So, Who Won?
Jul 2nd, 2010 | By Michel Marizco | Category: General News, Politics
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THE BORDER REPORT
Update: Milenio has a story saying Beltran’s people attacked Chapo’s people in Tubutama. But fue al contrario, no? Los Jabalines attacked Felix the Ice Cream Man, which means Chapo and the Sinaloa Federation attacked (and lost) to the Beltrans. Que dice la raza?
A … hitchhiker … from Sasabe tells me “it was a complete ass kicking on the guys who came in via auto,” suggesting that Los Jabalines got smoked, which would mean the Sinaloans took the worst of it, yes?
One of you, Mario, was amusing with this post when it was determined that the Jabalines painted large X’s on their vehicles so as not to confuse themselves with the enemy:
Se marcan la X pa identificarse entres ellos mismo pero a la misma vez valio madre, asi tambien los pueden identificar los grupos rivales.. they gotta come up with some new shit.
A CISEN source points out that most of the cars shot up were tagged with an enormous X, suggesting Jabalines, since we know that they’ve been marking their cars for identity’s sake. The hitchhiker says it was a pure ambush, executed nearly flawlessly.
This makes sense when you consider there’s only two roads in to the area, either through Altar to the east or through Magdalena from the west. Maybe it’s not such a bad position for Ice Cream Man to be in. He can’t get out, but the Sinaloans can’t get in.
If all that’s the case, then I have to wonder what the military’s doing watching the game play out from the sidelines. I’m not exaggerating when I tell you that there’s some 400 soldiers roaming up and down the highways between Altar and Tubutama; I saw them Sunday and a law enforcement source tells me they’ve been running checkpoints and waiting for the inevitable battle since last week.
Are they picking sides, letting both groups finish each other off or simply over-powered, manpower notwithstanding?
Then there’s this photo linked to above. This photo was snapped by a Diario de Sonora photographer, and though it’s resolution is absolute shit, I’d like to know what that sign means. The two decapitated heads were jammed into the bars of the panteon Del Rosario, near the border. The message, from what I can see, says:
“Saganle al toro autos Eber, M4, Colores, Navo …. ” and that’s as far as I got and that makes no sense whatsoever.
Anyone care to take that one on?
i think it says:
…y el cara de perro el chato (or chapo) ya vistance de (ilegible) esto les va a pasar.
I’d hate to be those two.
So anyone have any idea how the causalities are made up?
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who is Chuy Cabezón that they were storming towns in sinaloa looking for him
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The message, from what I can see, says:
Salganle al toro putos eber. m4, colores, navo y el cara de perro del chato. ya vistanse de hombres, esto les va a pasar.
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Mario Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 11:17 am
Yeah I think that’s right. Y quienes son esos weyes?
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Michel Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 11:28 am
Who put the signs up and who are they picking a fight with?
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talegon Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
tengo entendido ke esos weyes son gente de los beltranes y lo mas probable eske se los aya chihuahuado el gigo o yankee ke es el ke tiene la plaza y trabaja pal mayo y el chapo
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“Salganle al toro” – face the situation
“‘Putos’ Eber, M4, Colores” – fags, Eber, M4, Colores (probably nicknames)
“Navo Y el cara de perro” – Navo and Dog Face (more nicknames)
“Del Chato ya vistance” – of Chato, get dressed
“Hombres esto les va pasar” – men, this is going to happen to you
My take:
“Face it Chato’s fags, (several nicknames) – get dressed/ready – this is going to happen to you.”
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When you see dangerouse men keeping low key for a while, they aren’t just runnning with their legs between their legs. They are planning, regrouping. Looks transparent to me. Wait and see.
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There are a lot of people involved in this that are not just throwing in the towel waiting to die. They are going out like warriors. This is scary, but intersting as hell. More things change, more they stay the same.
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By the way, too many hitchikers. That’s how the cops spread propaganda.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR7ErESBiKQ quien halla estado dentro de las trocas marcadas con X no salio vivo.
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Se marcan la X pa identificarse entres ellos mismo pero a la misma vez valio madre, asi tambien los pueden identificar los grupos rivales.. they gotta come up with some new sh1t.
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ilegal Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
asi le hicieron en El Burrion los antrax y machos.
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Ice cream man and saboris valieron madre
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ilegal Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 2:21 pm
lol!!!
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http://laperladeldesierto.blogspot.com/2010/07/masacre-en-saric-y-tubutama.html
good pictures!
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So the X marked vehicles are Sinaloa federation, right?
Whoever’s decision to mark a vehicle like that must get demoted. Maybe they’ll cut his pay or a suspension.
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Rick Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 3:22 pm
A bullseye would have been more appropriate.
“Lets mark our vehicles with an X and drive into enemy territory”
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Mario Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Exactly, these cartels have so much money, they can at least come up with a better tactic, and its not just one X, its like a big X in every window..
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ilegal Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 4:41 pm
they only forgot a blinking vegas style billboard on each truck that says “SHOOT HERE”.
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Cesar Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 5:48 pm
as many of u know or if u dont know they have a corrido too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nml3EpdHhi0
“cargan una X marcada en los vidrios para no confundirse con los enemigos”
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http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2010/07/fotos-de-3-descuartizados-en-zapopan.html puro carnizero michoacano, just disgusting.
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Michael los paleteros jabalies y saboris andan juntos ellos fueron a sacar a los gilos de saric solo que fueron emboscados en una curva que le dicen la s donde le atravesaron un carro y no pudieron dar vuelta eran cerca de 50 carros y tampoco es cierto el negro sabori esta muerto se dice que los gilos trajeron mas de 300 gentes que llegaron desde nogales donde tambien vienen sinaloas, hay varios muertos oriundos de caborca que la mayoria son jovenes
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Michel Marizco Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Bueno, so we got Jabalines and Saboris and Ice Cream Man versus Gilos. Gilos pertenecen a los Beltrán Leyva, Ice Cream and Co. pertenecen al Chapo?
Así?
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anonimo Reply:
July 2nd, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Y QUE LES PASO QUE LO VUELVAN INTENTAR…QUE ANDAN CON TANTA PENDEJADA VALIERON MADRE RECONOSCANLO Y PUNTO …….fookERS……..
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juanito Reply:
July 3rd, 2010 at 7:38 am
Asi es el gilo se llama arnoldo del cid buelna que es gente del chuy y nacho gonzalez de batamote sinaloa y los paleteros y jabalies son gente de nacho paez que esta libre porque pago sus millonsitos para que lo soltaran y del chapo de la rocha pistolero en los 80 de rafael caro quintero quintero, los sabori son socios de los salazar zamorano el gigio es gente del chapo guzman en nogales, etc
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If you step back from this for even a month (like me) you will be totally lost. If you are not on top of this information daily, you are screwed, and to think, people think they can jump in and out of “the border” news, politics, etc. and know exactly what is going on are full of hogwash.
Good stuff Michel.
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Jack Reply:
July 3rd, 2010 at 6:38 am
Vincent, you’re so correct:
“Those that talk know nothing; those that know, don’t talk.”
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Can the military have set it up? The x marking is very military style.
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who gives a fat rats ass? que se maten uno a otro, son miedra of the first degree………me da gusto que se mochan las cuecas, las piernas, y los chiles………its perfect justice that they all end up dead, asi quicieron vivir. This is all miedra and crap of the first degree, they deserve this end, que a toda madre!
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For what it’s worth, there’s a third route to Tubutama. It begins off Route 15 to Saric and goes through a mountain pass and passes by El Ejido Arizona. (It’s good only for vehicles with high clearance.) Then, from Saric, it’s half hour on to Tubutama on a decent, paved road.
Last time I was in Saric, I asked about taking the road back to Route 15, and was warned off. “Two guys were shot and killed there,” said a vendor of tortillas.
That’s a pity, because there’s a rare, ever-flowing brook running through with masses of watercress lining its banks. And an old woman who sells homemade cheese.
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http://www.lanetanews.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2234&Itemid=26
aqui esta la version donde se mencionan los grupos participantes en la refriega, uno comandado por el gilo del cid que embosco a los narcos de caborca que aunque superaban en numero fueron masacrados en la curva de la s entre la reforma y cerro prieto cuando le tenian un carro atravesado y desde arriva del cerro que rodeaba la curva los venadearon, cerca de 50 vehiculos marcados con una x que huyeron rumbo a altar y sasabe
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they got three X, in the cars, suposely, it’s one for the chapos one for the cdg and one for the familia michoacana, the 3 cartels who are together fighting against the zetas and beltran leyva
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estos putos de los gilos van a valer verga. andan con los zetas y son muy pocos contra los jabalies los negros el chapo y la familia michocana. ponle cien por cada grupo… son 400 de los saboris y chapo y esos. son 250 de los gilos y zetas.. aii tu me dices que va pasar.
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oscar Reply:
July 6th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Pues ke va a pasar que les van a dar otra verguiza jajajaja no que muy fregones y que no se que
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ilegal Reply:
July 6th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
LMAO!!! es cierto.
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nadi en todo sonora quiere a los zzzs ni a los gilos. esto si se va a acabbar porque los q van a caer son estas mierdas q matan a inocentes
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well as far as i kno.. and i know alot, el paletero is in the sinaloa cartel, and they where fighting the gilos from nogales, they were fighting for the plaza, and yea el paletero lives in altar, not in tubutama.. and as of last week they made peace.. the gilos gave up and called el 8 de sonoita to end the war.
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