drug war, that is for our own protection, is something that should have been addressed long before now. The violence in Mexico has now become a focal point for every communistic nut job out there,(including some of the bloggers on this site) Jan Brewer? Holly shit, coould you imagine being married to that love!!!? What a scary looing piece she is. She is strait out of a science fiction movie. It’s hard to believe that these are the people that are voted into office to make decisions for the rest of us.
    What’s even scarier is the fact that the voting population in Arizona are retirees that are transplants from everywhere other than Arizona. The same voters that have kept the biggest lying, thief in the country as sheriff, Joe Arpio!!! Arizonans, wake the fook up. There has been too much failed policy there already!!! Push for something that works!! That imigration law definately isn’t it.
    Good luck! Screw that place!

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    Gordo Reply:

    You must be from California!

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  7. The real question is, do any of you trust your local law enforcement? That’s almost funny.

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  8. I applaud Arizona Governor Jan Brewer. Something had to be done. The Federal Government was sitting on its ass…..as usual. She took action to protect Arizona & its REAL CITIZENS.

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    rabbit Reply:

    What you said is total bullshit. You and people like you are part of the problem. A solution is not the problem. Brewer is an idiot, that does not give a damn about anyones rights. I don’t believe this law will stand the courts. So idiots like you will never be able to preach your stupidity.

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    yanawana Reply:

    to protect its REAL CITIZENS??? fook you sound paranoid…sorry for taking up all the oxygen around you…white people, mexicans, asians, blacks…we all breathe the same air, take in the same sunshine, eat food, create life, work, sleep, shit, piss, love, hate, get frustrated, depressed…we are all human on this planet no matter what some politician says..nobody is illegal. wait till it happens to you or your family members…someone designates you as sub human see how you like it

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    Fenix Reply:

    If you don’t wanna go to jail, then don’t enter the US illegally. 70% of Arizona voters, aka “Real Citizens”, approve this new, much needed law. And for the Mexican government to say it threatens diplomatic relations, well that’s the biggest bullshit I’ve ever heard. Those corrupt government bastards just don’t wanna deal with Mexico’s problems, so they want to flush the toilet on the US.

    I have no problem with Mexican’s coming to the US, but don’t break the law & enter illegally & expect American taxpayers to foot all of your bills….

    And I’ll point this out. I know most Mexican’s are coming to the US due to the violence from the drug trade. I don’t blame “those” people. But come legally. Well, I feel this is mostly the US Government’s fault. If the Federal Government would do their jobs & stop sending money to Mexico, but instead send troops, there wouldn’t be an out of control illegal immigration problem.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    70% of the Arizonans that are the voing majority are not even from Arizona. They are the retirees that live in the retirement communities. Don’t pretend that the majority want this law. That’s bullshit.

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    Fenix Reply:

    But Rabbit, you’re missing the point. They are REAL CITIZENS. They live in Arizona LEGALLY & actually have REAL rights there. Doesn’t matter if they are from Arizona or not. People from all over the Country want something done about the Border. 60% of the COUNTRY, that is the United States, want this Arizona bill to passed.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    Dude, that’s bullshit. Who is this 60% you are talking about? Almost everyone where I live is is talking about what a travesty this bill is. Don’t start talking for every one else. I don’t live in Arizona!!! People here think that state is crazy!

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    Raul Reply:

    aparte de ke el aparente 70 % no son nativos de arizona, es facil olvidar ke hay un gran porcentaje de “reales ciudadanos” ke no kieren votar, llamense naturalizados, inmigrantes legales o simplemente de ascendencia extranjera, mexicana si asi lo kieren ver. Ke tiene ke ver esto? ke la verdadera “verdad” (valga la redundancia) no esta a flote. la historia la escribe siempre el hombre blanco. “filas mas cortas en ER” por favor, con 8.5 millones de gentes, siendo menos de .5 millones indocumentados, no veo como un lugar en la fila sea como para vitorearlo a toda voz. los doctores no son estupidos y tienen prioridades. es solo una migaja de de toodo lo ke se pretende comer la gobernadora. se atragantara y vomitara a kien este junto con ella.. by the way, I do belive illegal immigration is a problem, but you dont have to treat (all of) them like criminals. . .

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  9. Speaking of trusting our law enforcement, el universal published this week a judge in Mexico sentenced a zeta leader that never made the pgr most wanted to 101 years. On the other hand, the Houston paper published that a US District Court sentenced Osiel Cardenas Guillen, the man responsible for the zeta cancer, to 25 years. What am I missing here?

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  10. @ Rabbit. don’t stroke out on me brother, lol. Let it go. You know in the end, it an’t about nothing, it will be found unconstitutional. I fell out on Arizona when they made a law that when you were positive for a drug in your blood stream, it was posession of that drug. I did state time in New Mexico in the early and mid 80s and talked with several people from there then. I always felt like it was a state to go around, not through on the way to Vegas. I gave that up and just flew. But seriously, New Mexico isn’t much better. I have a cabin in Colorado and hate to drive through NM. I can’t avoid getting a ticket everytime I drive in that state. By the way, don’t forget to send me an email.

    Ya’ll know me by now, I have to talk about Juarez. Six federal police and one municiple officer gunned down in cold blood on the streets, wow, They suspect it is a retaliation hit for a drug bust the day before but at this time I can’t find much to get a read on the bust so how do you decide who did it? As clean as it was, it kinda sounds like the La Linea, but what the bust sounded like was not that big, it didn’t make papers so it could be Astecas. But then of course, it could be the Sinaloens that got busted and they want to set the feds straight on who to bust and who not to. Or it could be another frame on the Juarez Cartel. Or could it be other cops getting rid of problem cops?

    You know how the old saying goes, “only time will tell.” In Juarez. father time never talks, nobody does really. You hear what “they” want you to hear.

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    rabbit Reply:

    Il’m trying to be calm. This law is so insane. New Mexico is a crazy state, too. I always say any state that I 40 runs through is a shit hole. But realise, the midwest thinks that that state is a joke. I have attended 2 funerals in the past 3 weeks. it was the topic of conversation in 2 states I visited. Even the conservatives were saying they were worried about the message this law sent. Its bad news. But as usual, you are wise and I respect your objectivity. I have tunnel vision most of the time. I’m cynical. But I do agree with you.

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  11. @ Fenix, think about our constitution and our rights. States cannot cross over and make law that infringes on constitutional rights. Think about it man. What could be next? Maybe a strong gun control lobby could infringe on our rights to bear arms in certain states. The constitution is a good one, let the 50 states abide by it, not 49. If they put the wrong controls on guns, we could end up like the Mexican citizens who cannot protect themselves because they are not allowed the right to bear arms.

    You confuse me. Sometimes you have good stuff but other times it seems you do not have much of a social conscience and talk out of your neck and don’t think about what you are saying. You need to think about your audiance on this site too. There aren’t many John Waynes here. Have some respect!

    The loose federal approach by the US on immigration is the way it is and the way it will be for a real good reason. The rich, that run the country do not want minimun wage to go up, therefore it will stay the way it is. Ignore illegal immigration and save a buck is the way they see it, and that will be the way it is.

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    yanawana Reply:

    http://lapolaka.com/2010/04/24/los-carteles-se-cuelgan-otra-medalla/

    sicarios shot up a funeral wake and killed family members. a drunk accused the cops of carrying out the killing, they tried to arrest him and the onlookers intervened….the people are pissed, tired of all the killing…

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    Fenix Reply:

    You’re right TRC about a few of your points, but the Federal Government, people that we elect to lead & protect our Country, aren’t doing anything about the problem on the Border & the illegal immigration. Only until Arizona decided to put the law into effect did Barak & this democrats decide they better do something fast or they will lose all of the elections. There has to be something done about people entering the US illegally. They want to come, enter legally.

    This wouldn’t even be an issue if there wasn’t so much violence going on at the Border, on BOTH sides of the fence. That is what Americans are afraid of, other than all of the tax dollars we pay being given out freely to more people that don’t deserve it.

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  12. As an immigrated American living in Mexico these past 16 years, I have carried my documentation in my wallet (it’s passport sized) every day. It says in the book that I have to. No one ever asked me for it, but if they had – I am happy to show it. I don’t see the big deal here. If you have gone through the process to be in the US (or MX) legally, you are proud to prove you’ve done that.

    Cheryl

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    yanawana Reply:

    Cheryl, you are correct. I totally agree with you. I was talking to one of my friends tonight and he pointed out that dark skinned people in the United States have been profiled ever since he can remember. what the state of arizona is doing is basically telling you they can LEGALLY profile your dumb ass ..it’s the law, dagnabit! but also remember it is not against the law to be an American in Mexico…when there’s a recession they dont kick out the foreigners…immigrated or not…

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    rabbit Reply:

    Sorry, but this is a big deal. The let me see your papers mentality should have stopped with Nazi germany. Not to mention that our constitution was created to prevent this kind of abuse of power. You are basically giving cops the right to stop whoever they want to ask for their papers, which is creating cause to harass citiczens. Wake up people. Be concerned about your own liberties.

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  13. The bill is racist and has little hope of surviving a court challenge.

    It’s been said here before; remember as you fly over the homes, and malls, and resorts, and golf courses of the Phoenix metro-plex that all of it was build using migrant muscle. For generations the “business interests” that built Phoenix, Scottsdale, Tucson, etc hired every available migrant no-papers-asked. The boom is over, the jobs have dried like a desiccated carcass, and the gringo population is a fearful, ignorant, ungrateful, hysterical mob.

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  14. Isn’t that the truth!

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  15. People are racist, that is they way human nature is. We all have racist thoughts and feeling, it shows either positively or negatively in how we express ourselves which also reflects intelligence or ignorance. Usually it comes out with; are we polite to others, do we care about others, do we treat others with dignity and respect?

    At any point in my life, I have had friends from many groups. I value those friendships as much or more than those in my own group because there is so much to learn. I think what I get most from those relationships is that we often pick on each other and make fun of each others group. I really believe that if good friends learn about themselfs and other groups this way and you become friends for life. Is this racist, the schollar would say yes. Is it healthy, “yes.”

    We have rich consevatives in office trying to protect the rich retired in Arizona. That is where they get their money. Why not create a big splash to get the US Government to do more to protect the rich retired people in Arizona and a consevative politition could not see this more clearly. The US will shoot this bill down as unconstitional the first time it is challenged.

    Really, if you think about it, those rich old republicans do have a good reason for concerned about what is happening in Mexico and the way the media portrays the spillover of crime into the US. Sometimes it is so explicit, it concerns me a great deal.

    I like what Bowden says in his new book which goes something like this, “I expect my government to do more about the problems in Mexico that it has created through NAFTA and its rediculous drug laws. “I expect more out of my Government.”

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  16. I have encountered many customs agents and border patrol agents that look more hispanic and speak worse english than plenty of undocumented immigrants I know. I can’t wait for the day one of them misplaces their wallet and gets pulled over for speeding and can’t show any proof of them being here legally on the spot.

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    lsabeIIa Reply:

    I don’t have a response for your comment. I just can’t believe people like you exist.

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    Curious Reply:

    Why?? Because I am not going to feel bad when a border patrol agent or custom agent who fits the profile of an undocumented immigrant gets pulled over off duty and doesn’t have any proof of his/her citizenship? No, sorry, but I won’t feel sorry for them, because they won’t feel sorry for the people they pull over and thrown in jail or deport, even if they are here legally but happened to forget their documents.

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    Isabella Reply:

    Point taken. I guess if you put it that way, I hope they get deported too. I think… I don’t know. I thought you were only saying that because they’re Hispanic. Never mind I guess.

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    Curious Reply:

    I guess I don’t wish anyone getting deported or anything, but I think it would open people’s eyes that even our law enforcement can fit the description. And I know first hand personally of a few customs agents and several border patrol agents who happen to be my neighbors that are from mexico and speak english with a very thick accent, not that I have anything against them, we are good friends, but I think if a police officer pulled them over and they had no i.d’s they would very well be s.o.l.

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  17. http://www.elpasotimes.com/opinion/ci_14950508

    3% of $125 million actually made it to the border in Texas. How much made it in Arizona?

    This issue makes for theater and that’s about it.

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  18. Congratulations to Arizona for doing something about a problem which is costing us billions of dollars. Since the federal government is not enforcing immigration laws the states have to take action, one just needs to look at how much money staes like california waste on schools/education, law enforcement, jails, welfare and other social services for illegal aliens.

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    rabbit Reply:

    You freaken idiot. They will be spending even more now. All you trols that hit this site, most of you sound retarded and very uninformed. Get lost loser.

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    johnny Reply:

    hey havent heard from u rabbit whats up hit me up

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    johnny Reply:

    RABBIT SEND ME UR EMAIL HIT ME UP

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    rabbit Reply:

    I’ll chirp you as soon as I get home.

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    johnny Reply:

    alright rabbit ill be expecting ur call take care

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    Frank Reply:

    I didn’t realize this was rabit’s site. Prove your point that illegal aliens aren’t costing us billions of dollars, otherwise you just prove yourself to be retarded and uninformed. comprendes?

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  19. Prove that they are Frank. Otherwise, you don’t make any sense yourself.

    Let me guess, you’re going to blame the state of the economy on immigrants too? Or should we take a good look at the thousands of fools that live outside their means and didn’t give a damn about paying their taxes during the Bush administration. While we’re at it, lets blame immigrants for every fook up that the Bush administration did over the 8 miserable years that Bush was in office. We should, after all they are to blame for the failure that is the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Do you understand that we took out Iraq for Iran, do you understand what a complete fook up that was? Clearly, from your comments, I can tell you don’t understand, because you probably don’t use your brain regularly. So you know, thanks to the United States government (during the Bush administration), Iran is a powerhouse in the Middle East.

    While you’re contemplating your mindless comments, you should go suck George W. Bush’s daisy. I’m sure an imbecile like you voted for an imbecile like him.

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    PJ Reply:

    You yap too much. Shut your hole once in awhile…

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    lsabeIIa Reply:

    Actually, I don’t care who you are. You’re probably just a nobody, like Frank. So, you should also suck Bush’s daisy. That’s probably all you’re good for anyway.

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    YeYo Reply:

    LOL..Jerry!!! Jerry!!!!..Bush and daisy along with Suck in the same sentence is always funny..Gettem Isabella!!

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    frank Reply:

    Isabella focus the topis is immigration not the war in Iraq, why not mention that Obama still has our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Focus, Focus

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    lsabeIIa Reply:

    Because if he takes them out of there, we fooking die, stupid ass! Who the hell got them there in the first place? My president is only stopping the bleeding, but your stupid president caused this. The topic is immigration and your blaming immigrants on billions of dollars lost…. GO fook YOURSELF AND YOUR MISERABLE fookING LIFE. This BILL is going to cost millions and not even for the fooking state of Arizona, it’s going to cost millions for the federal government and in a couple of months the Supreme Court is going to have to clear this whole thing up. It’s a waste of time and money. My money, because I pay my taxes.

    Listen, I know your life sucks, but don’t go blaming people simply because you have no one to blame, but yourself.

    By the way, you should be in Afgahnistan, we all voted last night and we think you should go.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    One of the things that makes you so stupid is, how much do you think that it will cost t arrest, house , feed and cloth these so called ilegal immigrants? This is what I don’t understand about what you say.

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  20. WHO ARE YOU?

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    T_R_C Reply:

    @ Isabella, You go girl. Good to see you active again!

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    nacorider Reply:

    well the discussion degenerates again. so let’s add to it. isabella is a widely known homosexual man that spends too much time on the internet fishing for fights.

    now there is an intelligent argument for you…

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    rabbit Reply:

    Ok idiot. How much do you think it will cost to arrest and house all these people, not to mention where they will house all these people. The corrections system is alrready overwhelmed. You are uniformed. This bill is filthy, not to mention unconstitutional for the rest of us. Go trol somwhere else.

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  21. Apparently the spanking you got on this site a couple months back didn’t sink in. I don’t like the way you talk to people and i’m not here to read your bullshit political commentary so shut the fook up.

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    lsabeIIa Reply:

    Yeah, because my “political commentary” is bullshit, right? It doesn’t matter that it’s TRUE, but clearly you’re upset because it’s the truth. I could quote a movie right now, that’s how pathetic this is, but I’m not going to.

    I’m going to enlighten you a little, even though it’s probably a waste of my time.

    The bill is a complete waste of time and money. From what I can tell Gov. Brewer knew that before signing it. It’s ALL ABOUT POLITICS. It’s ALWAYS ABOUT POLITICS. It’s the same reason why Gov. Christ (in Florida) vetoed a recent unpopular bill related to teachers in Florida public schools. These are the people YOU vote for, people who know that the decisions they make (popular or not), will WASTE taxpayers’ money. I’m not sure how Arizona survives, but whether it does so through federal funding or not – it’s a waste of money.

    Do you want to know what we do here in Florida? Cause it’s the same shit. You don’t want to hear it, but I don’t care. Because I end up reading your stupid comments anyway.

    Whenever we have a stupid forfeiture case, whether it’s 20K or 100K, my boss makes me review hundreds of arrest affidavits in order to record the people who are stopped by any given trooper in Florida, or the state trooper(s) we’re dealing with. Guess what I find everytime? It never fails… Male, Hispanic and Medium to Dark complexion and tons of African Americans. So, we write a nice letter asking for our client’s money back, reminding the county attorney in the redneck counties in Florida that he really doesn’t want us to bring up the race card. Cause we won’t hesitate to bring it up and when we do, it’s going to be full force. Needless to say, we always get our money back + attorneys fees. So, yeah, that was a waste of time and money. But it’s not our money and it wasn’t our call, so we don’t care, afterall it generates more business for lawyers.

    But I care and that’s why I vote every time I have to. I even vote for the judges that I have to eventually deal with. At the end of the day my vote does count and that’s why it’s important to vote.

    Outside of Arizona there are 49 other states and a hell of a lot of Hispanics who reside in those states, a serious boycott will not benefit Arizona right now, not with this economy. Lets say I had to go to AZ (for whatever reason), given the situation I would go out of my way to fly into New Mexico and drive into Arizona. Why? Well, since I’m freaking Hispanic, I’m probably going to have to carry my fooking documents on me. Not only that, but I would also go out of my way and buy whatever I’m planning to eat in New Mexico, so that I don’t have to buy anything in Arizona. It would be a freaking hassle, but one worth dealing with.

    Is Gov. Brewer going to carry around her birth certificate on her too? Or is that ONLY NECESSARY for those of us who don’t look like redneck cowboys who watch Fox news and belong to right-wing extremist groups?

    Can someone confirm if everyone will be carrying their birth certificates or citizenship certificates on them in Arizona, or if it’s only the people who LOOK LIKE THEY SHOULD CARRY THEM AT ALL TIMES.

    On that note, the state of Arizona is lucky that I’m not planning to pratice law in Arizona, but I am plannning to pratice in all federal courts, so maybe AZ is not that lucky after all.

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    Oscar Reply:

    Luckily I have a scroll wheel on my mouse, so I can quickly scroll past these long winded boring comments. I highly recommend the Logitech FX-80 mouse it works fantastic.

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    vinotinto Reply:

    Isabella keep revealing the truth, thanks.

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    Thomas Lad Reply:

    Arizona is home to highway checkpoints run by the US Border Patrol. Everyone hates them, even the BP. They are a waste of time and only exist as PR for the BP brass. EVERYONE is checked. EVERYONE SUBMITS. Why? Because of fear. Failure to comply means you are a suspect and they will tear apart your car. Yes it sucks. It will be this way as long as you let the Bas**ards get away with it!

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    Thomas Lad Reply:

    No. The only document you have to show is a drivers license. Don’t have one? You already broke the law and now we will ask for more ID. Real simple people. Not rocket science.

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    YeYo Reply:

    I dont like the way you talk to people either.

    So shut the fook up and dont read her shit if you dont like it..PJ

    Dont come on here disrespecting anybody especially a hispanic young lady that is taking the time to educate herself and make a diffrence in htis world..

    Puto+Joto= PJ…Yesssss!!!!..I figured it out…The jig is up..Your a homo..

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    Rabbit Reply:

    Lol!!!!!!!!

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    nacorider Reply:

    and you know this how?

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    YeYo Reply:

    Dude your name is NACO RIDER..lol..I dont think you have room to say shit..Naco means somthing in Mexico..FYI

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    Rabbit Reply:

    Sounds like you are here to show people you are an ignorant racist.

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  22. GO ISABELLA GO! Tell these numbnuts whats up!!! It hadn’t even been signed and it felt like it was in effect ,last week on my back home from my other home in bellisimo sonoyta sonora I got to the reten and prick migra made me get out and searched my truck ,now I’m as light skinned as they come but just cuz I had los canelos a todo volumen this asshole got me out the truck and the three others that were with me asked for documentation and even after he did a little quick investigating tried to say my passport and the others were fake now I dunno if you guys have seen these passport cards I think you’d have better look counterfitting gold or money before these epassports

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  23. And not only that when he wasn’t satisfied with the results el hijo the toda su reputisssssiiissssiiiima bruja perra bomba madre nos metio ala perrera(there big vans where they put all the “illegals” if you can call them that) and took us from gila bend all the way back to why arizona they put us in the corralon with all the pollos and burreros(un saludo pa todos los compas ke taban ayi otro pedo viejones!!) Anyway so they take us inside this shit smelling office and fingerprinted us and took copies of our identifications fbi background checks the works on us all to come to the conclusion (5 hours later) that we were all bonified gringos ni un fook you or thanks o a chihuahuar a tu madre back in the van like nada ever happened ,o and I forgot when of my passengers was a female and poor girl was frisked by a male agent so much for fookin justice and ethical and proper behavior but hey she handt even signed the bill yet wonder what wuld have happened if that would’ve been today

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    nacorider Reply:

    do you have pictures? it would really add to the narrative. movie rights? an epic screenplay. and think, the law isn’t enforce yet. did you call isabella for help. isabella is a man.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    Idiot!!!

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  24. Oh and if my spelling is a little off pardon and excuse mua my fingers are just too big for this phone keyboard !! Michel macizo el jale keep it up!!!

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  25. Did Isabella use the word “daisy” ? Im shocked and have no comment but…… LMFAO!!!!!

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    YeYo Reply:

    I love it when they talk dirty..Drift..I just had to stand up for her..lol

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    lsabeIIa Reply:

    I missed a c in both practices… What? Because I’m a girl I can’t join in on the daisyfighting?

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    Gallo Reply:

    Just don’t get upset if we have to use the female c word sometime :-)

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    YeYo Reply:

    How did you make a smiley face?? :)

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    YeYo Reply:

    AWWWWWWWWWWww SHIIETTTTTTTTTTT.

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    YeYo Reply:

    :(

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    Bella Reply:

    Hahahahaha… I just read your comments. We’re adults here. We can use every C word in the book :-)

    I am not offended by anything you guys say. I think you guys are hilarious and I enjoy your comments.

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    YeYo Reply:

    ;)

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    Gallo Reply:

    Just like when you first discover your peepee.

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    YeYo Reply:

    Exactly bro..

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  26. el mini 6 muerto!

    http://www.periodicosiglo.com/2010/04/25/seguridad/balean-a-policias-de-zapopan/

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    YeYo Reply:

    Vergaz!!!!!..Why fight to live if your just living to die..

    That little dude was meant to die early in life..Le voi a escribir un corrido al amár y que lo token con acordion y tuba none of that other bullshit..

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    cesar Reply:

    mini6 was not 22 was he? he was much younger que no? and im sure he wouldve be reffered to as nephew of JT n M1 on the note

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    drift Reply:

    look at the header and under the photo, why lie?

    http://www.metroflog.com/mujerbonita_cln

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    cesar Reply:

    no im not saying its false or its untrue, what i was asking is just clarification…

    also ive seen multiple sources online that have identified mini6 with another name..idk if its a lack of communication with media outlets or maybe he had multiple identifications with him

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  27. Gonna be awesome when this tanks major portions of the AZ economy, too.

    And you morons have the audacity to paint yourselves as anti-big government.

    Christ. Laughingstocks of the world, AZ.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    I agree. This may get comical.

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  28. OMG, Devry University’s most proud alumna is back yapping it up again, I thought we had lost her for good.

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    Isabella Reply:

    More like UM, daisysucker. And maybe Georgetown, if I get between a 165 and a 170 on my LSAT.

    You’re fooking lame, as usual of course.

    Guys: I apologize for my use of the work “daisy” I felt it was necessary and appropriate.

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    Vincent Hanna Reply:

    Wait, you still haven’t even taken the LSAT yet? I was under the impression by the way you were speaking to everyone that you had aced the LSAT and you were geared up to go magna cum from your current JD class. Nevermind then, I can’t waste my time with you, you’re even more pathetic than I thought, well I know you do a lot of pathetic stuff, but this is the tip, hahaha, now I have to ask this, have you ever even been to Mexico before?

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    Isabella Reply:

    No. Have you?

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    JrMaFia Reply:

    My best friend goes to gtown law excellent school and fun party town

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    Isabella Reply:

    My dream school! I’m going to apply, but I’m willing to go anywhere I’m accepted.

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  29. arizona dont need no mesicans poluting our land and children with the pots.
    jesus gave us america to rule just like he gave the land to the jew

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    YeYo Reply:

    I hate MESICANS!!!!!!..Ride on Pure White Christian me and you can get along..Lets get on the highway and look for some roadkill and we can discuss out hatered towards everybody while grillen some coon…Man o man I play a mean banjo/fidle I can play all the kentucky blue grass you can hear..WHITE POWER!!

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    Isabella Reply:

    What the hell are mesicans and pots? That’s what I want to know.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    If this is what being a white Christian is, I would be ashamed to step out my house, after I had sex with my sister.

    I am a proud white man. Never would I let something so tasteless come out of my mouth. Some of you white trailer trash idiots need to get a fooken job and mind your owne business. Why don’t you try to do some of the back breaking work the Mexicans do on a dayly basis. Most of you lazy white trash fookers can’t even see your dicks, cuz your fat ass is too busy sitting around minding every ones business but your own.

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    ilegal Reply:

    would you like to meet Jesus in person?

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    Rabbit Reply:

    For sure, Dude. This fooken guy has life all fooked up!

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    johnny Reply:

    i ditto that rabb so many fooks on here talking and dont know shit about anything

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    nacorider Reply:

    and your mamma told you that you are a pure white christian. gullible……….

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    T_R_C Reply:

    Where did ya’ll find these guys. This guy must be from Arkansas and his father is his uncle and his grandfather.

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  30. Putos. these whiteboys get brave when they pass a filthy law…id like to see a cop get in my face about this bullshit law…they’re only empowered cause we let them be…they have none. out of touch with reality. they lash out with hate. let’s hit back with love. i got love right here at the end of my fist. boy it’s frustrating to live within the confines of a settler squatter colony turned nation state. but it will fall. one day it will fall….the earth rumbles, the earth shakes…now that’s real POWER. TONANTZIN

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  31. they teach their children to hate and to be scared of everything. no wonder they feel alone in the universe. not wanting to face their alienation they turn around and destroy what is around them. they have no god, no love. only greed only hate. they hate themselves. i’m all for love cause I have children but these people are totally disconnected. i feel sorry for them. they need a beat down.in the belly of the beast

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  32. People come to this country looking for a better life. The one they leave in MX and SouthAmerica is fooked, no jobs, no rule of law, no future. Man you’d think people would come with a different mindset wanting to follow rules, wanting to be better. But no they’ve still have that “old country” mindset thinking that they have all the right answers.

    BULLSHIT! Follow the rules! Learn english!

    Sure there are bad cops and corrupt politicians, just like there are bad illegals that rape and kill innocent people.

    If you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    So in other words, it’s ok if a cop pulls you over and searches your car and asks for your papers cuz you are doing nothing wrong? Dude, come on, this country was founded on a mans given right to be protected from tirany. This law is completely against fundamental reasoning, not to mention constitional reasoning.

    This country was built on the backs of imigrants. Unfortunately there are bad seeds everywhere. But to pass a law that stereo types everuyone, makes every person a suspect, that’s going too far. Arizona is a crazy state. There are some good cops there that do their job and then go home. And there are others that eat and breath it. The authority complex is a rough personality. This where the rest of us are going to feel this law. The give me your papers mentality is something that this country should never permit. Where does it end?

    El Flaco, be reasonable. Your words make you apear ignorant.

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  33. I never said I was in law school, in fact I mentioned that my best friend is already in law school. You guys assumed I was and I’m not sure if I ever confirmed it or not.

    But what’s your point about going to Mexico?

    I’ve already stated that I recently became interested in Mexico and the U.S. Mexican border due to the Zambada-Niebla trial, that’s how I found the BR. I don’t need to reiterate anything that I’ve already confirmed.

    Am I shocked by the kind of animosity that migrants and mostly Hispanics deal with in Arizona and the other states near the U.S border, fook yeah I am. Perhaps I sheltered myself too much and most of the time I can’t believe what I read, especially the comments that are clearly racists, of course my personal insults and equally baseless retorts don’t help either. I mostly do that out of utter frustration.

    On a positive note, you have to understand where I come from. I live in Miami and we speak English and Spanish here. I’m happy to translate for tourists whenever it’s necessary; in fact, my best friend’s mom had to translate for Hulk Hogan once (it was pretty cool). I am deeply proud of my heritage and I’m a major foreign film buff. So along with being fluent in Spanish and English, I also speak un po’di Italiano (thanks to all the Federico Fellini films) and I wish I could master French and German too. Subtitles suck ass.

    In any event, I feel that diversity is awesome and I truly enjoy learning new things from different cultures. It’s not that I think I’m better because I’m so open to diversity, I’m just extremely curious and I enjoy absorbing everything. It gives me a deeper understanding of humanity and I understand that the world around me is far more complex than most people think it is.

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  34. @isabella. I’m sure you have now gained the approval of rabbit and the rest of his boys with your language and passion. If you cant beat them…

    @rabbit. No doubt, you’ve just exposed some ignorance. Personal attacks on Jan Brewer as if Napolitano was some kind of beauty queen.

    First, IF you are a citizen , you do not need ANY documents to prove you are a citizen. Now, if you are coming from the border area northbound in a van with seventeen other people who do not have command of the spanish language and look and smell like they have been hiking all night, then as a police officer, you should be able to detain the van load of midnight hikers until the Border Patrol can question them further.

    If your afraid of being detained by a cop on immigration issues and not being able to talk your way out of it within two seconds, then you might be a an illegal I suspect. If your a recent LEGAL immigrant , then you know you must carry your passport/ visa with you at all times and should be proud to flash your green card. Try going to any other country without proper documents. Yeah yeah, I know modern day America was built by ILLEGAL aliens. Great, ill just break into your home and since you were kind enough to not call the authorities because you felt sorry for me and I washed your windows while i was in there, guess now ill just stay in your home, and wash your windows every once in a while. Hope that I don’t cut myself or break on arm cause guess who will have to bandage me up and pay for it Mr Kind Homeowner. Don’t be a racist, let me come over and crash there awhile with my family.

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    Isabella Reply:

    Man, it’s so easy to rattle your chain. But I like where you’re going with this.

    I’m getting a kick out of the thorough analogies as to who needs their documents on them at all times and who doesn’t need to carry them.

    Now, since you mentioned the seventeen people in a van that, in your words, “smell like they’ve been hiking all day.” Let’s say I rent a rickety van with my family and it just so happens that we’ve been hiking all day, if that would be considered sketchy and suspicious, should we feel like we should have our documents on us or simply because we’re U.S. citizens we should worry? What if I decide to go hiking at night? That’s also considered suspicious, should I refrain from going hiking period? Should I tell my family, that perhaps hiking is off limits in Arizona, because we would run the risk of being stopped and interrogated for simply looking and smelling like illegal immigrants?

    Also, should we ask people in Miami to carry around their documents at the beach?

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    axtexican Reply:

    Yes, it would be considered suspicious and you deserve to be questioned, that is if you are hiking at night time with seventeen people in the border area. If the Border Patrol does not stop you then i would say they are not doing they’re job and we should all grab our ankles.

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    Isabella Reply:

    So, I’m not allowed to go hiking at night in Arizona? Is that what you’re trying to tell me?

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    Isabella Reply:

    I forgot to add, according to Axtexican, if you LOOK like an illegal immigrant who’s been hiking all day long and you smell like one too, than you “deserve to be questioned.”

    Day or night, “You deserve to be questioned.”

    Yeah, no further questions.

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    drift Reply:

    the Defense rests………

    lol

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    Isabella Reply:

    Thank you Drift!

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    aztexan Reply:

    exactly WHO do you believe deserves to be questioned by our officials( besides muslim looking people hiking the peloncillo mountains at 4am). If you use the term racist about now, you’ve lost the argument. If we lived next to china, a van load of chinese near the border would be suspect and deserve to be questioned. If we lived next to poland then the same applies. Just like mexican border patrol can spot a Somalian coming up the Chiapas border better than anyone.

    since the defense rest , you got me, you win.

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    Bella Reply:

    Dude, you never had a freaking argument. Seriously, have you read the comments you submit???

    “Look and smell like they have been hiking all night, then as a police officer, you should be able to detain the van load of midnight hikers until the Border Patrol can question them further.”

    “You deserve to be questioned, that is if you are hiking at night time with seventeen people in the border area.”

    Aztexan: I don’t have to call you racist; based on your commentary, YOU ARE RACIST. You’re trying to make an example by using China and Asians, or in your limited terms Asian “looking” people, but I really doubt you would be able to point out China on a map. Do you honestly think anyone would take a Neanderthal like you seriously? Hell NO.

    Thanks for playing along. Now you can go back to watching Fox news.

    I wish you all the best in your miserable existance.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    I’m reading what you have said, but it does not make sense. Are you a cop? Only a cop would continue this. Here is the problem from a U.S. native. I don’t want people stopping me to find out if I am an ileegal imigrant, asking for my papers. I don’t want them using that as a reason to find something else to harrass me for. The let me see your papers mentality is somewhere this country has fought against since it’s conception. That is why we have a constitution.

    Also, this country has more people incarcerated than any where else on earth. Is this country going to continue to lock people up for petty offenses and spend our tax dolars to do it. I, for one, don’t want my tax funds being spent to incarcerate amd ruin peoples families. What a bunch of communist fooks some of you are.

    I know this law as it is now will be struck down in the federal courts. So all of you commie fooks watch and see how stupid you all are.

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    YeYo Reply:

    Yes he is a cop..And so are seberal of the fookers..They are so blind because of their pride that they dont see the harm the cause to others..fook them.

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    YeYo Reply:

    Several..Correction

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    Rabbit Reply:

    Lol!

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    rabbit Reply:

    Damn, Jan, janet, al the same shit! I am only speaking out against an establishment that is out of liine. All you communist fookers that atack me for defending my own rights, you know where you can go. Or just come meet me, we’ll talk bout it in person. That would be fun.

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  35. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAEZ966MfuM now the Gulf Cartel is part of The League Of Justice, lol!! give me a fooking break, pinchis hipocritasy ojetes.

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  36. seeing all those daisysuckers in the comments reminded me of this……….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxL9Fuz5eZA

    this one is for just laughs, im not racist but just a little humor i cant stand some of the bullshit being said in some of these comments

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsdyc0DQFrA

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  37. Fox News just said 4 additional states are looking at passing illegal immigration bills similar to Arizona’s. They didn’t say which states though.

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    Isabella Reply:

    Just a guess: New Mexico, Texas, Nevada and I can’t think of the fourth one. But I’m going to be livid if it’s Florida. LIVID.

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    drift Reply:

    Maybe New York? i mean they got all sorts of races over there? or am i going to be told otherwise……………..

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    Fenix Reply:

    California? Mississippi?

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    JrMaFia Reply:

    Im in new york your not kidding we really do have ever race here…………………Mexicans, columbians, dominicans, jamaicans, arabs, italians, irish, albaians

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    Bella Reply:

    Sorry guys, my comments are getting stuck.

    You’re from NY… I LOVE NEW YORK!!! But that’s because I’m a city girl at heart.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    “New York City, get a rope!”

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    T_R_C Reply:

    Don’t think Texas will. Our cost for jails and prisons are way to high already and we have jobs here anyway. We need people willing to work. The radio stations are laughing and slamming Arizona over this here. New Mexico, maybe.

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  38. POEPLE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ALL KNOW THIS BILL WILL NOT TAKE EFFECT, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IT WILL DIE. AND THE POEPLE WHO HAVE A HARD-ON FOR GETTING RID OF HISPANICS IN THIS COUNTRY, WILL NEVER SEE THEIR DREAM REALIZED, BOTH SIDES HAVE SOME VALID POINTS, BUT THE ANTI IMMIGRANT CROWD AT THEIR CORE ARE ANGRY AT THE FACT THAT WHITE PEOPLE WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,WILL BE A MINORITY. THEY TEND TO FORGET THE MAJORITY OF HISPANICS ARE INDEED CITIZENS. AND THEY WONT FORGET WHICH PARTY STANDS WHERE.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    I know you are right. Be glad for that!!

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  39. [...] to the incompetent leadership of Governor Jan Brewer, Arizona is broke. “…This poor state is facing a $2.6 billion deficit in 2011; last month, the legislature voted $1.1 billion in cuts, [...]

  40. I have seen a lot of threats, name-calling, hate, insults and racism in most of the comments here. And some antagonistic shots from obvious anglo racists, who should just be ignored. I think John Wayne, cowboys, ranchers, law enforcement officers and law-abiding citizens AND law-abiding legal foreigners are all okay. They are entitled to their opinions of wanting the rule of law honored and enforced in the United States. Now, I hear vandalism, threats and physical attacks are occurring in Arizona. Many of the comments show an utter lack of respect for established law. Arizona’s action is NOT about “keeping the brown man down”…it is about making a stand for established laws that politicians continually thwart and ignore, tying the hands of the Border Patrol and ICE, etc. There IS such a thing as an illegal person within the USA, whether they be from Mexico or Poland. They have broken established US law, knowingly, by entering without legal documents. Many have done much more breaking of laws (smuggling mota, coke, meth, etc, burglarizing, stealing identities) in the process. I personally know many Hispanic people who are proud of the stand Arizona is taking, and hope many more states will do the same. I personally think this will be challenged in court, and we’ll just have to see how that goes. But Arizona is desperate to get some needed control of the border, and I hope they get it soon. I expect some pretty vitriolic responses for what I have just posted, based on what I have already seen, but I feel I am entitled to my opinion. I have not attacked anybody personally, and am not racist. I just believe in the rule of law, and think our laws are pretty reasonable and should be honored. Stop the hate, and respectfully debate.

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    Bella Reply:

    Those people you know are not real Hispanics. I don’t know what they are, but they are definitely not Hispanic.

    As to “keeping the brown man down,” I have no words, except for the fact that I am disgusted you, whatever you are. Do you honestly expect a serious response when you say something mindless and blatantly ignorant of that nature. Is that what people are to you? BROWN, BLACK and WHITE? Really? Is that how simple-minded you are? That those are the words you decided to use in order to express yourself. Seriously, you lost me at “brown man.” So what are you? BIG, HUGE and WHITE? Maybe you should go hiking at night, I’m sure you won’t get stopped by anyone.

    Control of the border is fine, discrimination is not. Don’t give me a speech about how it’s not discrimination. Go discuss that with your BIG WHITE acquaintances down the road, because I doubt you have any real friends.

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    Bella Reply:

    Wow. That was cruel. I’m sorry, I didn’t read it before clicking submit.

    So much for being the Christian Buddhist I thought I was.

    I’m really sorry, please don’t take that literally. I don’t even know you or what you look like. I was blinded by the words you used.

    That was really mean and I’m really sorry.

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    guevavi Reply:

    Yes. They are REAL HISPANICS. They just have a differing opinion than you have. Why is that so hard to believe? “Keeping the brown man down” is simply a term I have heard from Hispanics, usually in a joking manner. Based on the attacks on this new Arizona law being racist towards Hispanics, I thought it was fitting. Enforcing the law is not racist…just legal. That was the point I was making.

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    Bella Reply:

    Wow, Guevavi. You meant every word. I’m taking back my apology!

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    Rabbit Reply:

    There is no boubt that there are people in this country ilegaly. But the core of the issue here is whether this las is constitutionally legal. It is not! It is flawed on its face. Any other argument is moot as far as I am concerned.

    Racial ignorance is racial ignorance. Anyone can be argumentative just to here their own voice if they want to. However, in the end, real law is real law. Arizona does not have the right to rewrite the constitution. They passed a law that affects the fundamental rights of the rest of us. This is something that will not be permitted by the courts. The wild west mentality of Arizona’s law makers will not be tolerated in the end.

    Furthermore, Arizona is a failing state. If its officials were so smart, they would be doing something to repair their own spending flaws. Their economy would not be in the tank. So, to all of you racist commie fooks that are defending the ignorance of Arizona, in the end I will be glad that there are still constitutional rights that defend the guilty as well as the innocent. The let me see your papers mentality is horrible at best. I will be relieved to watch this one fall.

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    yanawana Reply:

    talk to those “hispanics” after they get profiled and pulled over by the “authorities” to ask for their “papers” then ask for their opinion again.

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  41. @ rabbit
    The Arizona law that was signed is a mirror image of already-established federal law. It is constitutional. It just frees the state and local cops to do what the politicians have handcuffed the feds on. And it puts the federal government on notice that the states are tired of their ineptitude.

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    Bella Reply:

    On notice? Without the constant assistance of the federal government you would be feeding your family coyotes with a side of cactus right now.

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    guevavi Reply:

    OOOOkay. Salmon and broccolli for dinner tonight…very yummy. And with absolutely no federal assistance. Coyotes y cactus? Posible manana. On my dime.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    You don’t know what you are talking about. The law is not constitutional to the rest of us that are not here illegally. You are missing the point. I don’t want my right being violated over this. If a person is here illegaly, that’s on him. But don’t take it out on the rest of us.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    Mirror image my ass!!!

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    Rabbit Reply:

    When you take a federal law and change it to fit the state level, that often times is not constitutional in itself. The feds are real good at saying do as we say, not as we do. Watch, this will fall. Way too much apposition, including Mexico. The Feds don’t want to open that door.

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  42. I changed my stance on this…Deport them all fook it..

    I will go with them since I am born to illegal parents..

    I just bought 140 acres last week in Durango I will just start growing shit (mostly poppy cause heroin really kills) in order to do my part in driving this country down the gutter..I would open a gym or a wellness center down there but there really aint a market for that so I might as well whipe my ass with my degree.Oh and these student loans can suck it too.lol.

    The white folks talk ceazy..Why cant I do it????? fooken MESICANS!!!! uuughhh ;)

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    Rabbit Reply:

    I’m with you. I own a cattle ranch down there. 200 acres. Let’s go. fook this place. Only thing I want to bring with me is a micro brewery. At least we can make good beer.

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    Vincent Hanna Reply:

    the 3 of us need to talk then.

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    rabbit Reply:

    Hit me up.

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    johnny Reply:

    hey hit me up waiting to hear from u man.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    I am in Florida, as soon as I get home I will hit you up.

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    johnny Reply:

    alright cool

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  43. Isabella you rock!!!

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  44. Orale, 10-4 good buddy, I called it. When you don’t have an argument pull out the ol’ trusty race card. Works every time ese. Over.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    What the fook is a axtexican? Probably has to do with steers and queeers, right? How’s this for a race card, lick my white ass!!! Damn, I think I just became a racist. Shit!!!

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    johnny Reply:

    hey rabbit totally agree with u like always were on the same page hope to hear from u very soon

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  45. http://www.palominas.com/gallery14.htm
    family with el duke mother fookers after this we all had shots and lines

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  46. SORRY GUYS BUT THIS IS HOW I FEEL..I WONT LET EMOTIONS GET IN THE WAY OF REALITY IN MY EYES.I AM A PROUD MEXICAN AMERICAN BUT THAT DONT MEAN I HAVE TO DEFEND MORE AND MORE OF MY PEOPLE COMMING HERE TO SUFFER..THEY ARE BETTER OFF AT HOME.I HATE THE RACIAL PROFILING THING BUT IF THIS HOLDS IT WILL BE A REALITY AND WE ALL WILL PAY FOR SO CALLED CRIMES OUR PEOPLE COMMIT.

    It doesnt take affect for 90 days they have time to get out of dodge…This legislator that made this law was held at gun point by a mexican immigrant, his son which was a cop was shot and killed by an immigrant..Porque la gente se aferra a algo que no es de ellos. For example I undesrtand when they come to this country to WORK,but then they wanna get pregnant and have 2-3 kids and act like they automaticaly have it made then when immigration comes to get them they wanna hide behind their kids and they want to use their kids as an excuse but that takes me back to the first point. They came to this country to work, Right?? Not to have kids and when its time for them to go back they don’t want to,.they can easily take their kids with them but they choose not to because they feel like they have the right to stay, they knew that immigration was comming one day to find them,or their working visa was over,so para que se aferran a algo que no es de ellos. my thing is this, people are getting allll pissed off and honestly I knew it was gonna happen and its was only a matter a time. Just because we are latino and theres alot of us here doesnt mean we are not the excluded minority,all minorities had there’s turn now its the latinos suck it up and take it…
    Look I was raised in a crime infested neighborhood I looked up to drug dealers and gang bangers then I became one my parents did there best to raise me but I became a product of my enviorment..I thank god because I overcame all that because most of my friends are dead or in jail..All of us know that a high percentage of children raised in poor familys have no other choice but to turn to crime.NOT ALL..But do we really need our people to continuie the cycle by continuing to introduce more and more low income familys..It was nice while it lasted but lets get real we that are here legally should educate ourselves and put ourselfs in positions of power so we have more of a say so in things that affect our comunity..

    I know this reaks of hipocracy but somtimes reality out weighs evrything else.

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  47. it’s typical of humans to want to say ya basta! i consumed as much of earth’s resources as possible. now we are going to run out and there is none left for you to consume….so you cannot come into my country. this is the philosophy of the United States. it’s like that movie 2012 where they tried to shut the doors on everybody scrambling onto the ships to save themselves from the storms….as long as my family is fine, or me…that’s all that matters. fook everybody else. dog eat dog. thats what the us gets for living at the expense of others. why do you think the world is pissed at the good ole usa? we take copper, zinc, uranium, water, oil, coal from under the feet of the poor around the world so we can have our luxuries…we live in an illusion, a temporary illusion. fook it im just writing for myself. nobody else gets it.

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  48. John Wayne dies, nation mourns!

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    Lefty Reply:

    How can John Wayne die?

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  49. …shit, i don’t even know what to say about all this shit, some are hating on the brown Mexicans and some others on the white gabachos…i’m out of here for a while.

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    Bella Reply:

    Don’t go! Don’t take anything they write seriously! I certainly don’t.

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    ilegal Reply:

    SUGAR? WHAT THE fook? WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY SHlT ANYMORE?

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  50. @ Isabella: As a film buff as well, I do have to take issue with your statement, … “Subtitles suck ass.”

    We were once in a nice, clean, restaurant in Rosario Tesopaco with a ton of local families and the TV was on MTV II, which at that time was the brand-new Spanish language version of the American/English one. The Latino Pop-Music Video Industry was just gearing up so they didn’t have enough programming to fill up the time, so they used sub-titled staples like “Beavis and Butthead” in the gaps. The one we happened to watch there at full volume was one where Beavis says he likes going up into the crowd at the front of a rock concert so he can rub up against pretty girls ( subtitle:“Ay Caramba!”) and then Butthead says he likes it when the guy behind him rubs up against him (subtitle No Se!”). Made us laugh so hard we had to put our heads on the table, and when the locals asked what was so funny, our only response was to say you had to be an “Gringo” to understand….

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    Bella Reply:

    That was hilarious! I’m laughing so hard I’m crying a little!

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  51. Well, the conversation STARTED out well here then, really degenerated into a lot of uncivil filth. Just about everyone , from every side, resorted to racist and filthy comments here. I read on hoping it would get back to some measure of decency but that seems to be too much to expect. So, I’ll move on to some other blog and hope you people don’t behave this way when you walk out your doors.

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    yanawana Reply:

    what did you think, that we are a bunch of buddhists and are compassionate and ever forgiving. shit. my ass. what are you supposed to do when you are getting attacked. turn the other cheek. for what

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  52. This might help the AZ law enforcers identify who is *illegal* or not – in the spirit of Spartacus.

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    yanawana Reply:

    i feel sorry for you. you bastard.

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  53. For america to be truley righteous all people should submit to random drug tests.
    To get any job. drivers lic, cel phone , services, medical , school, I bet they drug test in Heaven too.
    No one will get raptured with drugs in thier system / we need total control to be cleansed of sin!!! so we can be truelly free. and no beaners need apply

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    Jack Reply:

    This is satire, right?

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  54. For what it’s worth, some posters here are drinking too much beer, wine, or tequila.
    Anyone here have a better explanation as to why such juvenile nastiness keeps creeping in?

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    rabbit Reply:

    Because some of these commie idiots won’t be happy til the cops can walk in their house any time they please. Some horrible people live in America, that’s why other parts of the world hate the rest of us.

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    Jack Reply:

    And so, rabbit, what have you been drinking lately?

    Your reply to my comment makes no sense, whatsoever.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    I was only letting you know that some of the comments are from people that don’t mind the erosian of what’s left of our rights.

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  55. Yup dat wabbit needs to be drug tested and locked up.
    Put the fear of the lord in his spinless little behind.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    This spineless Wabbit would love to meet you any time to discuss it in person. Let me know when you are ready.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    Who ever you are, I have read your self-serving comments several times. What a cowardly badge kissing lame you are. I know you use several names here. I wish you would just tell me where to come and meet you, I would travel accross the world for that conversation. I have more balls and spine than you and your whole family. So continue to fill the gossip crowd with your innuendo and false accusations. In the end, look in the mirror for a long time to see who you really are, absolutely no one.

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    Chris Reply:

    I guarantee he is associated with law enforcement some how.

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  57. [...] says we just have to “trust [Arizona] law enforcement” not to interpret “undocumented-looking” as “Hispanic looking.” Yeah, [...]

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  59. Great, we are getting advice from someone who lives in Florida that works for an attorney’s office concerning a law that was written for Arizona based on an existing Federal Law. What next, the people of Miami renounce the protesting of Cuban human rights issues and work to end the trade embargo while Fidel Castro tells them his idea of Socialism will make their lives better? While I enjoy watching the two EXTREME sides of this debate go at it, there isn’t much that can be said unless you are living this life on a daily basis. I am not going to tell Floridians of Cuban descent that they need to let bygones be bygones and stop worrying about Castro and Cuba because I do not know the pain they have felt and the hell they have lived through under his rule. At the same time If you don’t live on the southern border don’t tell me how illegal immigration is affecting my life and my paycheck. You do not know what circumstances caused this bill to be written and passed into law. The bottom line is 60% of the Arizona populace supports this law and that includes Hispanic. African, Asian, Anglo and all other LEGAL residents of my state. Calling someone a redneck or spic isn’t going to do anything to help. If you don’t agree with the law and live in Arizona contact your congressional representative. If you live elsewhere and don’t agree with this law, just be thankful that you don’t have to pay for the costs associated with being a border state.

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