X Marks the Spot
Jul 9th, 2010 | By Michel Marizco | Category: Chismes, General News, Politics
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THE BORDER REPORT
Here’s a story I did on the situation in Tubutama for the Nogales International.
By now, the entire border world, from Nogales, Sonora, cops to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to the radio stations to me, now know that a convoy of some 30 vehicles pulled into Nogales late Wednesday night. Everybody seems to know this except the Calderón and Padrés Administrations, apparently.
According to a source at the FBI, nobody’s sure whether the convoy is there to back the Sinaloans who got stomped trying to take out Gilo in the hills or whether these are Gilo’s reinforcements.
I anticipate they are reinforcing the Sinaloa Cartel and I’ll tell you why.
The Mexican government and the Sonoran State Police have chosen to stay out of the fight in the hills; yet we know for a fact that Gilo, Hector Beltrán Leyva’s man, has clashed with the Army. According to a Border Patrol intel report, the Army clashed with Gilo on June 12 – and I think we can safely presume they lost that battle since Gilo is still there a month later.
It has been said in the past, by people smarter than I, that Calderón is focusing his efforts on Sinaloa’s rivals, including Beltrán Leyva, Barbie, and the Zetas. Depending on whom you choose to believe, the Mexican government is doing so either to A) finish off the smaller cartels to bring peace to the country or B) because they are in the pay of the Sinaloa Federation.
What’s going on in Nogales right now is a great example of this. The Army and the state police have left the convoy alone and they’ve been there some 36 hours now.
This suggests the Calderón Administration is letting the Sinaloans finish the job for them. Or try to, anyway. From what people are saying, the convoy has been driving around Nogales all morning. In the July 1 battle, the Sinaloans were backed up by the locals, Sinaloa loyals including Felix the Ice Cream Man, Raúl Sabori and Nini Beltrán but it’s been said on this website that the outsiders took the lead on that attack and that’s why they failed so badly. Here’s what one Nogales resident said: “Good to know the locals can hold their own against those pushy outsiders!”
To be fair, the road up to Tubutama can be tricky to find …(here’s a hint, Tubutama is to the west).
Someone buy them boys a map.
there’s an app for that …
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Is Sabori dead?
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now, since this time they didn’t mark their vehicles with an X, they are not gonna be easy targets, but they are going to shoot at each other.
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el gilo es un gordo asqueroso pecoso que les cobraba coutas a todos los poquiteros de saric y tubutama y al que no le pagaba lo mataba o lo torturaba, en la gasolinera de altar los paleteros no dejan llevar gasolina ni alimentos a los pueblos de arriva y ahara estan pidiendo hasta las credenciales para que se identifiquen y no sean de saric
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juani Reply:
July 9th, 2010 at 10:18 am
los paletero,saboris,jabalines ect….son una bola d matones,secuestradores y nomas se la llevan matando y golpiando gente inocente..el otro dia golpearon el senor k maneja el camion d saric a caborca esa es gente trabajadora inocente….porke no c matan entre los buenos k andan con pura gente inocente bola de cobardes…
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RATAS Reply:
July 9th, 2010 at 10:22 am
QUE PASA ENTRE OQUITOA Y ALTAR PURO ANDAR ASALTANDO GENTE SE LA LLEVAN LOS PALETEROS,SABORIS,JABALINES… MATONES, SECUESTRADORES…
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oscar Reply:
July 9th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Pues por que no dicen por que lo golpearon por andarle llevando pollos al gilo muerto de hambre por que no viene su gente por ellos en vez de andar mandando gente inocente como tu dices aparte que no es tan trabajador bien que va y les surte de perico a todos ahi anda hablandole a lso soldados ahora el culon para que le lleven comida y zapatos por que no sale como cuando iba a los pueb los a cobrar las coutas o ya le acabo el ganado a toda la gente que les quemo los ranchos a la gente ni la misma gente del cerro prieto lo kieren por eso se la llevan en su motito escondido en el monte que por cierto se la robo a un doctor. No le voy a nadie pero ahora esta pagando las que deben y ke bueno que se maten entre todos porke todos son una bola de basura solo que ahora se encontro con unos que si se defienden no como la pobre bola de gente que mato y torturo meses atras
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ahh y su jefe inmediato es el isidro flores meza “el chapo isidro”
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michael aqui estan las fotos de la emboscada en la curva de la s entre la reforma y cerro prieto http://www.codigo07.com/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5211&Itemid=32 fueron dos convoys los que entraron uno de nogales y otro de caborca nomas que los de nogales se adelantaron y ya los estaban esperando
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MIchel Reply:
July 9th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
¿Comisario Culón?
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talegon Reply:
July 9th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
eso se lo escribieron al amár ke estaba de jefe de policia en tubutama cesar santa cruz ke se arreglo con el gilo despuesito ke agarraron al jabali para ir a matar a una gente de saric ace unos meses “los kemaditos” despues ke los mataron le mataron a un comandante ahi en santa ana por andarse arreglando con los otros y le mandaron decir ke seguia el y renuncio y se fue para hermosillo
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Michel Marizco Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 10:28 am
Excellent; gracias, vato.
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talegon Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
just to let you know michel, el hermano del gilo acaba de salir de la carcel so this shit is barely getting started
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So How do I get to Aguascalientes? The 45 straight in, or the 15 and back through Guadalajara? Which is safer? Maybe instead of an X I’ll put “2010 Girls Soccer Champs!! Yay!!”.
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a local hitchhiker just told me like 30 minutes before those 30 vehicles arrived in Nogales, there were like 15 trucks full of Zetas cruising around town, and when the big convoy entered the city, they just vanished.
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do you remember this?
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/425477.html
three years ago, in cananea? this guys were killed, suposely by the cops, but the thuth is that they were killed by people of Sinaloa (chapos). since then, the government of Sonora (and the Federal too) is an ally of the cartel de sinaloa. “en la guerra y el amor todo se vale”, so i think is better to let them finish the dirty job.
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I assume these fellas are car pooling. How many do figure are in these number of suvs and such swirling around Nogales?
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This whole thing is disgusting. I respect a lot of people in Sonora, but this crap needs to stop.
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dijo el raitero, en sus palabras “se va a hacer un cochinero…”
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This video has great information about the Border…
http://www.youtube.com/user/usevolutions
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Rabbit Reply:
July 9th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
That video is retarded!!!
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johnny Reply:
July 9th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
THAT VIDEO IS GAY GREAT INFO ABOUT THE BORDER YEAH RIGHT WHAT A WINNER….
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Maybe they are gearing up to do a spy swap?
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bullet Reply:
July 9th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
any info 4 da upcoming months in cananea is it gona get ugly it seems like its getting hot all da chotas are riding around together
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Jerry Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 10:12 am
The miners are buying guns and ammo in Tuscon too (that damn hitch hiker again) They may end up being a bigger story down there than a few hundred gunmen. If they take the mine back all hell could break loose…you can just push people so far
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Where can I send money to Az to fight ese pinche lawsuit de los pin-chez de washington? Viva SB1070! I can hardly wait.
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ilegal Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 11:05 am
you better wait sitting on your lazyboy, there won’t be an sb1070 any time soon, lol!
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Darth Vato Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
orale ker-nal, guess you are a lawyer, you sound very en el medio de todo! Viva SB1070, I can see the mierda leaving from here!!!!!
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ilegal Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
did your family visit you and they are jusr leaving or what?…and another thing, i’m not a lawyer, but I see things from a real point of view, a law like sb1070 can only be aproved by the federal government, aka Obama and his gang in Washington, in other words, a governor can’t play president.
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Darth Vato Reply:
July 11th, 2010 at 10:53 am
no carnal I went to visit my old stomping grounds in South Tucson, talk to the vatos, eat some tacos on 12th con el Guero Canelo, and just get a feel of all the carnales. Chingo de vatos around there will have to leave soon. you are reading too many liberal rags, carnal. The law will hold and va ver un chingo de lagrimas, pero es que ya basta. Si no andan en pendejadas, there is nothing to worry about. You liberals make it sound like a enema (lavativa) is coming pero the reality es que the gunsights are on the mierda carnal. no traes mierda, todo cool, lleno de mierda, te watcho pin-she. You’ll see todo va estar muy ATM (a toda madre). The kids can walk the streets, I can ride my Harley y no me pega un pinche boracho del otro lado. Lots to look forward to! Y cuando llegue el rodeo, ther will be lots of room to sit around and lagartaer (lay around like alligators and chat). You will see it will be a better America. Caramba I can hardly wait, chihuahua I may even go back to Tucson and open a business on 12th! Fly the American Flag, put a vato out there wearing an Uncle Sam hat and waving to all the legal folks in the area. Ya me anda, carnal!
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ilegal Reply:
July 11th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
well, since you said you could see the mierda leaving from your place, i thought your family visited you and they were leaving already.
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Valentina Reply:
July 12th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Man, you NEVER quit. It’s like a vicious cycle. But you don’t have to worry, because your favorite justice (soon-to-be Justice Kagan) will be sworn in soon and she’ll help clear this mess up. I’m sure it’s going to go all the way up to the Supreme Court.
But anyway, I know how much you fantasize about taking Kagan out for a ride on your Harley.
As to everything being ATM, bueno, veremos.
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Darth Vato Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Kagan? Damn carnal, thats liberal stuff…you guys like that machita look. No carnal Im into real viejas, you know the ones that dont look like liberals. Esas liberals son wooty feas ademas se meten con all kinds of trash. entiendes?
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Darth Vato Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
I said carnal because I dont know if you are carnal or carnala, in the liberal world thats very fuzzy.
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Valentina Reply:
July 14th, 2010 at 10:15 am
You’re always discussing her cup size, so I figured you were into Kagan. There’s nothing wrong about fantasizing about someone, you shouldn’t feel ashamed. Regardless, we all know you fancy her.
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olivas Reply:
December 2nd, 2010 at 6:07 pm
de que hablas mierdaa si has de ser mexicana no hay nada peor que afrentarse de sus raices como tu lo haves imbecil jajaja aa chihuahuar tu madre la gente como tu es ala que deverian de sacar por farsantes llegan aa estados unidos muriendose de hambre yy despues se creen ya unos gabachos yy vienen aa mexico aa visitar aa sus familiares nomas pa presumir la troca que la sacaron aa credito de por vida pagando como un dollar aa la semana el quevive en mexico se la tyene que rifar yy arriesgar yy trabajar duro yy macizo pa ganarse el pan de cada dia mira yo sin el maldito sueño americano boy y me paro en los estados unidos cuando quiero ee yyy tu oo tus padres de seguro tuvieron que cruzar el desierto como unos malditos animales
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This website is straying more and more from reality. As is its creator.
“The road to Tubutama is hard to find,” Michel writes.
No, it definitely isn’t. It begins just to the right of the big clock tower in downtown Magdalena.
Michel also told us all that he’d be spending the 4th of July up in Tubutama. Obviously, he didn’t.
And because he didn’t, I’m reading such nonsense as, “It has been said in the past, by people smarter than I, that Calderón is focusing his efforts on Sinaloa’s rivals, including Beltrán Leyva, Barbie, and the Zetas. Depending on whom you choose to believe, the Mexican government is doing so either to A) finish off the smaller cartels to bring peace to the country or B) because they are in the pay of the Sinaloa Federation.”
Can I get a refund on the $100 donation I recently send you via Pay Pay, Michel?
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Michel Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Hi, Jack,
I was referring to the road from Nogales; it’s mostly non-maintained and tricky to find.
As for the rest, I let my work stand on its own merit.
Finally, of course. I just sent $100 back to you via PayPal.
Take care.
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Jack Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
No, Michel, the mountain road through to Saric is not “tricky” to find.
It’s clearly marked with a big sign to “Saric” off to the right on Mexico’s Route 15 – only about 12 miles south of the border.
But you’re right: that drive is a very difficult and dangerous one. One that any sensible person who values staying alive would avoid.
And, yes, I just got an email from Pay Pal to tell me that you refunded my $100.
As for the “rest,” I’ve been one of your biggest admirers, having referred scores of people to your site.
I’m fully confident that your site will continue to be one of the most insightful, foot-on-the-ground sites around.
You are one hell of a good writer!
Best wishes,
Jack
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Jerry Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Jack this sort of makes you look ahh what is the word????? small , no , petty , no cheap
send the money back bro!!!!!!!
if you are on the toll road(dirt) between Sasabe and Tubutuma and try cutting over to Saric it is a real puzzle. the players and cops on this site may get off the track but they end up letting lots of info slip out…it’s the genius of the comment section.
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bh Reply:
July 11th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Michael,
Just sent you $50 – and I won’t ask for it back.
Keep up the good work.
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Vincent Hanna Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
You’re creeping me out Jack, why are you watching what Michel does? As though he needs our approval to go or not go to Mexico?
What did you go through his garbage as well?
Freak.
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Jack Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Come on, Vincent!
Has one of the most insightful commenters here just stooped to name-calling?
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Vincent Hanna Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
I didn’t call you a name, I said you were freaking me out.
I was wondering the same thing about you though, do I agree with what you say or some of your stances, no, but there was no reason for you bash the guy. I could go on and on about what great things he writes or that he stretches dollars further than anyone to get people like you who are interested and concerned about the border (me not so much anymore, I’m retired).
For him to go down there and report this story would have been a suicide mission, at the very least they would have taken his truck, his gear, money, etc. And at worst…well, we all know what that is.
3 things you should never tell a man:
1) they are worthless
2) their dreams are stupid, never crush a man’s dreams
3) how to do their job, when you’ve never walked a block in their shoes
I’ve said my peace.
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Rabbit Reply:
July 10th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
I am really shocked at some of the readers. Michel is a real good dude. I don’t always agree with the guy, but I do respect him. To disrespect the guy was a display of ignorance so paramount, that I am almost without words. Thumbs up, Michel, for all you good work.
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Tantos Reply:
July 12th, 2010 at 12:46 am
Jack, maybe you missed it, but Vincent called you a name once before. It was “Know It All.” I’m sure I’ve called you names in the past also, although I doubt any of them were as funny and dead on appropriate as “Know It All.”
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Michel,
I feel bad that anyone would ask you for money back for the good work you do. Eveb though I dislike some of your cop readers, I still think very highly of you. Much respect, Michel. Its coming back your way.
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Being the best bad guy I can be is so much better than pretending to be some one else.
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Nice article In Nogales International, Michel!!
http://www.nogalesinternational.com/articles/2010/07/09/news/doc4c374177dbca2519680139.txt
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My question is assuming these convoys are Sinaloan backup, are the Beltranes able/willing to send people to back up Gilo and his group? I’m thinking it will be necessary to even hold that small area they control, or are in possession of.
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Beltranes people were done the moment they brought the Zetas, I am not cheering for anybody, but Sonora is a mess. Beltrans can bring a 1000 and they won’t win in the end because they are too violent. You can’t rule by fear, because when theres nothing left to loose, people have everything to gain.
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Let,s hope more of these pendejos kill each other, why should the mexican military stop the narcos from killing each other?
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pioneer Reply:
July 11th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Let me think….I really don’t understand your thoughts here. Let thugs have shoot outs anywhere, any time….This will lead to prosperity and stability in Mexican society? The last big splash of violence–the last Mexican Revolution left about a third of population decimated. Face it, Paunco Villa was no Thomas Jefferson! Though I share your frustration….it is a war over drugs. Nothing noble about that.
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Darth Vato Reply:
July 11th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
here here Carmen! Yes! Que se maten los pew-twos! Less chance SB1070 will have to weed them out in the future.
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When did the Mayan tradition of chopping off heads become popular again?
http://www.elpueblodechihuahua.com/imprimir.pl?n=10578&s=52537
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yanawana Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 10:04 am
it’s not of mayan or aztec origin. it’s human in nature.
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Tu Padre Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 9:10 am
The Idea of cutting of peoples heads at least in recent history comes from Mexicans watching CNN. In order to get the US to leave Iraq, the “insurgents” were cutting off peoples heads on CNN and scaring the crap out of Americans. That is why you have some groups of assasins running around calling themselves Talivanes not because they are associated with osama but because they are using similar fear tactics.
I remember back after 9-11 I went to ensenada because americans were not traveling and I decided to take advantages of the cheap rates. When I was down their some local asked me about the attacks and why americans were scared to travel, long story short… He made a comment “Those guys on the planes had Balls.” in reference to the highjackers. My first instinct was to hit him but I didnt. I guess he just sees the world through diferent eyes.
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Perhaps we need a return to civility in some of the above posts. This is the creed I live by:
The True Gentleman is the man whose conduct proceeds from good will and an acute sense of propriety, and whose self-control is equal to all emergencies; who does not make the poor man conscious of his poverty, the obscure man of his obscurity, or any man of his inferiority or deformity; who is himself humbled if necessity compels him to humble another; who does not flatter wealth, cringe before power, or boast of his own possessions or achievements; who speaks with frankness but always with sincerity and sympathy; whose deed follows his word; who thinks of the rights and feelings of others, rather than his own; and who appears well in any company, a man with whom honor is sacred and virtue safe.
- John Walter Wayland
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jerry Reply:
July 11th, 2010 at 7:21 am
James do get half way or three quarters through that thing before one of the parties in conflict shoots,stabs or punches you?
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James Reply:
July 11th, 2010 at 8:04 am
My other creed that may be more applicable here:
Best Friend/Worst Enemy – Your Choice
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Jerry Reply:
July 11th, 2010 at 8:31 am
“not having a dog in that fight works” better in the real world think: (Afghanistan/USSR… Saddam/ Kurd’s..Israel/Palestinians )
sorry for kidding your quote it is good advise
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Rabbit Reply:
July 11th, 2010 at 9:30 am
It was real good advise. He left a great comment. You left a good one, too. Some of us commentors always don’t agree, but we can still enjoy a good comment. Thumbs up.
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nadien Reply:
July 11th, 2010 at 11:35 am
There is no civility in a mafia war, not anymore at least.
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Vincent Hanna Reply:
July 11th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Well Phi ALpha Bro!!!…didn’t know this turned in to an e-dawg site though…
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James Reply:
July 12th, 2010 at 5:17 am
I’m jus sayn . . . .
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Mickey Martinez Reply:
July 12th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
HAHAHAHAHA.
I haven’t thought about The True Gentleman since
my beer-swilling, bottle breaking frat dog days.
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Vincent Hanna Reply:
July 12th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
Brother Nero…ha!
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CIUDAD JUAREZ.- Una megabalacera entre policías y narcotraficantes se produjo alrededor de la una de la mañana en la zona de Zaragoza y Waterfill.
http://lapolaka.com/2010/07/11/megabalacera-de-una-hora-en-zaragoza/
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Mega balacera? WTF whats next? Te matan por 50% discuento? If this was not real I would almost laugh! But sadly, not a laughing matter. Pero Saludos a lapolka por su buenisimo trabajo!
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en san pedro army helicopters landed and arrested sevaral a f i dressed cammandos that had taken over the town
y en cananea several people have been shot one was the owner of the pemex
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they captured the main operator for el barbie..next lo agarran a el ??
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J Reply:
July 12th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
They say that everytime, there have been a few stories in the last 2 months or so that have said they captured Barbie’s right hand, or top operator. Seems like they are going at Barbie’s group like they were/are going at CAF.
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Jerry Reply:
July 12th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
yhea and we always get “the #3″ guy under Osama
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bullet Reply:
July 12th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
yea la tortuga shit is getting hot out here in canapaz ever since that shootout in tubutama
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Thomas Lad Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Gonna be a hot time in the ole naco tonite………
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Pa’ que vean!
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&vanity=heribertoyana421
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Just in case anyone was wondering about Michel’s safety while working in Mexico:
Journalist killed in Mexico; 6th this year
(AP) – 6 days ago
MORELIA, Mexico — A reporter has been killed in a western Mexican town plagued by drug gang violence — the sixth journalist reported slain in the country this year.
The Michoacan state Attorney General’s Office says Hugo Olivera’s body was found in his pickup truck in Apatzingan.
Olivera reported for La Voz de Michoacan, a main newspaper in the state that is a stronghold of La Familia cartel. He was also the editor of the newspaper El Dia de Michoacan.
Police had no suspects in Olivera’s killing Tuesday.
The National Human Rights Commission says more than 60 journalists have been killed in Mexico since 2000. Press freedom groups say Mexico is one of the world’s deadliest countries for journalists.
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ilegal Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 7:44 am
…and some people dares to cry and ask for their money back while diminishing Michael’s work, like if ti was funny to sometimes risk the skin to keep people informed.
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Rabbit Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
At least some of us do apreciate what michel does.
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ilegal Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
i guess “that” guy wanted Michael to go to Mexico and ask the narcos what their plans for the contras were at that moment and when they were going to attack them so he can publish it here for “that” guy’s amusement, all for a hundred clams…
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Rabbit Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
That’s why I gladly donate to this site. Dangerous world out there. He deserves to be paid for having the nut sack to let the rest of us express ourselves.
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Esa gente vale verga la neta !
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I was talking about the video posted by flauta_dequeso just to clarify.
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Flauta_deQueso Reply:
July 14th, 2010 at 2:17 am
listen to the 4X4 hit the floor. Its real pendejos. They stole it all from Michoacan.
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Gonna be a “hot” time in da ole Naco tonite!
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So, I guess there is no recent word from Tubutama. We should drive over there. Jerry???
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Jerry Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Roberto..i’m going down tomorrow for a week.On Saturday we are checking out the new highway past puerto Lobos..come on down and lets go over and take a look at tubutama
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i wonder where the p!nchi SOBRINO anda and if he know anything about que agarraron al Ondeado en Quila y sus comandos de calaveras secuestraron a cuatro verdes y lo quieren canjear por el…
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something wierd apenning i think, the goverment made an oficial statement sayng the have important information on chapos location, they say this guy gave important info on his whereabouts.
http://narcotraficoenmexico.blogspot.com/2010/07/la-policia-obtiene-pistas-para-dar-con.html
maybe he is already in custody?
one more thing: does anybody know if the guys at 1:28 on this video are the anthrax ?? they say they are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7tTTy-5MIU&feature=related
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ilegal Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
the guy with the big red spot covering his face at 1:13 is el chino antrax and the girl sitting next to him is one of chapo’s daughters.
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alfonso Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
oook i see, tnx!
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ak47 Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
this same daughter?
http://www.metroflog.com/guapas_clnsin/20100120/guapasclnsin?pos=20100120&nf=
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ilegal Reply:
July 13th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
the very same.
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I don’t see how a couple of mid level/middle management could possibly have ‘valuable’ info on Chapo’s location. I doubt he’s ever even met or talked to those guys from Nayrit that got caught the other day.
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ilegal Reply:
July 14th, 2010 at 7:00 am
yeah, i’m sure if they had any info that important, the military would never release anything about it to the news, that if they really wanted to put their hands on Chapo, Nachito or MZ, it would be like a warning to them to move to a safer place…or may be that’s what happened.
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Suburbans guarding the roads east and west of Santa Cruz.
En el camino viejo de cananea soldiers setting up checkpoints.
2k???
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2k is in reynoza la malndroza!!
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Flauta_deQueso Reply:
July 14th, 2010 at 2:29 am
quizas…
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There is either one of two things going on……………they leaked the capture of these guys to alert chapo to run or they are just making press to seem like they took out someone important………..chapo i doubt will ever be captured the corruption runs to deep
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUDDMJQBioY los guachos agrediendo a reporteros.
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JrMaFia Reply:
July 14th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
what does this say…….sorry i cant understand spanish
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ilegal Reply:
July 14th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
the guachos are telling the reporters to move out of that area, but the reporters keep coming back where the soldiers are doing their job, then the military men start using bad words towards the reporters, after the reporters get pushed and shaken and their equipment damaged, one of the soldiers tell the reporters “we are kindly asking you to leave this area and stop filming”, at one moment, one of the reporters tells to one of the monkeys “you think you have big balls” and the monkey comes back to the reporter and replies, “what did you just say?”, and the reporter doesn’t says anything.
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JrMaFia Reply:
July 15th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
thank u
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My take on the Mexican ‘situation’ lately,
is rapidly gaining comparison to ‘WW2 war propanganda’.
All sides, releasing information as suits, each side’s purpose.
Even ‘Twitter’ which rely on daily, to provide, information where balaceras in Mexico are currently breaking out, is subject to the same skepticism.
Perhaps in this kind of socio/economic situation it boils down to who you know and what they know…and how much you trust their information.
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http://www.proceso.com.mx/rv/modHome/detalleExclusiva/81359 a message for la Barbie..
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Seems like both the CPS and police/Navy/marines whatever are putting pressure on La Barbie, I’d like to know more about the now fragmented Beltran Leyva organization and it’s two groups. I’ve read rumors that El H cut a deal with CDS for support to eliminate Barbie, and in exchange goes back to being a subsidiary of Sinaloa. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but Barbie seems to be taking hits. I’d love some really good coverage of this, this site is great for news, and other online blogs, but this kind of stuff should be covered a lot more extensively then just a documentation of the ‘tit for tat’ battles.
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I get a kick out of la barbie………..that convo between him and arturo was probably like this
Arturo: “Those zetas up north their military training is killing all my men”
Barbie: “I played high school football”
Arturo: “Your hired”
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talegon Reply:
July 15th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
i scored 4 touchdowns in a single game
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I’ve read on here the homosexual rumors and innuendo with Arturo Beltran and La Barbie, which is a little bit unbelievable, but I wonder how he worked his way into that position. He played football, which is funny, and most people I know who were involved in the that life, did not play HS sports, but dude was wholesaling marijuana enough to warrant local police attention, and I’m guessing his contacts were connected with Sinaloa, through the Beltran-Leyva’s, and it went from there. But, it’s a long road from handling 50-100 pounds of weed, to thousands of kilograms of cocaine, and running the enforcement arm for a cartel.
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drift Reply:
July 15th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
obviously you didnt talk to the kids that played SOCCER! im just saying, most of the kids i knew that were involved gravitated towards that sport, but with all the hate going on with Barbie i have to say his run has impressed me because he STILL hasnt been caught, walks away from almost everyone that has wanted to take him out and STILL come out on top, so there is some kind of charisma to his character that has a following of soilders loyal to him. just my opinion here,
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J Reply:
July 15th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
It’s impressive in one way that he’s still alive, and I assume still operating, but one at what cost? Did he have something to do with Arturo getting killed? He’s flip flopped a lot, which leads me to think he’s probably not wanted by a lot of people, which is why he wants his own thing. And also, at what capacity is he operating? The Beltran Leyva as a whole is thought to be ‘on the ropes’, so imagine what one splintered fractions status is. I guess time will tell, as always.
Too bad the site won’t be updated, this is def. one of my favorites, and the comments and stories are really detailed and knowledgeable unlike much of the information about the subject. I’d like to see a forum on here sometime in the future too, to continue discussions without articles.
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actions speak louder than words..and la barbie has impressed me..no matter what they try to do to him and his group..he doesnt stop working..
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THE BORDER REPORT
I’m going to be taking the next few weeks off from the site while I finish a project that’s really important to me. But I’ll return in early August. I’m not completely disconnected, if things come up that I think are really important, I’ll take a break and post de nuevo but I wouldn’t expect it.
Yes, comments will continue to be moderated, so relax. Especially you. And you.
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BF Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 1:32 am
Its good to know that we dont matter —–====duch bagggggggggggg
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Valentina Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
@ BF
Michel is not responsible for your self-esteem issues and it’s not his fault that you can’t cope with life. He said he’s working on something and he’ll be posting in early August.
Can’t you give it a rest for just a little while? It’s enough that we had to deal with Jack and his crazy rant.
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vinotinto Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
waa waa waa
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Rabbit Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
For sure, brother!
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here’s there fireworks http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e7e_1279202511&p=1
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nadien Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 4:42 am
Great link dude
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have a good break! I was hoping to buy new wheels and tires for my Harley, but instead sending $1500 to Az to fight the vatos from Washington. Go Az, Viva SB1070!
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Valentina Reply:
July 15th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Yeah, I wouldn’t invest on new tires if I were you. Perhaps they’ll come off while you’re riding. That is, of course, if we’re lucky enough.
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Rabbit Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
If you find some bolts missing after the accident, a hitchiker told me it was an accident.
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nadien Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 4:54 am
You should ride a mo-ped, or better yet how bout a huffy? That way you can send all the money you save on gas too! Racist chicanos are the worst kinda trash, how can you sell out your own people? A me no se parece vato, se parece Pendejo.
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Thanks a lot JACK…You’re a freaking JERK!
Hope your happy in whatever mental institution you’re in.
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Ive lived in the US sence 1959
i wasnt alwaya a good bearner but uall can go chupar each otherif u dont like it.
ive sppent over 40k trying to be in compliance in the last 5 yrs
now i missplaced my beaner identification card!!!!!!??
and my conect @ cbp says i got to start aallover?????????????????????????
help me please
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drift Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
no… your a Re Tarr, and Re-Tarr’s can almost bankrupt a casino
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Vincent Hanna Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
i guess that’s why they call it sin city…
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CNN) — An explosion in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, killed at least three people Thursday night, including two police officers and a paramedic, authorities said.
Up to 20 people were wounded in the blast, reports said.
Federal police spokesman Ramon Salinas said the blast in the Mexican border city was caused by either a grenade or a car bomb and took place as authorities were responding to “some sort of emergency.”
Earlier in the day, police announced the arrest of Jesus Armando Acosta Guerrero, believed to be a leader in the Juarez cartel — one of two drug trafficking organizations operating in the area.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/07/16/mexico.juarez.explosion/index.html?section=cnn_latest
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Mario Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 10:55 am
The Explosion captured on tape.
They were attending a wounded officer when the explosion occurred.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CItXmyWbOg
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ATTENTION ALL BP READERS!!!
IN MICHEL’S BRIEF ABSENCE I WILL BE ASSUMING CONTROL OVER THIS SITE…
IN OTHER WORDS EL QUE SE PASE DE RIATA SE LO VA CARGAR LA CHING@DA …SO EVERYONE IN THEIR BEST BEHAVIOR…
ALSO GIVEN THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CRISIS THE BELTRAN ORGANIZATION IS GOING THROUGH I WILL BE REQUESTING THAT ALL DONATIONS DESIGNATED FOR “BR” BE ROUTED TO MY PAYPAL ACCOUNT TO HELP FINANCE THE WAR EFFORT….. j/k
ITS FRIDAY EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!
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ilegal Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
quiuvole perdido, no sabes si ya soltaron al ondeado joto? dicen que lo querian canjear por los cuatro sandias que secuestraron hace como tres semanas en la balacera de la maxipista.
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Rabbit Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Were can I send that donation. I might as well fund some more of this senseless crap. Lol!
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you can see the pictures here (HQ)
http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2010/07/fotos-de-la-balacera-en-sonora-tubutama.html#more
careful (NSFW)
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Frank Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
Ay amár, parece Iraq
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I’m sure you guys could careless, but I’m going to post the status on Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla’s federal case.
The Notification of Docket Entry dated July, 1, 2010, states as follows:
“Minute entry before the Honorable RC: as to Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla: Status hearing reset to 9/__/2010 (I didn’t add the exact date, but it’s in late September) at __ : __ PM (sometime in the afternoon). By agreement between the parties (the U.S. Attorney’s office and his defense counsel, which now extends to five (5) defense attorneys), the COMPLEXITY of PRETRIAL PROCEEDINGS AND DISCOVERY, and in the interest of justice time is excluded from 7/1/2010 until 9/__/2010 pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 3161(h)(7)(A)(B).”
Notice where it states “complexity of pretrial proceedings and discovery,” there is an Agreed Order dated April 21, 2010 pertaining to the discovery produced by the government, which states:
“All materials provided by the United States may be utilized by defendant and his counsel of record solely in connection with the defense of this case and for no other purpose and in connection with no other proceeding…The materals and their contents shall not be disclosed either directly or indirectly to any person or entity other than defendant, defendant’s counsel, persons employed by defense counsel to assist in the defense, or such persons to whom the Court specifically authorizes disclosure.”
The order is very precise about the use of the discovery in ZN’s case, basically, not a single item can be copied or disclosed to the public and any copies made by the defense counsel must be returned to the US government.
I was looking forward to the kind of “overwhelming evidence” the government would provide in the case, but there’s no way anyone would be able to review the government’s discovery if the court does not allow it. This kind of action by judges and the US government deters from the purpose of the Freedom of Information Act and makes it difficult to truly believe that our justice system is fair and neutral.
Yes, it’s an AGREED ORDER and Zambada-Niebla and his defense counsel signed in agreement, but it’s possible that the only way they would be able to get their hands on any discovery whatsoever was by agreeing to the terms that the government firmly imposed. It’s disappointing to say the least and I hope that things change in the future.
For the record, from what I’ve read, analyzed and overanalyzed within each docket entry, he’s definitely not cooperating with the government, especially given the fact that he hired three (3) additional defense attorneys to his defense team within the past five (5) months. They are still dealing with discovery issues, so I can only tell if he’s going to enter into a plea agreement until after the discovery has been reviewed. That’s when you know if a case is going to trial or not, when the witness and exhibit lists have been filed on both sides and they are THIS close to picking a jury.
I hope this case makes it to trial and I hope that it’s a fair trial…I still have a little bit of faith in our trial system.
On that note, remember to ALWAYS INVOKE YOUR RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT (pursuant to Berghuis v. Thompkins), by that I mean VERBALLY INVOKE THEM – LOUD AND CLEAR. And don’t forget to request for an attorney to be present before or during any kind of interrogation (that’s basically invoking your rights and they (LE) would be violating your constitutional rights by asking questions after you’ve requested counsel).
It’s beyond empowering to know your rights, so protect them – it’s all you’ve got!
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Darth Vato Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
yea you’re right, we could care less about mierda from south of the line.
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Rabbit Reply:
July 16th, 2010 at 10:02 pm
That’s not aouth of the line genius. Wow, are you a graduate of rocket science? You right wing conservatives are winners. But, as usual, you are number one. Guess what finger I am holding up for you.
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Darth Vato Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 8:53 am
“That’s not aouth of the line genius”
Now there’s a rocket scientist statement! Caramba You guys are “carcajadas” deluxe!
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Frank Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla is mierda and basura from south of the border.
Comprendes ??
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ilegal Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 10:35 am
and yet, you gringos just loooove the Mexican candy, fraking coke heads, lol!!
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Rabbit Reply:
July 21st, 2010 at 7:59 pm
I admit it, that was dumb as fook. Would blame it on the alcahol, but I don’t drink
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ilegal Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 9:01 am
I also hope Vicentito gets a fair trial and the judge rams no less than 25 years to life in prison up his ass.
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Valentina Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
If that’s their objective, they better have more than enough evidence to back it up. Otherwise, this is bullshit and so is the “agreed” order that was filed in the case.
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Rabbit Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Do you really wish the court system on anyone. If you dislike the guy, I understand. But to wish the court system to get your revenge is scary. Wouldn’t blame you if you wanted to hurt the guy, but the court system is a little bit too much. But hey, to each their own.
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johnny Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
hurt the guy , rabbit none of these people even know the guy hit me up
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ilegal Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 7:49 am
do you?
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Rabbit Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Well, some of us do know the crew. Being from the sonora area, its hard to ignore the biggest guys on the block
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johnny Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
i know that i talking personally know the guy i mean cmon i know many of the major players in sonora etc. i mean to know them not just know who they are….. but anyways thats all i will say
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To Valentine’s info.
I do not know much about the legal process, but perhaps
the reason full disclosure is closed is because they can not say where
The info is coming from without damaging an ongoing investigation, or
revealing an embedded source.
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Valentina Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
I wouldn’t count on that, but you’re more than welcome to believe whatever you please.
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Also. If you do a bit of research on the net. You will find that the Miranda has been ruled in a few cases not necessary in the arrest.
Further. If you live within 100 miles of a US border. The patriot act kicks in and illegal searches by authorities [BP. MCSO. DPS. Park
Rangers and even USAF MPs] can pretty much do as they please.
The effect of this is people are afraid to speak up for themselves.
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Rabbit Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
What in the hell are you talking about? If they plan on using something the guy said against him, the Miranda rights had better been used. Or say goodbye to that evidence. And, as far as search and siezure goes, those rules have been in place for a long time. Things still get thrown out in bad searches all the time. Even near the border. There are a lot of cases that are being chellenged over the constitutionality of “Patriot Act” events taken place domestically. You would have to rewrite all the exhisting law and case law to get past a persons illegal search and seisure rights. The fourth ammendment protects, thank goodness. But maybe Zambada needs to get served. But that isn’t mine or your decision to make.
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Valentina Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG!
Pursuant to Miranda v. Arizona 348 U.S. 436 (1966), law enforcement officer have to read you your Miranda Rights, but pursuant to pursuant to Berghuis v. Thompkins – YOU MUST VERBALLY INVOKE YOUR RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. At that point, law enforcement officers (local police officers, detectives, the FEDs anyone working for a law enforcement agency), are not allowed to ask you questions without your attorney present.
“Further. If you live within 100 miles of a US border. The patriot act kicks in and illegal searches by authorities [BP. MCSO. DPS. Park Rangers and even USAF MPs] can pretty much do as they please.”
Again…WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG!
There is no such thing as a constitutional-free zone. It’s true that Border Patrol and other agents are allowed to search you without having to back up or articulate the reason for searching you with reasonable suspicion, but the search itself is not allowed to be unresonable or entrusive. And in order to enter your home, they will ALWAYS need a SEARCH WARRANT signed by a judge and supperted by an affidavit.
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Rabbit Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 11:59 am
You idiot, that’s what I just said. I said if his miranda warnings were Not read, there goes the evidence. I have told more cops to get bent when they have tried to marandise me. I know what I am talking about.
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Rabbit Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
Is that right, I just beat a case near the border, guess how? Ilegal search and seisure! Idiot.
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Valentina Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Were comments removed or did you call ME an idiot?
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Frank Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 2:11 am
Yes you were called an idiot.
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Valentina Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
And for the record, of course they read ZN his Miranda rights, by law they have to read them to everyone, especially someone they believe is very important.
I don’t know what “get bent” means, all I know is that after the Supreme Court’s opinion in Berghuis v. Thompkins, you have to verbally invoke your rights. In other words, you can’t stay quiet, you have to speak up.
If I knew anything about being arrested from my own personal experience, I probably wouldn’t even think about applying to law school.
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Justice Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
That sad little marsupial lashes out blindly when anyone challenges his
standing among the criminal elements.
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Rabbit Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 5:15 am
The reason I sit here and lash out is because people get on here and mislead people. People start giving people the impression that they have no rights. And they
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Rabbit Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 5:28 am
The reason I sit here and lash out is because people get on here and mislead people. People start giving people the impression that they have no rights. A persons 4th ammendment rights dommestically are king. When I said get bent, I meant I invoked my right to remain silent. You are getting hypertechnical. When your miranda rights are read to you, you had better shut up and consult with your attorney. Didn’t mean to hurt your feelings. I hope you do well. But get some field experience. It does help.
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Valentina Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 8:18 am
I work for a defense attorney. And in every federal case that we’ve worked on we get the Government’s Response to the Standing Discovery Order (usually there are multiple responses), within their response there is an FBI form titled Advice of Rights, which states the Miranda rights in English and Spanish, they also record the exact time you invoke your rights and you have to sign it.
The FBI and DEA, for the most part, are extremely ethical about procedures and they never mess up a case based on neglecting to read your rights. Whether you understand your rights or not, the burden is on you to smarten up. The same goes for their investigation, they do their job and they do it well, which is why most federal cases don’t go to trial. (For federal agents who frequent the BR: Welcome).
The law enforcement agencies that mess up something as simple as Miranda rights are the state and local law enforcement agencies, rookie cops, that type of thing. And let’s put it this way, it’s very simple to dismantle a state case. Very simple. Cops are easy to rattle and they are not as sharp, they don’t see the big picture.
As for the field experience, I’ll leave that up to you, since you seem to be an expert of sorts. Some advice for you, it’s not wise to expose the chip you have on your shoulder and the lashing out does nothing for you.
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Rabbit Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 11:58 am
If you read my first comment, I said that If his miranda rights were not read, they could not use statements against him. Then I said that things get thrown out of court all the time on ilegal searches. That’s true. I don’t bash you. I like how you are full of passion.
Last of all. I have been around for a long time. Been taught some real tough lessons about our laws and system. Case law is very conveluted. Judges mis-interprit the law all the time. This why people should hire good defense counsel. If you ever learn how to move around the court system expertly, good for you. Hope you do well.
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Valentina Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 8:12 am
Too much passion sometimes, you called me an idiot, so I retaliated with words. Sorry about that.
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Rabbit Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
If you read my comments at first, they were not bashing you. It was the other comment that someone else left. It then turned into a battle with you over rights. Not the intent. Just speaking from experience.
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who was “Pocho Antrax” ??? ( i say was cuz he is now deceased) …i never really heard anything about him (doesnt mean he wasnt present) but obviously he was present with “Mayito Gordo”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by4T1PMBYmY
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JrMaFia Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Los Antrax es un equipo de entre 25-40 que cuidan y escoltan a Ismael “El Mayo” Zambada. Un tiempo fueron los hombres de Vicente Zambada Niebla “El Niño” el es el hijo de Ismael Zambada. Despues que lo arrestaron, pusieron a alguien mas de jefe, El Chino Antrax. El junto con Pancho Arce, El Sargento Finix, El Trakas Antrax, El Pocho, El Cheyo, Javier Antrax, Peter Antrax, Gatillero Antrax y muchos mas hacen el equipo muy fuerte y tienen alto nivel de tortura. Estan respaldados por Manuel Torres Felix conocido como El M1, o el Ondeado. M1 es hermano de Javier Torres Felix (El JT)que fue y es un gran capo para El Cartel de Sinaloa. Varios integrantes de Los Antrax fueron entrenados por Javier Torres (El JT) Los Antrax Siguen creciendo y son mas reconocidos por los corridos que les componen. Espero que te aiga ayudado!
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Mario Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
EL JT los entreno? jaja con razon son tan “efectivos”, que super entrenamiento les dio. Se nota su entrenamiento vistiendo camuflaje con tennis blancos.
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ilegal Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
…los cuales son puros corridos de fantasia,”que la 5.7 atraviesa el blindaje, jajajaja” al igual que los corridos del ondeado “en la camioneta 4 viene el que planeo el ataque (se la lleva escondido)” y su hijo el tacho”pues tambien les respondio tachio (intento correr y lo mataron en la uida)”.
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FOR YOUR INFO Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 12:30 am
The Antrax are a bunch of kids that like to play sicario on Facebook and Myspace. They are the Torres’s and Zambada’s kids friends that freeload off them and pose with guns. They are nothing.
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JrMaFia Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 7:45 am
im just going by whatt i hear im not hands on in the field…………..
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no info Reply:
July 20th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
redel castro jr also known as pocho antrax was one of the sicarios for el mayito gordo.
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Enjoy:
Best pictures so far, no need to thank me
http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2010/07/fotos-de-la-balacera-en-sonora-tubutama.html#more
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Cyrus the Virus Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Thank you.
The convoy will enter the boneyard here. Initially, we take out the first car, then we take out the last, creating a trap… an airtight cage filled with lots and lots of dead people. Nathan, get everybody in position, yeah? And bring me those propane tanks!
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Drift Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Lmfao!!!!!
Con-air! I don’t know any quotes from that one! But turn on the radio and put on sweet home alabama!!!!!!
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Cyrus the Virus Reply:
July 18th, 2010 at 1:40 am
it’s about friggin time you got one, you’ve been slacking lately.
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ilegal Reply:
July 17th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
badass pictures, esos del blog del narco usualmente se roban las notas de los diarios, pero esta vez se la sacaron pa’ miar.
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Great Effen Pictures. Chaps people definitely lost that one.
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you may be a central american, you talk like if mexicans are the only ones coming to this country ilegally,..yeah, your are a salvadorian cerote or a guatemalan sewer dweler, or may be a mexican stole your girlfriend and you’re hurt in the arse.
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felipe heras Reply:
July 19th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
fook cerotes
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I can see that reading was not fundamental in your educational system. I get it.
Again, IF YOU DO SOME RESEARCH ON THE NET, you will find that ny statement is correct. My uncle was a lawyer in Arizona for many years. He fought very hard for the underdog and he is still well respected in the legal community. I know the Miranda and I know its limitations. It is sheer ignorance that allows you to assume that your environment is the same for all.
Also, in order to fight the injustice, lawyers are needed. That means money. Anyone out there that will do it pro bono?
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Rabbit Reply:
July 21st, 2010 at 8:05 pm
You are right. Not too many good lawyers that work for nothing. Or you can represent yorself. “Any man that represents himself has a fool for a client.”
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