Ice Cream! (but You’ll Scream First … )

Jul 3rd, 2010 | By Michel Marizco | Category: General News, Organized Crime
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THE BORDER REPORT

And Mexico, and I mean the State, is staying the Christ out of it. Thank you, first of all, to juanito, a reader here who helped set me straight on the players. (I’d like to add, as a friend in Nogales pointed out, who in the hell drives a Volkswagen Passat to a gunfight with the Beltrán Leyvas?)

He’s got it right, Felix the Ice Cream Man is with Raúl Sabori, Paéz Soto, Nini Beltrán and Los Jabalí, Jose Vásquez’s boys from Santa Ana. Collectively, they’re the Sinaloa Federation’s syndicate along the Sonora border.

And they’re going against El Gilo, a man identified in an FBI report as Hector Beltrán Leyva’s lieutenant in Saríc and Tubutama, that pocket of cerro between Nogales and Sasabe, just along the Sonora-Arizona border. It is significant that the U.S. intel agencies do not know his real name. (All photos, courtesy, Sonora State Police.)

Gilo, according to the FBI, has 300 men stocked in that town and they’re running out of resources. Last week, the chief of police and town treasurer from Tubutama tried to make a run for Nogales to buy gasoline; they were subsequently eliminated from the argument. On June 12, according to a U.S. Border Patrol intel report, Gilo scrapped with the Mexican Army in Cerro Prieto; taking no casualties. The Army backed off, not saying how many casualties they themselves took. Geographically, it’s a rough area to get to; there is exactly one highway leading in, you come in from Magdalena de Kino or you come in from Sasabe or Altar. My apologies to those of you not from this area, it’s late, I’m busy and I don’t have time to explain these logistics. Suffice it to say that there are three entrances towards that mountain range, one from the east, two from the west.

In that gunfight yesterday, the Sinaloa crew fooked up; there’s just no other way to put it. Los Jabalí geared up with 30-50 SUVs and trucks, all marked with three X’s on the windows. Gilo’s people were waiting for them. According to the FBI, the Sinaloans ran into a roadblock, just a couple cars jamming up the road; enough to force the convoy to a halt. It was truly a stupid maneuver, in my opinion. Yeah, you had them cornered, Gilo’s people are sitting stranded in a fooking mountain town for chrissakes. But the Sinaloans moved in linearly when they should have come in from all directions. Idiotas. Bear in mind that the Army did nothing during this occupation; they didn’t move in on Gilo, they didn’t move on the Sinaloans.

From the FBI report: “Subjects report that the Jabalínas (sp) were forced to a stop on the highway when Gilo’s group opened fire and sustained heavy casualties.”

The Sinaloans are supposedly waiting for 300 men to arrive from Sinaloa. Unfortunately for them, Gilo is also awaiting reinforcements.

There’s an old story in the Sierra, about a lion cornered by a pack of dogs and just how many of those dogs the old mountain cat defeated before he was taken down.

Right about now, 48 hours after the killings, there oughtta be two groups coming in from Sinaloa; one from Culiacán, one from the Sierra, Los Mochis, maybe. 300 men, each side, about to fight it out for a mountain town. The FBI is filled with idiots who anticipate this is a mopping up of the Beltrán Leyvas. They ain’t been able to do it yet. In fact, got smoked when they tried.

No, no, mi estimado. One side is brimming, building up in the cities. But the other is quiet, watching, waiting. The dogs are howling; the cat’s snarling. This will be a fight for the corridos to remember. Gonna be one hell of a Fourth of July.

I’ll be in Tubutama this weekend. Try and behave. Sále.

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  1. Enjoy the drive up from Magdalena, Michel. It’s one of the most scenic in that region – passing, as it does, through forests of saguaro and ocotillo. On a nicely engineered and paved road, no less.

    I’ve been to Tubutama more than a dozen times, most recently in April when I met a tour bus filled with US senior citizens, taking in the old church, ambling around the plaza, and later, having a picnic lunch under the lush cottonwoods down by the Altar River, chaperoned by a single local police officer.

    I sometimes wondered how the 800 or so residents of this tidy, friendly, placid, and prosperous village made a living. But was wise enough never to ask.

    Now I know.

    The glide back down is even better – spectacular vistas all around – northward to the border and as far east and south as the eye can see.

    Hope you return safely.

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  2. Los jabalies no andaban en la balacera fueron los paleteros y los sabori quienes fueron emboscados por los gilos

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    Pancho villa Reply:

    Ess todo juanito tu si sabes lo que dises. Thank you for this comment and saying the truth.

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  3. (parece que mas de uno sabe lo que paso, alguien dejo esto en El Imparcial)..Y porke no investijan al teniente coronel miguel ángel vasques rodriguez que fue quien mando a los municipales de aki de nogales para apoyar a los sicarios? y si no preguntelen a la esposa del encargado de vehículos robados de aki de la municipal manuel lerichi y kien murió en el enfrentamiento…
    El día de hoy en la mañana se presento aki a las instalaciones del c4 la esposa de lerichi a reclamarle al teniente coronel porke dio la orden de que apoyaran a los sicarios del chapo y el mayo, dirigidos por el de apodo “el Navajas” kien murió también en la refriega y ubo que calmarla, ya que en sus gritos de desesperasion desia que su esposo le dijo antes de partir que el teniente coronel lo abia mandado hacer un trabajo y no quería ir. Pero que si no iva le ivan a dar a el y a su familia piso. Todos saben que el manuel lerichi, el traidor del benjamín caro que también andaba junto con el policía violador juan diego encinas pero estos si se salvaron, trabajan para el gigo, el navajas y su gente, pero porke jente como el benjamín caro que ayer en el trascurso del dia fue asegurado con armamento por parte de la estatal investigadora fue puesto libre?
    Ay varios compañeros que se desconoce su paradero y muy seguro están entre los mas de 21 muertos, porke esos no son todos faltan mas, pero todos reciben ordenes del teniente coronel miguel angel vasques rodriguez a kien no le importa matar a sus policías. Si mato a su ex sub director y su amigo el escolta, menos le vamos a pesar nosotros.

    A el también investíguenlo y corralo ya señor alcalde, si no, tarde o temprano también a usted le puede pesar el seguirlo manteniendo en el cargo…

    SALUDOS CHATO
    NO LO KIEREN CREER QUE EL DIABLO SIGUE SUELTO Y LA COMPAÑÍA FUNCIONANDO, KERIAN QUE EL TORO BAILARA, PUES YA BAILO Y LE ENTRO AL RUEDO AL 100…

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  4. Come home victorius or come home on your shield…either way—you deserve a pultizer.

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  5. http://picasaweb.google.com/corvidsupply/SaricSasabee#

    Here are some pictures i took a few years ago on the road……it is an awesome place.Funny how people from Arizona think they have the beautiful desert…if they knew how great it is the Tourism would boom (well after “the troubles” ends)

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    Dr. Phillips Reply:

    You consider that wasteland to be beautiful? You should get out more often.

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    jerry Reply:

    No way man the desert smokes the Sonoran desert near Tucson…way more and varied plant and animal life….I guess you could go to the desert museum in Tucson and pretend you are experiencing the southwest….green horn!

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    Huera Reply:

    Interesting photos. Thanks for the URL.

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  6. is nini beltran and beltran-leyva related i read some news sources reporting they are related

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  7. where does las paredes stand in this?

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    talegon Reply:

    they sent some people to help the convoy of the sinaloa cartel

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    Rabbit Reply:

    They are good people. I hope they last through all this chaoss!

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  9. Sicario del narco, escolta del gobernador de Tamaulipas
    Autoridades de Estados Unidos y México identifican a uno de los escoltas del gobernador priista de Tamaulipas, Eugenio Hernández, como uno de los sicarios más peligrosos del narco en México.
    http://sdpnoticias.com/sdp/contenido/nacional/2010/07/03/1003/1072251

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  10. http://www.lanetanews.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2234&Itemid=26
    aqui esta la version donde se mencionan los grupos participantes en la refriega, uno comandado por el gilo del cid que embosco a los narcos de caborca que aunque superaban en numero fueron masacrados en la curva de la s entre la reforma y cerro prieto cuando le tenian un carro atravesado y desde arriva del cerro que rodeaba la curva los venadearon, cerca de 50 vehiculos marcados con una x que huyeron rumbo a altar y sasabe

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  11. para que no me lo borren en el otro lugar, lo voy a poner aqui tambien…esto lo debe de saber mucha gente inocente que no debe ninguna maldad.

    Los mentado GO-TAH cuando es tiempo de su perdiodo en ese dia del mes. Todo les salen bien orange y red.

    Mirra aca en Sonora se sabe que a Don Adan Salazar lo mataron en el 2002. Lo mismo que a su hijo Poncho y su sobrino Alfredito Salazar. Los decapitaron en Chihuahua, Chihuahua, les bajaron 600 millones de dolares y en avioneta se los llevaron muertos pa Obregon, Sonora. Alli mismo en Obregon, les presentaron en un party familiar las cabezas de esos tres tacuaches en una hielera. Tambien se dice que en ese mismo party familiar le volaron la cabeza a ese mismo Simon Wanata que era en realidad Javier Torrez y tambien usaba un nombre con el apeido Zatarain. Eso es todita la verdad.

    Para que les quede muy claro: Los Numeros no estan muertos. El verdadero 7 es el jefe de todo el movimiento, se la navega en California junto con el 8, 9, y el 10. Saquen se de dudas y lean esto: http://www.chalino.com/en/foros/topic/94547/badimamadi-y-quien-dijo-que-murio-don-arturo-beltran-part-1
    Ese kabron de arriba que mencionan en chalino.com es el hijo de Arturo Beltran Leyva. Con eso les digo todo. Sopbrino tambien de los famosos Mendivil de Sonora y Sinaloa.

    Aqui hay gato encerrado. Pero hay una idiota traicionera que trabaja para el periodico Zeta que anda metiendo dedo, sin saber que desde hace tiempo la tienen en la mirra. Me refierro a una kabrona que esta casada con un tal fulano de nombre Rafael Figuerroa que viven por la Avenida Caracas por el Fraccionamento Paraiso. Ese tal Figuerroa era hermano de Don Adan Salazar Zamorano, haci como tambien lo fueron Pedro y Octavio Paez. Es una familia grande de poquiteros que de enverdad son de Michoacan. Hay un viejo prieto feo y gacho haya por Navojoa, Sonora que vive por la Pesquiera al frente del Motel Del Mayo. Ese es el papa de todos los Paez, Cazares, Salazar y Caro. A la mejor me faltan mas apeidos, y les pido disculpa de antemano. Pero ese viejillo prieto y gacho ayi mero en Navojoa encontra la cabeza de su hijito Don Adan Salazar Zamorano en el merro freezer del refrigirador. Sobre aviso no hay engano. Todo esto paso por el ano 2002. Pero a ese tal Rafael Figueroa le acaban de aprender a un hijo hace ya una semana con lazos a la Familia Michoacana. Y ese tal Rafael Figueroa es alguien que aya con los gringos salio y sale mucho en television, tambien en presentaciones estatales y ahorra nacionales. Quiero decir que es todo un dipetuniado de alto nivel. Muchos se sorprenderan cuando todo esto sale al aire.

    Quiero terminar con decirles algo, no se juega con los Numeros y mucho menos con el 7 de San Bernardo, Sonora. Ya a dado muchos ejemplos por donde quiera y hay mucha gente con humos de grandeza que ya no estan para contarla. Y me refiero a funcionarios de goviernos con alto nivel. Y aqui les va algo de mi tierra: En lo derecho no hay curvas, pero todo depende de quien es el chofer o tenga el poder absoluto.

    Cuando salga el corrido del General 5 Estrellas se van a acordar de mi, porque alli sabran quien en realidad es el Papa De Los Pollitos o tambien El Perron que tiene los pies sobre la tierra y no anda con jaladas de monta piojos.

    Como la ven?

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    D_Nephew Reply:

    saludos compa ALPHA, me da mucho gusto verlo por estos rumbos ke se habia hecho?

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    juanito Reply:

    Pues la neta estas bien pendejo de akual fumaste? Pa empezar don adan salazar zamorano esta vivito y coleando junto con su hijo alfredo y no es su sobrino? Al unico hijo que le mataron fue a abelardo que lo desaparecieron en agua prieta y a un hermano de el en nogales pero se les pelo, y para que los sepas poncho el 7 es ildefonso enriquez parra hermano de raul el 9 que ya esta muertomuerto y no es nadie ni a pokitero llega, otra cosa los paez, los caro no tienen que ver con ningun grupo el que sigue mandando es rafa caro que les presta los ranchos en la region de santiago de los caballeros y babunica tambien al chapon de la rocha deberian de contratarte en hollywood para escribir peliculas tienes mucha imaginacion jajaajjaaja

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    ValleYaqui Reply:

    estas muy pendej0 Juanito…los Salazar estan muy muertos y tu andas jugando con fuego.

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    juanito Reply:

    Para empezar don adan tiene 68 osea que su papa que a de tener 100 lo encontro en su refrigerador jajaja neta que imaginacion la tuya. Y no seas pendejo el es de chinipas chihuahua no de michoacan babosete

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    oscar Reply:

    Si es cierto que imaginacion ni el chpo tiene los 600 millones cagan dinero o ke?

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    ilegal Reply:

    el chapo montaperros si tiene eso y mas, es mas, si Julio Beltran, que no estaba tan pesado como el montaperros, aflojo cien millones de los verdes por que liberaran a su madre cuando la secuestraron, tu crees que el pitorras no tiene mas de 600?

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    juanito Reply:

    pues en laentrevista al mayo dijo que eran puras tonterias que tenian tanto dinero el unico que alcanzo a tener 200 millones y con mucho trabajo fue amado carrillo y ya ves murio ruino lo unico que le quedo fueron 5 millones que rescato su hijo de una casa y ahi estan las declaraciones no lo digo yo, pero as de serel tesorero del chapo para que eestes tan seguro o te recomiendo que no habras el osico por ke te va a buscar el tesoro de los estados unidos para congelarte las cuentas del chapo jajajaja

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    ilegal Reply:

    el que se deberia de callar el ocico es otro, si no te gusta lo que uno opina aqui pues botate mucho a la m0nda pa otro lado.

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    cesar Reply:

    as de tener esos millones pero en el cerebro jajajaja

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    ilegal Reply:

    cuando dije yo que tengo millones? no seas burro y lee dos veces antes de cajetiar por la buchaca.

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    La Neta Reply:

    Juanito…ask the governor of California who the real Chapo Guzman and Arturo Beltran Leyva really are…hahahaha

    Si supieras que El Chapo/ Arturo Beltran Leyva es agente especial de la CIA no anduvieras hablando pendejadas.

    Y sabes quien secuestro a la madre de Julio Beltran y le saco 100 millones de dolares? El mismo compa que tumbo a Don Adan Salazar Zamorano. Y si no me crees que exciste un tal RUSO que es el mas pesado de todos los pesados, hacercate a San Bernardo Sonora, ojeton de teinta!

    The real Michel Marizco got whacked with that other Jimenez Mota dumb fook about 8 years ago.

    Juanito…like i told you, idiot….the CIA/ NSA has complete control into what comes out in all the press and media…the war on drugs goes beyond drugs. We can give a flying phuck what you think, you believe what we want you to believe any phucken ways.

    Websites like this one are just created to find even more leads that were created by the original dumb phuck of Michel Marizco.

    Cleve Olivia Carrasco de Figuerro got phucken played big time!

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    ilegal Reply:

    a ver mariguano, que yo sepa a la madre de Julio Beltran la habia secuestrado un primo de el, a menos que el tal Ruso sea el mismo hombre, and about the real Michael Marizco getting clipped together with Alfredo Jimenez Mota, if that’s true, then the CIA did a hell of a job getting a twin to play Michael, i’ve known the man for about 10 years now and he looks exactly the same, what do you have to say to that? o te comieron la lengua los ratones? o eres puro pajaro nalgon?…

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    YeYo Reply:

    Chalino site is Lame as hell..Sorry but 90% of all the shit on there is boring..

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    ilegal Reply:

    not if you are a pocho who dresses himself as chalino used to do in the 90′s (those suits with snake skin on the shoulders and upper back), wear a “texana de lado” and drive your dad’s truck and go around telling the girls you are a Sinaloan narco and they fall for it, even though you can barely speak spanish, lol!!!

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    johnny Reply:

    pendejo no sabes nada

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    johnny Reply:

    this reply goes to number 11 la neta

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  12. el hijo de Rafael Figueroa de Tijuana es Miguel Ortiz Mirranda el Tyson. Ese Rafael Figueroa radica en Tijuana en fracionamento Paraiso por la avenida Caracas

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    Mario Reply:

    Hay muchos que se la van a querer cobrar con el papa.

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  13. I GOT THIS FROM LIVELEAK…This weekend, the Cochise County Border Militia will conduct a volunteer border patrol operation along the Arizona-Mexico border.

    And Christina Boomer of ABC15 is riding along to chronicle the experience…

    Their mission: Spot and report illegal border crossers and create a presence to spook off incoming smuggling operations from Mexico.

    In Mexico, cartel turf wars (combined with President Felipe Calderon’s aggressive war on drugs) have sparked violent shoot-outs and casualty counts that have sent shockwaves north of the border.

    It is hard not to be alarmed when you read headlines like this one published by the Associated Press July 1st; “21 dead in Mexican gang gun battle near US border.”

    The article, with a dateline from Hermosillo, Mexico, said the gunfight between two rival drug and migrant-smuggling gangs, “occurred in a sparsely populated area about 12 miles (20 kilometers) from the Arizona border — a prime corridor for immigrant and drug smuggling.”

    That is just too violent and too close for many people who live in Arizona.

    Some fear that the bloodshed happening in Mexico is already spilling over into America and believe the recent shooting death of Rob Krentz, a Douglas rancher, is proof.

    The hunt is on for the suspect. No witnesses mean there’s not much for detectives to go on.

    Detectives did spot shoe tracks headed south toward Mexico.

    Following Krentz’s murder, the Cochise County Border Militia began offering their services to local ranchers and the group’s leader, Bill Davis, began snatching up recruits.

    They could make a job out of this, contracting their security detail operation to private land owners feeling jittery after one of their own was gunned down.

    Davis is not shy about stating who he’s looking for to join him on a 4th of July volunteer patrol along the border. He’s looking for veterans with guns who are not afraid to use them.

    The reality is, patrolling the border is dangerous. You don’t know whom you might encounter trying to creep into Arizona. It could be an armed smuggler with a lot to lose if you stop his load of drugs or human cargo.

    That is why they patrol in pairs, with a walkie-talkie, and a gun.

    If they see something suspicious, they call Border Patrol. In an e-mail, Davis explained some of the rules: “We don’t initiate a conversation. Tackle & Detain? NO! Nobody threatens with a weapon!”

    Davis has allowed Christina Boomer to document their 4th of July operation, so she is headed to Southern Arizona this weekend.

    Hear from him and members of their group as they explain who they are, what motivates them, and what they hope to accomplish.

    Along with hearing them in their own words, you will see firsthand what happens on a volunteer border patrol.

    Do you have questions for Davis or members of the Cochise County Border Militia? Send them them here:

    Twitter: ChristinaBoomer
    Facebook: Christina Boomer
    E-mail: CBoomer@abc15.com

    http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/local_news/news_blogs/militia-to-conduct-border-patrol-operation-in-arizona-this-weekend

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    jerry Reply:

    I live 20 miles from this group of hillbilly dumbasses…embarassing….I’m on a major smuggling route and traffic in the washes near me is almost non-existant at this time…crime is down

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    Frank Reply:

    Thanks for the information, we need AB1070 passed in every border state before the sick sociopaths in mexico come in droves into the U.S.

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    Dude Reply:

    Stop using their shit and they won’t come…

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    ilegal Reply:

    the Sinaloan grim reaper is already here, franky boy, just try and stop us lol!

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    h0wen Reply:

    what this people (zetas, beltran leyva and chapos) want, is to control the drug/people traffic into the US.
    what most of you don’t realize, is that the US is the number 1 consumer of drugs in the world, and you also have a lot of job for the illegals who go there to take out the trash, make your big macs, build your fancy houses, and clean your pools.
    stop consuming so much pot! quit the crystal meth, and forget about sniffing some coke! give some job-visas, hire people here in Mexico so they can go and pick the strawberries in California, or better yet, stop your freakin war in iraq and afghanistan, so your boys can make something useful in america, instead of anihilating some other country.

    felicidades al autor del blog! tienes mejor informacion que muchas paginas de aqui de mexico

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    Vincent Hanna Reply:

    Well gee whiz, you don’t say “what most of you don’t realize, is that the US is the number 1 consumer of drugs in the world”. By-golly, thank you sir, thank you very much for telling us what we don’t know.

    if you can sense the sarcasim, that is good, because i’m laying it on pretty thick.

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    bh Reply:

    Spellcheck. Lay it on thicker.

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    Vincent Hanna Reply:

    eh, weak.

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    drift Reply:

    FOOK YOU VINCENT!!! … NOW go get your FOOKING SHINE BOX!!!

    was that weak???

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    Vincent Hanna Reply:

    This fooking guy, Mob Guys, I don’t trust them.

    I know this is going to sound gay as fook, but i’ve been watching the shit out of True Blood lately, and it’s pretty fooking good.

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    YeYo Reply:

    Gay!!!!

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  14. awe come on now, you know its much more fun to blame others for problems our own creation. and as far as thoses Ignorant militia men why dont you go clean up our intercitys or maybe just get a life… theres to much money being made on both sides of the line by both Goverments at all levels.

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  15. Michel:
    Por que son menos comentarios de los que se dice que hay?.
    En este tema dice que son 27 pero solo son 14.

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    ilegal Reply:

    29 counting mine…MALOVA GOBERNADOR!!!

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  16. Thats sad Michel censoring comments after that whole google mamada. No mames wey. Agarrate de los huevos. si es que trais. no me censores wey.

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  17. what is el gilo’s real name? Im trying to figure out if i read something bout this dude

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    Gallo Reply:

    Juanito says its Arnoldo “El Cid” Buelna.

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    Gallo Reply:

    Arnoldo del Cid Buelna

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  18. some idiots like Juanito don’t believe the real story…like if I phucken care…I wrote whatever you believe anyways, dumb-phuck…for I control the phucken press! Do you not know who really owns this website?

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  19. you know very well who owns this website, Michel…hahaha

    they still think your the original Michel Marizco…but the real Michel Marizco got wacked by the CIA about 7 years ago…I’m still laughing my ass off at Cleve Olivia Carrasco de Figueroa.

    Maybe Obama will get impeached, afterall…pero yo me comformo con que le pase lo mismo a lo que les paso a los Kennedy.

    Bunch of loonies!

    Who did they think they were phuking with?

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  20. the CIA whacked the real Michel Marizco just liked they whacked that other phuck from Sonora…\

    If you don’t know, now you know…

    So tell us Miche Marizco…

    What was Cleve Olivia Carrazco de Figueroa talking to you about in regards to Barrack Obama?

    Where was he getting his campaign “money” from?

    Shit is hitting the fan and the fan has stop spinning.

    How about a D.C. Follies with Obama and his mama, and his mama will have a strong resemblance to Ronald Reagan.

    This shit is over!

    2012, bitches!

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  21. que le paso al verdadero Michel Marizco? hahaha ni las moscas! Phuck Cleve Olivia Carrasco de Figueroa and phuck Rafael Figueroa! Ese rafael Figueroa es el mero Barrack Obama!

    The CIA is all over this shit!

    lame phucks!

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  22. Damn hope someone isn’t sewing Michaels face on a soccer ball as we speak!

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    HAHAHA Reply:

    that’s what happened that douchebag 8 years ago

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  23. i was in santa ana this weekend and the only guy from santa ana that died got buried yesterday also they told me that the jabalines werent leading the convoy they just sent people to back them up and so did saboris paleteros paredes y el gigio de nogales…..apperently people coming from the outside (sinaloa, chihuahua,tamaulipas)were the ones leading it people who didnt know the land (you can see it by the results)

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    la tortuga Reply:

    es lo mismo que dicen de canapas
    y tambien dicen que los que estan matando los policias son los de el 2K

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    Rabbit Reply:

    That guy is a mother f#*!#!. This war is going no where. Just a lot of killing. However, the weed season is coming fast. We will see how this season plays out. Although, a hitchiker told me that there is still tons of weed from last season still flowing across la frontera. at least that’s what he told a friend of a friend.

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  24. Juanito…ask the governor of California who the real Chapo Guzman and Arturo Beltran Leyva really are…hahahaha

    Si supieras que El Chapo/ Arturo Beltran Leyva es agente especial de la CIA no anduvieras hablando pendejadas.

    Y sabes quien secuestro a la madre de Julio Beltran y le saco 100 millones de dolares? El mismo compa que tumbo a Don Adan Salazar Zamorano. Y si no me crees que exciste un tal RUSO que es el mas pesado de todos los pesados, hacercate a San Bernardo Sonora, ojeton de teinta!

    The real Michel Marizco got whacked with that other Jimenez Mota dumb fook about 8 years ago.

    Juanito…like i told you, idiot….the CIA/ NSA has complete control into what comes out in all the press and media…the war on drugs goes beyond drugs. We can give a flying phuck what you think, you believe what we want you to believe any phucken ways.

    Websites like this one are just created to find even more leads that were created by the original dumb phuck of Michel Marizco.

    Cleve Olivia Carrasco de Figuerro got phucken played big time!

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  25. Legalizing the production and distribution of marijuana in California could cut the price of the drug by as much as 80 percent and increase consumption, according to a new study by the nonprofit RAND Corporation that examines many issues raised by proposals to legalize marijuana in the state…Based on an analysis of known production costs and surveys of the current price of marijuana, researchers suggest the untaxed retail price of high-quality marijuana could drop to as low as $38 per ounce compared to about $375 per ounce today

    .From The Rand corporation

    So who’s going to buy narco ditch weed for even 200 a lb? no one…..less crime…less prisons…less narco violence…everyone needs to get real jobs like the rest of us

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    LOL Reply:

    Agree with that study 100% but the problem then will shift to Other synthetic drugs kidnapping and extortion. Alot of killers have been produced in Mexico over the last several years and thats all they know, so what happens when you get rid of their business?

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    Jack Reply:

    And how about the million or so God-fearing, decent Mexicans who will lose their well-paying jobs cultivating, packaging, and transporting the weed?

    I mean this sincerely – I’m close to a Sinaloa family that includes a school principal, several teachers, a nurse or two, a Pentacostal preacher, a construction manager, a carpenter and several other family members that work in safe, stable, well-managed, and good-paying jobs in the drug industry.

    Oh, I know: as soon as MJ is legalized, Archer-Daniel-Midlands and the other giant agri-businesses will lease all the growing land they can get their hands on and pay workers $10 a day, just like in the maquilas.

    At any rate, when pot is legalized, there will be a stupendous migration of workers northbound.

    “The law of unintended consequences” at work.

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    vinotinto Reply:

    Those God-fearing hard workers better start organizing and preparing for a pot legal USA now to avoid being taken over by the large multinationals later. Maquila lesson learned or no?

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    vinotinto Reply:

    LOL, those killers that have been produced will have to be faced and defeated whether pot is legal or not.

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  26. El Gilo’s group, (Beltran Leyva) survived this, but they are probably on their way out in Sonora, and the rest of the country. Is that safe to assume? I was thinking that it must be a sinking grim feeling playing for the losing team over there, I guess defection is one option if the other side will have you, or just fight till the end. I am curious about the Beltran Leyva’s standing in the rest of Mexico too.

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  27. The mota problem has already morphed into the meth problem for several years now. Same bad actors who just diversified. Same problems with even worse health risks. Those who promote legalization of marijuana seem to forget that the adult users of today were the teenage users of yesteryear. Meth will NEVER be legalized, and marijuana should not be either. The youth are always the targets of these drugs, because the rotten drug traffickers know those young kids will grow into adulthood, continuing to use the drugs. Marijuana has ruined once gifted individuals. I have seen it with my own eyes. Promising young teenagers with bright, productive and law-abiding futures turned into blithering non-sensical idiots. Our youth are the targets, and anyone who promotes legalization should be ashamed of themselves. Look what the mota and meth have done to the youth of our Native American reservations, alone. Whole families have been ruined by the devastation. This is a targeting of American society by the drug traffickers that starts, first and foremost, with the American youth. Don’t promote legalization. Man up and protect the society you live in!!

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    Rabbit Reply:

    Thank heaven that a lot of people don’t think like you. Legalisation of marijuana will be on the ballot in california this year. Why? Because the voters want it on the ballot. All of you cop mentalities are the same . You would be out of a job if you didn’t. The same bull spit message. Weed causes people to do meth. Lies! Refer madness has been proven to be false a long time ago. But all you special people think that the rest of us have to follow you. Guess what? Not!

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  28. The crime element of weed being ilegal has caused the proffits to be real high. That needs to change. The weed problem has not morphed into anything. Pot heads are harmless. It is wrong to suggest that pot users are in any way responsible for meth. Most pot heads wish meth would go away. Meth sucks!

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  29. Rabbit,
    You aren’t fooling anyone. Cop mentality? How about just following the law of the land? And how about steering our youth away from drugs, whether it be marijuana or meth? Is that too moral for you to follow? Yep…I thought so. DRUGS SUCK!! You don’t have to be a cop to think so. You just have to have some morals and character. Does that make a person special? Damned RIGHT it does!! Pot heads are NOT harmless, and YOU continue to spew irresponsible information that young minds can be influenced by. Shame on you, and grow up.

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    johnny Reply:

    blah blah blah…..

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    Rabbit Reply:

    Do you believe that bull?

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    Jack Reply:

    Still slugging down the wine, are you, Guevavi?

    When you’re sober, check out what you wrote, will you, please?

    Hint: it’s pure fiction.

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    guevavi Reply:

    Jack,
    Accusing me of being inebriated because I don’t see things from your warped, left-wing view is a very retarded move. I thought you had more class and intelligence than that. I also thought you had more class than to ask for your donation back from Michel. I expect to be challenged for my views, but I have yet to see one challenge that has any merit. Morals, character, responsibility, respect for law and a looking out for our youth are what I brought to the argument. In return, I get punk criminals and their leftist enablers attacking me in the most baseless and childish ways, because they have no real argument other than to lash out that I am laying MY (read: my Nation’s laws) morals on them and trying to take their narcissistic freedoms away from them…that are, by the way, AGAINST THE LAW. Spare me your hints, oh smart and wonderous one. Anybody who does not agree with you is YOUR fiction, apparently including the good Michel, who was good enough to refund your money. Fair Weather Jack, good riddance.

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    vinotinto Reply:

    Dude what a person puts in their body is their business not the state’s. There is no authority on morality.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    I am always amased at how people think they need to police their neihbor. How they feel they are special enough to tell the rest of us what we should eat, drink, smoke. The three biggest killers in this country are completely legal, ATF. Then some want a be badge kissing A-hole wants to leave a comment saying “who do I think I’m fooling.” Does anyone on here have a misconception of who I am or where I’ve been? If so, wake the fook up! Ever since the first time I came on border reporter, I have explaned what I have done. I have explained that I have seen both sides, best of it and the worst of it. To be honest, I have gotten sick of listening to the republican, conservative bullshit that some of these guys have pushed. I don’t consider myself a liberal at all. But I do think that this country has conveluted their rules. And the spy on your neighbor mentality has gotten way out of hand. And as you have stated, who is the authority on morality? If Darth Vato’s ball fluffer is that authority, we are all fooked!!!

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    Tantos Reply:

    Since some of you haven’t read Upton Sinclair, here are some examples of why the federal government created the FDA and started meddling with your personal life:

    “radioactive beverages, cosmetics which caused blindness, and worthless “cures” for diabetes and tuberculosis. The resulting proposed law was unable to get through the Congress of the United States for five years, but was rapidly enacted into law following the public outcry over the 1937 Elixir Sulfanilamide tragedy, in which over 100 people died after using a drug formulated with a toxic, untested solvent.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration

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    Curious Reply:

    Hey, it’s darth vato’s knob polisher, what’s up??

    BTW, what happened to darth vato anyways?

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  30. Michel, radio saying 40 “Xed” vehicles roaming the streets of Nogales Sonora today. Have you heard anything?

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    Michel Reply:

    Yes, though I heard 30. They came in late Wednesday night. About as organized as the last bunch.

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  31. Insults, schoolboy attacks and distortions of facts seem to be all I hear from the peanut gallery. Some of you are lost causes who wouldn’t know a rattlesnake if it bit you. Soup sandwiches. So much for intelligent debate.

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    Rabbit Reply:

    I know, we are all fooked up. You are the smart on. You are right and I am wrong. Does that make you feel better? I don’t give a damn what you do with your private time. Why do you care so much about what I am putting in my body? What morality issue will you come up with next? Mind your business. We will all be better off.

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    Carmen Reply:

    I don’t give a dam about you, I don’t give a dam about you, I will keep posting stupid ass coment after stupid ass comment telling you I don’t give a dam about you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I don’t give a dam about you !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Rabbit Reply:

    Interesting……to know me is to love me.

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  32. Gilo del Cid is named Arnoldo del Cid Buelno

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  33. Sorry Arnoldo del Cid Buelna

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  34. yo digo que todos se kallen la boca i dejen trabajar i no andar abriendo la mamadora de mas.. todos tienen su precioo ii cuando te mueres no te llevas nada

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