Indigenous Trafficking?
Aug 16th, 2010 | By Michel Marizco | Category: General News, Politics
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THE BORDER REPORT
Take a look at this story in El Imparcial about a lawsuit filed against the German gun manufacturer, Heckler and Koch. The company was prohibited from selling weapons in specific Mexican states, Chihuahua, Guerrero, Jalisco, and Chiapas – all states with relatively recent conflicts between indigenous populations, like the EZLN, and the Mexican government.
The weapons, mind you, are being sold to law enforcement in the rest of Mexico. In fact, H&K carried the sole contract up until 2007 I believe to arm the Mexican military with G36s. They’re being phased out in favor of the Mexican industried FX-05 Xiuhcoatl. But from my conversation with a source in the U.S. State Department this morning, it is the Mexican government who decides which states it is prohibited for companies to sell to.
The government didn’t prohibit the sales to states like Sinaloa, Sonora, Baja California and Tamaulipas. Not even to Michoacan. Instead, the government of Mexico seems to be the most wary of states where active indigenous populations could pose a threat. In another context, la ameneza les viene de los indios, no de los narcos. Chihuahua could be an exception, of course, but I doubt it, Guerrero and Chiapas certainly don’t have their own powerful cartels. They have however, have had populations threatening the Mexican government’s right to exist in their boundaries.
I find that fascinating and a somewhat realistic view of what this border’s all about. There’s often talk of Cd. Juarez as a failed city. Some journalists have made it their life’s mission to steadfastly destroy the city’s repetuniation as a slowly collapsing exit into the rise of the narco-state. Yet recent economic reports suggest cross-border trade is up along the Texas, in some places more than 25 percent from last year, in spite of the cartel conflicts.
Perhaps the Mexican government feels it can bargain with the cartels in ways it cannot with its indigenous population.
i hope that’s true.
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I don’t see the Mexican government getting too many more spare parts for their G36s after this debacle. I’m not familiar with the FX-05 Xiuhcoatl but I’ll take an H & K product ANY day.
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LOL Reply:
August 16th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FX-05_Xiuhcoatl
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ilegal Reply:
August 16th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
same here.
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Found this on internnet. Wonder what direction things are heading now.
Mexican soldiers, members of a special anti-narcotics brigade, uproot marijuana plants in the La Puntas zone in Sinaloa State in western Mexico, August 14, 1995
Without the rest of the world paying much attention, the tortured relations between drug traffickers and the rest of the Mexican population have taken a significant turn. Following a series of hair-raising events over the past few weeks, it appears that the government of Felipe Calderón may be preparing to replace its aggressive military campaign against the drug trade with a rather different policy—opening the door to a previously unthinkable debate about legalizing drugs. Either that, or the administration is losing its bearings at an even faster rate than we had supposed.
It all started with something that is by now horrifyingly routine: a YouTube video of the gory execution of a Mexican policeman by a gang of narcotraficantes. Posted on July 22, it begins with the interrogation of the policeman, who was from the northern state of Durango, by masked gangsters employed, in this case, by one of Mexico’s most powerful trafficking groups, the Zetas. Such interrogations have been circulated on the Internet before, and, as here, they often end in death. However, in the course of this particular video the policeman stated that the director of a federal prison in Durango was in the habit of releasing and arming certain prisoners at night, so that they could commit murders aimed, broadly speaking, at the Zetas. The recent massacre of seventeen people attending a birthday party in the neighboring state of Coahuila was the work of these temporarily sprung assassins, the policeman said, as were two other mass killings earlier this year.
The policeman’s account gained instant notoriety, and came to the attention of federal authorities in Mexico City. At a press conference on July 25—three days after the YouTube posting—the Attorney General’s spokesman confirmed the story, adding that the R-15 rifles used in the Coahuila massacres were indeed standard issue for federal prison guards—a fact that had apparently gone unremarked before. Pending further investigation, the government placed a number of people under temporary arrest, including the director of the Durango prison, a chunky, tough-looking blonde by the name of Margarita Rojas Rodríguez.
What happened next was astonishing. The inmates of the prison rioted, killed a prison guard, and demanded that Señora Rojas be restored to her post immediately, surely the first time in history that prisoners have risen up on behalf of their jailer. Then, four local reporters who had covered the riot—two cameramen and two print reporters—were kidnapped after they left the site. This, as it turned out, was the work of the Zetas’ most bitter enemy, the Sinaloa cartel run by Joaquín Guzmán (known as el Chapo). The reporters’ employers—the enormous Televisa television network, and the influential newspaper Milenio—agreed almost immediately to the kidnappers’ demands. What Guzmán wanted was simple: the airing of three more videos. Homemade, almost impossible to understand, horrible to watch, the videos showed assorted terrified police, including one woman, giving the names of other police who allegedly work for the Zetas. Because it has long been known that every one of the drug groups recruit heavily from the security forces, some viewers were puzzled: to barter four human beings for such footage was like blowing a million dollars on pizza. But the question that has been left hanging in the air is not funny: will reporters’ lives be the ticket to free publicity every time a trafficker feels he has something he wants to get off his chest?
Two hostages were released by the kidnappers before el Chapo’s three videos were aired. The other two reporters surfaced at a press conference on August 1, given by Secretary of Public Security Genaro García Luna, at which he described an operation by federal security forces culminating in their liberation. The two reporters sat quietly—looking, rather unsettlingly, still like hostages—while García Luna read a brief statement and took questions. The very first one showed just how dismally the Calderón presidency has failed to gain credibility in the course of its three-year-old war on drugs. How was it, a reporter wanted to know, that his colleagues had been liberated by the government, while all the kidnappers managed to escape? Had there not been, instead, a humiliating negotiation the government was not willing to acknowledge? During later questioning by their colleagues, the freed reporters were unable to describe convincingly where they were taken by the kidnappers, how they were treated, and how they were rescued—maintaining a reticence that only increased the general atmosphere of suspicion. There were even those who speculated that the kidnapping had been set up by authorities at the state or federal level simply to distract attention from the shameful events at Durango prison. Were the kidnapped journalists answering questions—or rather, failing to answer them—under threat?
Other questions were left hanging in the air: what was the fate of the police shown in the three broadcast videos? Was there no government force capable of locating them? Where were the three federal police who were allegedly held captive in the same house as the journalist hostages? Had the media given in to government pressure to accept the kidnappers’ demands and air the videos? How was it that the governor of the state of Durango could denounce the prison scandal as if it had happened in some other state, and not, instead, on his watch? And what, come to think of it, had happened to all the rioting prisoners and to the prison director whose insouciant approach to prison regulations had set this particular snowball in motion?
All in all, by early August, the impression of a helpless government had become overpowering. Over the past three and a half years, some 45,000 soldiers and police have been dispatched to fight Mexico’s powerful and increasingly violent drug cartels, and to no avail: according to figures just released by the government, 28,000 people have died since the start of Felipe Calderón’s drug war, addiction rates among young Mexicans are ballooning, and, as the jailhouse incident in Durango showed so alarmingly, the traffickers’ operatives have infiltrated many state institutions. Meanwhile, bilateral trade in drugs (smuggled to the United States) and increasingly lethal weapons (smuggled from the United States) continues uninterrupted.
Such is the crisis in Mexico City that President Calderón, who is a member of the conservative National Action Party, now seems willing to at least open a debate about a radical change in drug policy: the legalization of marijuana. Soon after taking office, in December of 2006, he had refused to even consider the idea. But last week he presided over a series of round-table gathering of intellectuals, academics, and drug specialists and said merely that he was “taking note of the debate that has been started here, regarding the regulation of drugs … I think, first of all, that it must take place in the context of a democratic pluralism.”
The following day the Primate of the Mexican Catholic Church, an arch-conservative who has opposed making drugs legal in the past, said merely that the issue should be studied from a public health perspective. President Calderón subsequently clarified that he himself is against legalization, considering the evident risks such a change in policy poses. But former presidents Fernando Henrique Cardoso of Brazil, Ernesto Zedillo of Mexico, and César Gaviria of Colombia, came out in favor of the “decriminalization” of marijuana last year, and they have now been joined by President Calderón’s immediate predecessor and fellow conservative, Vicente Fox. “This doesn’t mean that drugs don’t hurt the people who use them,” Fox wrote in his blog on August 8. “We should see legalization, rather, as a strategy to … break the economic structure that allows [drug] mafias to reap enormous earnings … which in turn are used to corrupt, and to increase their share of power.” There is no question of legalizing all drugs, or making any immediate change on marijuana policy without careful coordination with the principal drug market in the world, just north of the border. But as leading Mexican intellectuals and public officials leap to join the discussion, a debate that has long been taboo has suddenly become the order of the day.
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Patty “GA-GA” Gonzales resulto peor de lo que se pensaba… (CHIHUAHUA, Chih, México).- Entre las identidades de los 5 probables responsables de la masacre en Creel donde murieron 13 personas —entre ellas un bebé—
, están las de Óscar Mancinas “El Guacho”, “José Antonio Casavantes “El Malandro”, Sandro Romero Romero, Luis Raúl Pérez Alvarado y Iván Montes “El Colibrí”, este último sobrino de la procuradora de Justicia del Estado, Patricia González.
“El Colibrí”, tiene una estrecha relación con Óscar Mancinas Pérez “El Guacho”, y José Antonio Casavantes Calderón, alias “El Malandro”, quienes aparecen como autores intelectuales de la masacre de Creel.
Los tres aun se encuentran prófugos de la justicia, sin embargo están detenidos Raúl Pérez Alvarado “La Chichona”, y Sandro Romero Romero, este último quien utilizó una camioneta de cuatro puertas, color gris para sacar a los sicarios que participaron en la masacre, misma que facilito “La Chichona”.
Cabe mencionar que los deudos de la masacra en Creel dieron a conocer en su momento con lujo de detalles cada pista y el lugar donde se encontraba el sobrino de la procuradora, pero nunca pasó nada.
Detallaron que ellos en su momento dijeron en dónde se ubicaba esta persona, qué carro tenía, por dónde transitaba y todo tipo de pistas para que lograran su detención, pero que nunca sucedió nada y que, por el contrario, al manifestarse y pedir el esclarecimiento del caso, asesinaron al papá de uno de los jóvenes acribillados hace 2 años.
Señalaron que incluso en su momento fueron callados por la propia autoridad, especialmente por una persona de nombre Enrique Pando, quien según ellos es auxiliar de Sergio Granados; este individuo les exigió que “pararan su escándalo”, porque si no, iban a sufrir las consecuencias, por lo cual mejor decidieron “bajarle un poco” a sus exigencias.
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Los Pinos 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGSF2iD0Jsg
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ilegal Reply:
August 17th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
LMAO!!!!
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The legalization of drugs (weed) in Mexico is getting a lot of attention in Mexico but not much in US media.
Any thoughts on how this will in fact reduce violence in Mexico if US does not go along? The importation will still be illegal at the border. I’m sure lots of discussions are going on about how this will change the practical process and flow of product. Will it be taxed? With all the discussion of legalization in the US and legalization efforts by California and other states, the paradigm is changing. Maybe this is the light to allow freedom of choice. The power of the mighty dollar, I’m sure will fight this legalization effort. Look at all who benefit in US from this “drug war”; huge budgets in DEA, FBI, ICE, CIA and homeland security. It’s not only the bloated budget ($) issue but the deception of forcing many good people to live a lie. Most people seem unclear on how to act. This is the reality of the spiritually disconnected. I pray: may we understand what is being asked of us, in the name of coherent intelligent action and personal responsibility.
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rofl Reply:
August 17th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
pretty much it wont be legalize if u.s.a. doesn’t legalize it. Calderon is the u.s. puppet like most mexican presdients
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Last night they killed “el tres erres” (rrr) and la raza is pointing the finger towards el señor “Dos Mil”. Is this his power move into the Naco Plaza?
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ilegal Reply:
August 17th, 2010 at 7:40 pm
what is tres erres’s name?
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gordo Reply:
August 17th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
I believe ramio rascon ramirez.
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Hip hop Reply:
August 18th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Retaliation for dos mil’s guy getting whacked in A.P. But don’t kid yourself, there are people trying to take 2k’s ass out right now. The Rascon’s are as close as 2k can get to anyone bigger.
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Gordo Reply:
August 18th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Who was that, the guy in A. P.?
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Hip hop Reply:
August 18th, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Marcalino Rascon, kadafi, all these guys are on their way out. The Rascon’s probably are done.
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12 Reply:
August 18th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
think about what u are sayin do u not know who kadafi works for cmon there on there way out give me a break they only work for the very very powerful and big time narco boss the number 1 in sonora dos mils main rival.
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Gordo Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Marco Antonio Paredes…..he is the one that kicked out Kadafi in the first place……so why would 2K kill a Rascon and not anything closer to Mr. Paredes?
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el alacran Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 8:23 am
la mierda esa no sabe nada
se cambio de nombre – un bajador chupaculo
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12 Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 8:32 am
thats kind of funny because kadafi still works for MPM so u need to get ur info straight dont talk about what u hear talk whats real
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12 Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 8:39 am
gordo im not gonna get into any more depth on this cuz i dont even know who u are too many people on here just tryin to probe for info.
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Calaca Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 9:34 am
STFU 12 MPM is on his way out and the Juarez cartel is already here, just look at all the Chihuahua plates in AP and Naco!
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Gordo Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 9:34 am
12 we need to chat sometime off line!
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Rabbit Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Which Gordo are you? Morales?
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12 Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
juarez has ap and naco yeah right mpm rules..
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12 Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
but hey calaca think what u want man but i know what i know mpm and sinaloa rule…
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Rabbit Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
12, huh? Come on Bro. I know that’s you. Lol!
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ilegal Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Gente Nueva also drive vehicles with Chihuahua plates, it could be them the ones that are being seen in AP and Naco.
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Rabbit Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
These coments are getting funny!! Look, MPM is the most powerful boss in Sonora right now. The Rascon’s are easy targets, because they are accessable. But there is no way in hell that Juarez is taking back over AP. That was a foolish comment. They can barely hold down their own fort, let alone someone elses. Now, Kadafi is a marked man. I believe they will get him soon or later. But Dos mil has no choice but to pick his battles wisely. He is tough. But I believe MPM will prevail in the end. Dos Mil has way too many enemies. Just because you don’t hear about it, doesn’t mean that Dos Mil isn’t having a rough time right now. We will see.
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Rabbit Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Because he can’t get close them. The Paredes are garded big time!
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Edge of 17 Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Marcos says hi and stop talking about him, he’s pissed ! Who posted the picture I took of Chapo in the hot tub ?
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rabbit Reply:
August 20th, 2010 at 1:24 am
Lol!
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gordo Reply:
August 20th, 2010 at 7:51 am
finally, an educated reply, thanks rabbit!
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Miguel Treviño Morales aka “Z40″ s failed attempt to make $500 pesos through ye ole kidnapping scam, lol! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mji8-89CFA
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nadien Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 1:08 am
That is fookin funny!!!! Nice one ilegal, estes pendejos se marcaba un amigo mio tambien.
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ilegal Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 9:33 am
“soy su comandante, servidor y amigo, Miguel Anguel Treviño Morales, con clave privada, “El Z 40″…”como dijo que se llama?”….”soy Tony Tormenta.” LMAO!!!…pinchis chilangos ya no saben como chihuahuar gente los ojetes.
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video in which Nachito can be seen dead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBjNDU5NTfM
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LA BarBIE SIGUE riffffanndoooo…SABEE..LOL
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Culiacan es caluroso… http://www.debate.com.mx/eldebate/Articulos/ArticuloPrimera.asp?IdArt=10123801&IdCat=6087
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Hey Border Reporter, no offense, but how come you’re falling behind in publishing articles?
I used to love this blog, but I find that I’m finding more and more of my information at other blogs.
The best part of this blog is the comments by readers who have close connections.
Recent articles are not interesting or informative.
You are letting a huge opportunity slip you by…..
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i though the AK47 rifles the narcos use were being brought to Mexico from Central America, not the U.S http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=30e_1282397780
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The owner of the site said he would publish articles here and there while he was working on something important. So, it’s not really slacking off. I’d like to see a forum here though, to keep better track of things, and previous comments, and allow for discussion about topics that aren’t headlines.
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 21st, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Here is something that has been on my mind all day. I know many people in the Sonora area. Over the past few years I have seen a lot of these guys murdered. Some people think that these people deserve it, narco scum. To me, this is really sad. Being judgemental in the face of loss, sadness and chaos, is something that every human being should be ashamed of. I have my owne thoughts on Francisco Hernendez (Dos mil), Los Paredes, the Rascon family. But my comment is this:
Michel Marizco has not wrote about a lot of the recent stories in Sonora. Right now the Rascon family is mourning the loss of one of their own, RRR. So what, right? Well think about this. What if that was your little brother. Would you say “so what” then? No. Its really tragic and sad. Kadafi’s younger brother was not a bad guy. Yes, he chose his lifestyle. However, he did not choose to be murdered simply because he was the only one that could be got, the less guarded. And his murder was senseless because it did not disrupt the flow of anything at all. It was a cowardly asassination. If I were ever going to pray for anything, it would be for the souls that have been lost in this despicableness going on in Mexico.
I have my own thoughts on the drug war. But I am going to spend the next few days, however, reflecting on my own losses, and the loss of other human beings. Maybe the rest of you will do the same.
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Victor Reply:
August 21st, 2010 at 6:16 pm
I have been very sad since the execution of my Idol El Sr. Nacho, he was my inspiration. I agree it is so sad that, so many of my Idols have been murdered by the military in mexico. I will pray to Jesús Malverde to protect all my narco idols.
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Edge of 17 Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 10:23 am
Can I be your next idol ? I will probably out live you .
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Gallo Reply:
August 21st, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Rabbit, i read your posts because you bring alot of insight to what is happenjing down south. You lived the life and now you don’t, or so you say. You say you paid your debt, all right. I will never sympathize with your latest point of view. Those guys, los narcos, chose that life and in the process they have done irreperable harm to MX and the US and to everybody concerned whose life they touch. That includes our kids who are bombarded by the crap they bring up here. They lie, and cheat, and kill to do what they do. You can grieve for them and mourn their loss but I and those of us who are law abiding will not do so. Why not? Because they were not honorable people. They were criminals. Enough said.
Save your replies. You said your piece and I said mine. I am not open for discussion on this. Cuidate.
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Comando ataca con explosivos dos patrullas de policías federales que quedan devastadas en el área del Monumento al Cigarro
CIUDAD JUÁREZ. – El Cartel de Juárez llevó a cabo un atentado con explosivos contra la Policía Federal.
Un informe extraoficial indica que el nuevo ataque se produjo antes de las 6:00 de la tarde en la zona del monumento al cigarro y parque las tortugas, al noroeste de la ciudad junto al Río Bravo.
Extraoficialmente se dijo que dos patrullas pick up con uniformados fueron devastadas por el ataque armado que se perpetró con el uso de algún explosivo.
La zona ha sido acordonada por decenas de agentes policiacos de todos los niveles y no hay acceso a la prensa en varias cuadras a la redonda.
Se desconoce el número de muertos y heridos, pero la versión es que el saldo trágico es mayor que el ocurrido con el carro bomba del pasado 15 de julio, que mató 4 personas.
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Today I am not arguing policy, suply, demand, criminal, not criminal, honorable, not honorable. I am speaking as a human being. As a human being, I feel the devistation that the war on drugs has made. There is no argumant. I am sadened and disappointment of all of it. Mexicao is a beautiful country that has been plagued by all of this. The politics of it is what it is. All I asked for is a moment of recognition for the souls lost on all sides. Not attacking any ones views at all. That isn’t open for discussion.
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ilegal Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 12:17 am
and lets thank Calderon for all the death and destruction his god damn war has brought to my country…pinchi espurio alcoholico de miercoles.
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 6:02 am
Calderon is the worst of the worst.
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gordo Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 6:54 am
Historically each sucsessor is worse, so were is the solution, the legalization of mj, that wouldent help the people either, My opinion is it is economics based, Mexico needs someone to reshape the trade and bring money into the country! Im am amazed that it has taken 30,000 dead for anyone to realize it is a war, and yet nobody steps in!
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Rabbit Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 am
That’s true. But here is something that is more at point. There are more billionares in Mexico than anywhere else in the world behind the United States. So where is most of the wealth in Mexico? A very small percent of people control it all, taking advantage of the cheap labor. This is part of the problem. Gonna be hard to fix the problems in the south. I don’t know if decriminalizing drugs will help anything. Personally, I believe the demand is most of the problem. Things have to change on this side before anything will change down there. I also believe that what you are seeing in Mexico is Governments trying to gain control behind the scene of everything. There is way more to all of this than everyone sees. But Mexico is a really beautiful country that is being terrorised over money. And a lot of people are dying for no real good reason. The last few years is creating a culture of brutality that is gonna show its face for a long time to come. What’s gonna be the answeer to that?
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aztexan Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 11:32 am
Empathy towards these corrupt evil bastards is one of the problems. Look no further. Every one of those killed in mexico, with rare exception, are guilty of torture be it themselves or their loved ones. They have all chosen to kill or be killed.
My cousin was taken to rehab several times for being a scum bag POS. Of course he claimed that he just needed the money that my wealthy uncle Sam-uel was keeping from him. Every time we took him, he was rejected by the facility. Reason: he is not ready for Rehabilitation because he simply has not hit rock bottom. The family was abhored by this claim but after several thousands of dollars wasted at several other facilites, it became apparant to all of us. The first Rehab clinic was right. My cousin did in fact hit rock bottom and was safely institutionalized, essentially cut off . He is a changed spiritual man now with a new soul and a new life. Yeah he smokes a roach before bed every night but otherwise a good man for over fifteen years.
The analogy can be drawn, in my estimation, with Mexico. The US/ world is slowly shutting Mexico off. the twenty five billiion dollars the drug trade brings them is offset by the twenty five billion tourist industry and the twenty five billion dollars in remittences from working in the US. The mexican people could have chosen tourist money, gas and oil money, and remittences from immigrants over drug money. They chose the latter and all that it brings. Plain old fashioned ignorance mixed with greed.
Corruption, from all levels and sadly from within themselves, is such the obvious culprit, that I ‘m at a loss of words.
Whether or not Mexico has hit rock bottom can be argued, but one thing for sure, Mexico will have to undergo a spiritual transformation.
Lamenting the loss of a narco trafficker is plain old fashioned ignorance.
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ilegal Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 6:19 pm
no, this one is particularly worst, in fact, i consider Calderon the worst enemy Mexico could have.
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gordo Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 6:49 pm
ilegal, why are you so anti Calderon, I am not talking down to you, I agree he’s bad. Im just curious!
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ilegal Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
it might be because i’m Mexican (born and raised in Mexico) and i know the kind of people that has “leaded” my country for decades, and i can say who’s been bad and who’s been worst, is not that i hate the man, but i don’t like what he is doing to my country, here’s one little example of the kind of guy we got for a president, every time a U.S BP agent kills of beat the crap out of an illegal immigrant, Calderon cries, kicks and tells the world that the border patrol committed a hate crime against a Mexican, but he never tells the world that every day, people of Central America die in hands of Mexican police officers, they rob, rape and kill illegal immigrants on a daily basis, and that fooking alcoholic doesn’t say shit about it, he also knows that the Mexican military it’s been doing the same thing since he declared “war” on the narcos, soldiers robbing and killing innocent people every where, the federal police doing the same thing and selling themselves to the narcos, and i’m not talking about the municipal cops, it would be a waste of time, he knows that the military it’s a danger to the people, and he knows it because he is ex-military himself, and yet, a couple of days ago he stated the as long as he is in power, he will keep the military on the streets of Mexico, even after almost 30,000 dead people since he started his little war. Now, do you think that’s not enough reason to be, like you said, anti-Calderon?
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ilegal Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 7:40 pm
here, have you ever seen something like this? cops running away scared and sh!tless from common delinquents. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=60b_1282498062&p=1
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gordo Reply:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:01 pm
I appreciate your opinion and honor it as well, the cops running from the car jackers does not surprise me at all…………they act like badasses to the regular people but shutter to the bad guys……Awesome!
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Comanche
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this is the site, blog del narco’s creator steals his info from http://sinfulmx.com/
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When I’m talking about defense god damnit your dumb enough to know we made it simple enough
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Tony we have 9 seconds!!!
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Well Nick, that’s what coaching is all about.
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It’s nice to hear you say that…not so old man.
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You talking about check balance? P.H.A.T. baby, Fat!
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The tone needed some upbeat-ness to it, you guys are making me want to cut my wrist, enjoy…
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If your going to act like pusyy! Raise your hand….
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All you crybaby sap sisters need to get a grip on both sides of the border.Things are actually working well for everybody.The greatest transfer of wealth from poor people to poor people (remittance from Mexicans working the shit jobs we’re to soft for) is setting the stage for a peoples revolt in Mexico that will soon change everything for the better.In the meantime the narcos are spreading enough dollars around to keep mexico afloat.US Companies have a flexible workforce that can be reduced with one phone call and we can all buy drugs to make our shitty modern American nightmare tolerable for half the price they used to cost.Cheer up, except for a few dead people things are really headed in a good direction.
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Hello uh…Commissioner.
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You guys are still going?..I think Marizco is busy with some shit or somthing like that..There aint much going on but a bunch of Sonoran scum killing each other..Nothing new there..Far as I’m concerned they can all kill each other..Barbie and Beltran/Grande are going at it hard in Morelos hanging people on bridges and castrating them before they die.Messages saying that if you role with baribie this is whats gonna happen to you..You got to hand it to that pocho he is all over the pacific in isolated areas but at least he has people willing to die for him.
Barbie’s respose: (Sounds like an educated narco..LOL)
.”Este es un comunicado a ciudadania en especial de parte de su amigo Edgar valdez villarreal ‘La Barbie’.Yo se que la ciudad de morelos esta molesta con todo lo que esta pasando y estan hartos de ver como no se termina,pero aqui esta la realidad de lo que querian saber. A mi me tachan de secuestrador extorcionador ,asesino y demas pero les recuerdo que yo,antes de que iniciara todo esto ,estaba a las ordenes de Arturo beltran leyva aquien simpre lo vi como mi Padre y el ami como su hijo y por lo cual yo recibia ordenes de.Ahora que el no esta ,Sergio villarreal barragan ‘el grande’ me declara la guerra aun asi en sus Narcomantas Me culpa de quemar casas,de matar gente inocente y demas,como si el no hiciera eso.el se cree Fino con estudios y por aver sido judicial piensa que es mejor que yo y se cree buena gente.que asta manda robar tiendas de ropa pa vestir bien.Quema casas aqui en morelos por que cree que asi nos iremos para simpre,mata a gente inocente para Echarme la culpa Ami de eso y que toda la ciudadania se ponga en contra de Mi,y el quede bien.Nostros no nesesitamos andar diciendole a la gente que nos apoye,Ni mucho menos recultamos alumnos de secundarias como sergio lo hace.Nostros somos gente preparada para la guerra y no necesitamos de gente que no save ni manejar una arma.Sergio Me declaro la guerra y ahora no la ve llegar porque esta situado en territorios donde no se puede mover para nigun lado y por eso Necesita de sus Alianzas con otros Carteles para defenderse,Pero no sabe que sus aliados terminaran exterminandolo primero a el. Asi que espero que les quede claro de la realidad de quien recluta gente no preparada,de quien asesina gente inocente para culparme Ami de quien arma sicosis en la ciudad para que la ciudadania crea que con el CPS las extorciones ,secuestros y asesinatos terminara, de quienes publican miles de “Narcomantas” y pagan mucho dinero a los periodicos locales para que sean publicadas.Soy lo que soy y estoy conciente de mis acciones y antes de Realizarlas y las ago con inteligencia sin andar drogado como “el Grande”.
PD.solo me resta desirles a que no salgan de sus casas si no tienen nada a que salir y ante cualquier evento en la calle traten de resguardarse pero tengan por seguro que yo si tengo entrenamiento y no como Sergio villarreal barragan ‘el grande’ que no save actuar ante una situacion asi. Con esto no les estoy pidiendo que me apoyen ni que anden poniendo gente ,solo no se metan con migo y dejenme Trabajar. Al final de esto ,saldra victorioso quien tenga mas poder y estrategia para poder realizar su trabajo.
Estoy consiente de que eh perdido gente pero sergio perdera todo, Nosotros podemos Ralizar nuestro trabajo sin el apoyo de nigun Cartel o de la poblacion que es Inocente”
KE PERRO!! El Puto.I wish they would both do us a favor and kill themselfs..ha ha..Stop taggin start banging..lol
Durango is on fire especially in the Santiago Papasqiaro, Tepehuanes and Santa Maria del Oro area.Not sure what its all about but one of Chapos/Coronels big wigs down there got murked Ruperto Ruacho aka RR and it seems like Panistas are disapearing left and right..Rumor’s are the Zs are back in the the north and parts of the south and Juarez is letting them gain there ground back in exchange for cleaning the area of Chapos/Coronels.They smelt a wounded prey and they went in for the final blow but instead of comming in threw DGO city and Torreon they came from the south straight thre Nachos old stommping grounds.At least 50 dead in just this month in that little area..
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ilegal Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 pm
que lloron el guero traidor, aparte de hipocrita diciendo que queria al Turon como a un padre.
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YeYo Reply:
August 23rd, 2010 at 8:15 am
I thought that was the best best part of the longest manta in the history of mantas..”Yo lo keria como un padre” ha ha.
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ilegal Reply:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:05 am
i think el grande Villarreal was more attached to Arturo than Edgar was, at father’d day, El Grande and a group of his crew went to the apartments where el Barbas was killed and they left five floral arrangements for him, they stayed there for like 10 minutes and they even shot some automatic gunfire into the air in honor of Arturo.
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ilegal Reply:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:18 am
here’s what Hector Beltran Leyva thinks about Edgar’s message to the people, lol!….CUERNAVACA, México (AP) _ Los cadáveres decapitados de cuatro hombres fueron colgados de un puente el domingo en esta ciudad turística del centro de México que padece los enfrentamientos entre dos narcotraficantes.
Un cártel encabezado por el capo Héctor Beltrán Leyva se adjudicó la responsabilidad de los homicidios en un mensaje que estaba junto a los cuerpos, informó la procuraduría general del estado de Morelos en un comunicado. Los cadáveres mutilados y sin cabeza fueron colgados de sus pies la madrugada del domingo desde el puente en Cuernavaca, urbe que los habitantes de la Ciudad de México suelen frecuentar para descansar los fines de semana. Cuernavaca se ha convertido en un campo de batalla por el control del cártel de los hermanos Beltrán Leyva desde que el líder de éste, Arturo Beltrán Leyva, murió allí en diciembre en un enfrentamiento con la Armada.
Las autoridades dicen que el cártel se dividió en dos facciones: una encabezada por Héctor Beltrán Leyva, hermano de Arturo, y otra cuyo líder es Edgar Valdéz Villarreal, alias “la Barbie’’, un capo nacido en Estados Unidos.
El mensaje junto a los cadáveres advertía: “ESTO LE VA A PASAR A TODOS LOS QUE APOYEN AL TRAIDOR EDGAR VALDEZ VILLARREAL”.
Por otro lado, en el occidente del país, agentes policiales encontraron el cadáver de un estadounidense dentro de un automóvil en la carretera entre las ciudades turísticas de Acapulco y Zihuatanejo, ubicadas a orillas del océano Pacífico.
Un informe de la policía del estado de Guerrero dijo que el hombre fue muerto a balazos y traía una identificación que indicaba era del estado de Georgia. No fue posible contactar a la embajada estadounidense para que confirmara su identidad.
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Just getting warmed up, what kind of genre you guys want? Wait, how about mafia/gangster?
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ilegal Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 9:47 pm
what’s on your mind, Vincent?
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 11:52 pm
You are all some sick twisted fookers, you know that? Lol!
@ Yeyo,
So you don’t care if us sonoran fookers kill each other? Come on, Dude! That’s rough. And Barbie is a Queer. Even if some dome fook does want to kill for his pretty ass, he is in deep shit, eventually.
@ jerry,
Well, it’s gonna get cheaper, the demand will surely go up. I still don’t think a bunch of dead bodies is worth all that. But who cares, right? Well, I care. The Mexico that I loved is gone. Sucks.
@ Vincent,
As usual, you really know how to make my day. You know, like a clown. Here to amuse me. You really are a funny guy. Now go get your shine box.
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drift Reply:
August 22nd, 2010 at 11:58 pm
guess what Vincent, the other day this daisysucker asked me to tell you to christened his kid and i told him for $7,000 you CHARGE!!!
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Edge of 17 Reply:
August 23rd, 2010 at 9:01 am
What’s up with all this gay crap ? Edgar is not gay and he can’t be “Barbie”, cuz I’m the only doll here ! LOL
Seriously, the guy’s not gay !
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ilegal Reply:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:28 am
i knew a guy who used to like to be called “barbie” because his skin was white, even though his parents were Mexican, and he loved to ride his motorcycle. One day, he decided to rob some money from a couple of guys in the States, and then he flee to Michoacan because he was afraid that if he stumble up on one of those guys, he would be as good as dead, when he was in Michoacan, a good day he decided to ride his motorcycle as fast as he could without wearing a helmet, you know, to feel himself free as a bird, after all, those two guys he robbed were in the States, far away from Michoacan, and next thing he knew, he was heading straight against an incoming truck, and then, a tenth of a second before he got squashed like a rotten tomato, he saw who was driving that truck, it was Karma.
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Edge of 17 Reply:
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:09 pm
THAT could happen to anyone of us. Karma’s a bitch. Like you’re so innocent,right? This is what I think is so hypocritical about all who are involved. No matter who you are, work with, or for, or know, this is the life you chose. The consequences will follow.
I really don’t give a rat’s ass about taking sides,I just think all the talk is a little much.
I lived that life with my ex and it’s not anything to brag about. I met a lot of good people believe it or not , and I wish no harm to anyone.
I don’t think you GUYS have a clue what the families, wives, especialy the chidren go through being surrounded by egos bigger than life.
Because I fell in love with someone who was,still is, in this business ,I have had to deal with the consquences because of the choices I made.
I do have some funny stories to tell, like “Our family vacations with the Mafia .” Son to mom, ‘If he’s going , I ‘d rather stay home. Remember the last time we went and the commandante had to have his guys retrieve the jeep out of the ocean?” Other son who was only 6yrs. old, “Is Dad going to wear his speedo’s again?”
Peace out guys.
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Jerry Reply:
August 23rd, 2010 at 5:42 pm
it doesn’t matter who wins, we mexico fans just need someone to win. Hell look at Vietnam…we got our ass kicked and now trade with them,go on vacation there and our socially awkward brothers marry their women. Afghanistan, our next loss (after Iraq collapses) will be filled with western hippies smoking hash and laying up in the Swat valley in 20 years regardless of who controls that beautiful nightmare…..
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ilegal Reply:
August 23rd, 2010 at 6:54 pm
don’t forget about what’s coming next, Iran vs Israel/U.S.
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Imagine that? This day in age, prejudice against Italians?
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You guys are so entertaining !
Here’s how i see it.
We’re all chasing a dragon, that can never be slain.
If all the ones who have died in this drug war,the good ,the bad,could speak,I think they would say,
“Why should I bleed and pay for other’s greed ?”
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[...] drug cartel. Cuernavaca, a city of 350000 and a popular weekend retreat spot for wealthy residentsEdgar Valdez – Edgar Valdez is reportedly fighting Hector Beltran Leyva for control of the influential Beltran [...]
I think Barbies faction has to be hurting, they have taken loss after loss since after the death of Arturo. Where are their groups passing their shipments through? I’ve been down to Cuernavaca, it was really a beautiful place, it’s a shame that they are turning it into another Tijuana, it takes long to recover from that kind of violence. I’d like to see a detailed piece on the whole Beltran Leyva saga after Arturo’s death.
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DEA seeks to hire Ebonic’s experts…LMFAO.
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Edge of 17 Reply:
August 23rd, 2010 at 7:56 pm
You mean this?
Ebonics;”Yo G,you frontin me?”
English;”Excuse me my peer,are you trying to influence me to engage in a violent action with you?”
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Tu Padre Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 10:23 am
I am just saying!
If the DEA was searching for a Spanglish expert, and some of the white guys on this site starter making jokes. There would be hell to pay.. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
P.S. They wouldn’t need a hill billy translater they got plenty of “good ole boys” to do that already. Sorry couldn’t resist.
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ha!, the DEA must be creating a new special branch within their department, the CWEA (Crack And Weed Enforcement Agency)
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Never realized you were so eloquent.
Especially after knowing that douche bag you were with.
What you described was the constant state of things all the time.
Always a crisis and drama. T was very embarrassed by that.
Even though he wasnt much better.
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Edge of 17 Reply:
August 23rd, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Which is exactly why I left.
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So what’s going on in AP? Seems things are heating up down there.
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Listen to sounds of cool, brought to you by, “DJ Calderon” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8PqznbjZE
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how come the U.S government hasn’t said sh!t about this gringo the soldiers killed? Militares dan muerte a ciudadano estadunidense
Ezequiel Flores Contreras
Chilpancingo, Gro., 23 de agosto (apro).- El Ejército Mexicano asesinó a balazos a un ciudadano estadunidense en el municipio de Coyuca de Benítez, en la región de la Costa Grande de Guerrero.
La versión oficial señala que los militares viajaban en convoy sobre la carretera federal Acapulco-Zihuatanejo, a la altura del poblado Cerrito de Oro, cuando presuntamente fueron atacados a balazos por el conductor de una camioneta tipo Windstar con placas del estado de Puebla que circulaba en sentido contrario.
Enseguida, los soldados “repelieron la agresión”, dando muerte a Joseph F. Steven Proctor, de 32 años y originario de Nueva York.
En el expediente de la averiguación previa Tab/Coy/ 02/133/10 se indica que los hechos ocurrieron cerca de las tres de la madrugada y de acuerdo con la declaración ministerial del teniente de Infantería del 68 batallón, Francisco Javier Escamilla García, la víctima portaba un rifle AR 15 con el que supuestamente agredió a los militares.
El cuerpo de Steven Proctor fue reclamado por su concubina, Bibiana Gil, originaria de Puebla, y por el cónsul de los Estados Unidos, Alexander Richard, quien en su declaración ante el Ministerio Público del fuero común exigió el esclarecimiento de este crimen cometido por soldados del Ejército Mexicano .
El norteamericano asesinado tenía cuatro meses viviendo con su pareja en las inmediaciones de la laguna de Coyuca de Benítez, agrega el expediente ministerial.
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FOUND THIS IN ANOTHER BLOG I SAY THIS IS BS BUT IF ITS NOT ?????
Denuncia Anonima: Edgar Valdez Villareal alias (La Barbie) se encuentra “recluido” por decirlo asi, en el CERESO de Zihuatanejo de Azueta,Gro. Esta ahi por proteccion de su amigo el presidente municipal Alejandro Bravo Abarca. “La Barbie” que esta recluido bajo el nombre de Jose Padilla Quintero tiene la proteccion dia y noche de la policia municipal.estatal,ministerial y federal aqui en Guerrero. De dia esta recluido en el cereso, con todo tipo de accesos y lujos….drogas,alcohol,mujeres y por las noches se va custiodado a sus casas de seguridad en Ixtapa,Troncones, y un rancho en Petalan. Se esta escondiendo aca por que ya casi lo encontraban en Morelos, pero sigue controlando esos territorios y la costa grande de Guerrero. Soy policia municipal y de los pocos que saben quien es ese tipo, nuestros altos mandos nos hacen pensar que es un testigo protegido y nos pagan 7 mil pesos extras mensuales por protegerlo y no decir nada.
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What you think goin on in AP. I been telling you guys they are cleaning house. Jjust gettin warmed up.
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ilegal Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
is it really truth that La Linea is already in AP and Naco? there are rumors also that Chapo is loosing parts of Durango that were his stomping grounds for a long time.
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move Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Rumors as in what yeyo just said and you hoping it’s true.
Like I always say La Linea? LOL.
What ever was left of Arturo’s former allies tried a desperate attempt to kick up dust in the Sinaloa and Sonora territories. The outcome was that they lost even more territory.
Give it up ilegal, no matter how much you hope and hope the Beltrans, Juarez, and Zetas are not making some big comeback to take back what they lost. They are just a bunch of kidnappers and extortionist now. Actual drug traffickers they are not, they just run tiendas to sell grams.
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ilegal Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
hey move, it still 2010, what the hell are you ding here? oh wait, chapo needs his balls licked again, doesn’t he?
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move Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
“oh wait, chapo needs his balls licked again, doesn’t he”
Balls licked? That’s the type of gay shitt that goes on in Arturo’s inner circle. You read it Grande and Barbie called Arputo DADDY. That’s some disgusting homo ass shitt right there. What kind of faagg calls this top guys El Grande and La Barbie and makes them call him DADDY, and Arputo type of of fagg. You saw it yourself with Arturo’s execution photos, the man had bloody panties on. Which means he switched it to a vagina.
ILegal keep that homo shitt where it belongs, in Artruro’s grave.
“hey move, it still 2010, what the hell are you ding here”
It’s just that the Mochozetas got their assess kicked faster than what I thought. That’s the last time I give them the benefit of the doubt.
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YeYo Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
LoL.Este guey..If you think Juarez isnt in Durango,Sonora,Sinaloa and then your an idiot MOVE normaly I would ignore you because you bring nothing to the table but an arguement over nothing..But Juarez is all over the Northern part of Durango and practically all of the Chiuahuen RURAL areas…YOU KNOW THE ONES THEY ACTUALLY GROW SHIT IN..The reason I know what I am talking about is because I have friends in and around the areas I speak about, and not the “Un compa me dijo” type but the types that live it breath it and shit it..Zetas have been in and out of Durango since they broke off to form their own set. They know the value of them mountains just like any other set might know..Assume what you want..I could care less.
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ilegal Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
so, the zetas were the ones who drove chapo’s people out of Guanacevi and Tepehuanes, Durango?
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YeYo Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
No..Its the Military..lol..Wink Wink..
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move Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 12:30 am
“LoL.Este guey..If you think Juarez isnt in Durango,Sonora,Sinaloa and then your an idiot MOVE normaly I would ignore you because you bring nothing to the table but an arguement over nothing.”
Oh really? An argument over nothing? I just call out bullshit when I know people are doing some wishful thinking. I never brought up Durango, that’s what you keep bringing up. You want to pump up the importance of the place because that’s where your family comes from. Again, DURANGO IS NOT THAT IMPORTANT, it has no ports of entry to get chemicals from Asia and coke from South America, it’s not next to the US Mexico border to gain access the most profitable market there is, and Durango is just some place you pass over to get somewhere.
As far as what I bring to the table, I don’t know but I wasn’t clueless idiot thinking the Antrax step outside of Culiacan to fight for plazas. That proved to me how misinformed you are.
“.But Juarez is all over the Northern part of Durango and practically all of the Chiuahuen RURAL areas”
And when the hell did I say it’s not. I NEVER spoke about Durango unless you mentioned it, not once did I bring that state up. You just can’t help but sneak that state you hold dear into these conversations. I do not care if La Linea is in Durango. I, like most, do not give a fookk what happens in Durango. That’s why no one else brings it up but you.
…YOU KNOW THE ONES THEY ACTUALLY GROW SHIT IN
Yeah but do they grow coca ? Or receive chemicals from Asia in large cargo container loads? Nope.
And Michoacan, Jalisco, Guerrero, Nayarit, Sonora, Baja Norte, Baja Sur and Sinaloa don’t grow shitt?
“..The reason I know what I am talking about is because I have friends in and around the areas I speak about, and not the “Un compa me dijo” type but the types that live it breath it and shit it.”
Good for you guess what, it doesn’t matter to me. You know why, because I don’t even talk about that state unless you bring it up. All I know about Durango is what I need to know. It’s not the place to be if you want to make serious money, and the people there are flakey about their alliances. That’s it, the rest don’t matter. I don’t care who extorts what pueblo over there. The only way the growers in Durango matter is if every single one of them band together and decide who to sell to and who not to sell to. And they are a long way from ever doing that.
“.Zetas have been in and out of Durango since they broke off to form their own set. They know the value of them mountains just like any other set might know..”
What? The mountains so they can hide, I bet it’s important to them. Durango is not the place you got to be to make money. The Zetas are not in Durango buying massive amounts of marijuana and heroin to smuggle to the US. The Zetas bread and butter is extortion. Which makes Durango and it’s small towns and weak police forces the perfect place for parasites like La Linea and Zetas.
“Assume what you want .I could care less”
Then why do you even bother responding to me then? You do care, it bothers you that no one but you thinks Durango is important. Now you want to pump up the Zetas and Linea because your hero Nacho was deemed useless and taken out the picture. Estas ardido como ILEGAL.
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Yeyo,
I agree that Juarez still has power, cuz they still got money. As long as they spend, it’s all good. And believe me, I had total respect for Amado Carillo. But those days are gone. And Juarez is a death trap city now. No control. Infighting. Even the damn cops are fighting each other. It all needs to end somewhere, but that somewhere is nowhere in sight. As for the Zetas, bro those dude are bottom feeding low life scum. And not to take Moves side, but what he said about these other groups getting their asses handed to them in Sonora, that’s true as hell. The powers in place in Sonora have been there a long time. Chapo backs them and they support him. It is the way it is. These people have Sonora sewed up. That is a fact. I wish Juarez is what it used to be. But things have changed. It is what it is. I wish chapo did some things different, but I imagine being a billionare drug lord is a rough job. How do you judge the actions of any of these guys, without seeing seriouse flawes. The last few years has been disgusting. Mexico has gone to hell. Who do you blame? Mayo? Chapo? Sorry, but the flavor of the month is to blame. It will always be someone or something. A lot of failed policy on bothe sides, and the whole suply and demand thing is to blame. We have all discust this shit a million times. And some wise assed cop speaks up talking shit. Acting as unhuman as possible. But reality is reality. To be honest, Move can be an asshole. But he still speaks a lot of reality. But I just dislke the guy cuz he called me a loud mouthed black man. Sorry, but I’m only black from the waist down. Peace out!
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
But all this fag talk sucks. Let’s act like men. Talk about something other than who was sucking arturo’s dick. Let’s have some respect for the dead. Arturo was still a hard core player. He deserves recognition. But let’s face it. They are psycho killers.
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ilegal Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
still obsessed with homosexualism, aren’t you? Move.
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move Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 12:33 am
Hey you are the one who brought up ball licking.
Again ILEGAL, your are forced to talk about gay shitt whan talking about Arputo. I don’t want to, but you can’t find a way around it, Arputo was a digusting homo that wore bloody panties.
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ilegal Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 7:17 am
and the reason you are always crying about it, is?
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ESCOLTA Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
neta ese guey ke se llama MOVE..es un joto..u know why they call him MOVE ?? porke no kiere ke batalles kon el..so nomas dice MOVE my thong to the side…pa ke me enchufes jajaja..todos sabemos ke la jente ke sale de durango son puros jotos pendejos..jajaja..
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lol!!
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Sorry to tell tell you this, but if anyone beleives that anyone other than the walls and chapo and company are in AP, they are just spreading rumors. The Paredes have AP locked down, and most of Sonora for that matter. Calderon’s war has only made them stronger. With Arturo out of the way, there is no one else left. Just the truth, sorry.
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La linea would not last ten. Minutes in AP.
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YeYo Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
The Paredes wouldnt last a minute anywhere out side of Sonora..FYI..Not trying to defend anybody but the Peredes are local folk who get money in Son and wouldnt dare step out of their comfort zone..
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
That’s not true, dog. But sonora is their turf. And that is the biggest corridor that there is. A lot of people have tried to take it, including Arturo, and failed. You clearly under estimate these people. Even Amado Carrilohad mucho respect for Leo. The Paredes own a lot shit outside Sonora. But these guys are real quiet for how big they are. You should recognise. I don’t work for them or Amado anymore, but I give respect where it is due. I respct them. Most of the rest of them I do not.
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
The Paredes don’t need to be anywhere else. They own what they got. Not many others do.
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cummins turbo Reply:
August 24th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Asi es Sr. Rabbit el patron M. tiene blindado todo el este de Sonora para no dejar entrar gente de Chihuaha (y por su puesto ningun otro cartel pero el cartel de Juarez es el enfoque). Esta encomienda viene de mas arriba del patron M. ya que Sonora representa una fuerte parte de los ingresos de Sinaloa. El asunto del 2000…digamos que para el patron M. es menos negocio y mas personal.
Sr. Marizco hay le van unos pensamientos: La Jota de David Figuera como consejero nacional del PAN mueve sus hilos para postularse como senador por el estado de Sonora…Que hara Padres ya que el sabe que la Jota de David quedo mal con mi patron M. y que el patron de mi patron financio su campaña? Porque no se aparece la Jota de David por Agua Prieta?
Saludos Sr. Rabbit y para usted tambien Sr. Marizco
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noseasmamon Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 9:01 am
“i don’t work for them or amado ANYMORE” Que imbecil. Te pasaste de vergilla mijo!!
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kris Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Oh, grow some balls and put your real name for all to see, Mr nosey !
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Rabbit Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Read between the lines, fool. But you are number 1, guess what finger I’m holding for you. You want my name, come bust me first, officer badge kisser. I’m not hiding.
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ilegal Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
hasta los chotas se la navegan Halconenado por estos rumbos, pinchis lacras, lol!
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So, who thought that it could not get uglier
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/703946.html
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ilegal Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 9:11 am
uglier yet, let’s see if Calderon cries and tells the whole world that this was a hate crime against illegal immigrants in Mexico, like he does when gringos kill Mexicans in the States…México.- Eran de indocumentados los 72 cadáveres que se encontraron en el municipio de San Fernando, Tamaulipas, declaró al Ministerio Público el sobreviviente de la masacre.
El hombre indicó que fueron plagiados por un grupo armado cuando intentaban llegar a la frontera de México con Estados Unidos.
De acuerdo con información del diario Reforma, el sobreviviente, que dijo ser originario de Ecuador, indicó que un grupo de 75 personas ingresó por Chiapas a México, y que tenían la intención del llegar a la Unión Americana.
En el trayecto, narró, un grupo de sujetos armados trataron de extorsionarlos pero ante la negativa de los indocumentados, comenzaron a dispararles, asesinando a sus compañeros y dándolo a él por muerto.
Dijo que cuando los asesinos se retiraban del lugar, él tuvo oportunidad de huir herido del rancho donde los mantenían secuestrados.
En su huída se encontró con una unidad de la Marina que patrullaba la zona y le pidió ayuda.
El presunto indocumentado, quien se encuentra internado en un hospital de Matamoros, a donde fue trasladado por personal de la Marina, fue herido de bala en el rostro y clavícula.
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J Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
That has to be some Zeta holdouts in Tampulias. The Zeta’s are, in my opinion, the lowest of the cartels, hopefully they can be marginalized by the CDG, and don’t continue on with the kidnapping, extortion, victimization of common citizens. I know they aren’t the only ones, but I feel like they are by far the biggest perpetrators of the most grisly, low, and unnecessary acts.
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ilegal Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
yeah, executing all those poor immigrants only because they refused being part of their criminal enterprise is just horrible, i feel that after this, Central and South Americans are going to see Mexicans from a very different point of view, and let’s not forget that in Chiapas, Central and Southern Americans also die in a daily basis at the hands of criminals including the ones who wear a badge to avoid going to jail, but this crime tops everything that has happened to immigrants in the past.
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Rabbit Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Dude, this is some of the worst low life shit I’ve seen. How sad. Like I said, the culture that calderons drug war has brought forth is something that Mexico will deal with for a long time.
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J Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
The story the news articles are running with is the men were killed for refusing to join the Zetas, which is kind of what I figured might have happened, they must be getting desperate, I guess reports that they aren’t paying or aren’t paying much must be close to the truth, importing men and women (probably not even close to ‘gunmen’ just people who want work) from Central America, and killing them….is just deplorable, I don’t have a better word. I’m guessing the mass grave was the result of 10-15 people a month or so refusing to join, or maybe 25-35 in the last two months, after reports of the Central American recruiting came out.
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ilegal Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
the forensic office said none of the bodies had more then 3 days of being murdered and the only living witness said all of them were fired up on when they refused to work for the zetas, hey were piled up inside a warehouse..
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J Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Truly disgusting actions by these guys. It seems like CDG clearly has the upper hand in the war, hope it stays that way, and the Zeta’s aren’t able to gain a foothold in the US market, and finance their war, without that, and in addition to the continued efforts of CDG and the military, hopefully they will be as finished or minuscule as ‘Los Teos’ in TJ, the holdovers from El Tres Letras reign of terror. Beltran Leyva, or CPS should know better then to align themselves with these people.
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ilegal Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
it might sound weird, but the killing of the 72 immigrants, even though it was perpetrated by los zetas, it happened in CDG’s controlled territory.
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http://www.rockypointnewsonline.com/ AP criminal gunned down in Puerto penasco…he should have stayed on the boat
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una cosa, o la pinchi DEA grew some balls and they are finally getting to see some action in Murder City, or the Chapos or Linea are doing some shit disguised as DEA agents with the help of mexi-cops.
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drift Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
i kind of think of what Move says in a way cuz he thinks this out but i think hes with law enforcement and i find him to be credible IMO, but when he says that La Linea is dying out, i kind of find that hard to believe. These past weeks that ive been in Juarez after the federales were being lit up like xmas trees and the infighting with the same federales with one another goes to say that there are 2 groups with the gente nueva fighting with eachother, and the federales being found dismembered and being chased in cars that are being shot up in wild car chases tells me one thing. The broads at the bars are putting finger on the federales being there by a halcon that works with them or the parking attendants, then the other day when i was roaming at 4am i was pulled over in 3 roadblocks throughout the city, ALL municipales, before it was the army or the federales pulling you over in the checkpoints but it has changed completely, now for some of these federales being picked up and somehow all of a sudden being dumped tells me that it’s the municipales taking them in on charges of drunk driving and being turned over to La Linea. the federales are not in the streets like before in full force, they are having theyre asses handed to them by La Linea, now i could care now which group wins but God Damn!!! sometimes enough is enough, throw in the towel or something and the DEA being in Chihuahua says set up all over it with them being in MX working says Chapo gave up someone important to settle some of the bad blood between his groups or some of the Linea heavyweights is about to fall
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ilegal Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
the ministeriales are the ones helping La Linea out, in fact, all the members of Los Linces are active ministeriales, but not everybody knows who they are, you know, siempre andan encapuchados.
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
I agree that Move is afiliated. But no matter what, his assesments and info is pretty good. And for being a cop he does have a semi real side to him. but you are right, enough is enough. But Juarez still has money. As long as they are spending, this shit will continue.
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J Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
I’ve been speculating for months, and more recently, after the car bombs, that Juarez is almost done, but it doesn’t seem to be the case, I guess. I’d like to see some coverage on the status of the Juarez group, but sometimes that kind of thing can be impossible to get actual information, not rumors and hearsay. They are going at the police hard, but they haven’t left bodies for Chapo with a message in awhile. I guess an easy, fairly accurate assessment is down but not out.
Who is leading the fight against Chapo? I know VCF is the boss, but someone has to be calling the shots from the ground.
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Fuerzas federales y oficiales con las siglas de la Drug Enforcement Agency catean casas al norte de la ciudad
CHIHUAHUA.- Fuerzas federales realizaron el segundo cateo domiciliario en busca de posibles secuestrados, acopio de armas de fuego y vehículos en esta ocasión en el fraccionamiento Los Olivos al norte de la ciudad, durante la madrugada de este miércoles.
Según testimonios de vecinos, varios de los armados que llegaron en caravana en vehículos oficiales de la policía federal y camionetas “civiles” -sin logos-, no vestían uniforme, pero sí chamarras con las siglas en la espalda “DEA”, lo que ha generado el rumor que posiblemente se trate de agentes norteamericanos en territorio mexicano.
El despliegue de unidades al interior del residencial se efectuó de manera sigilosa a partir de las 04:00 horas retirándose del lugar al filo de las 6 de la mañana y se conoció que el cateo se llevó a cabo tumbando puertas de varias viviendas no habitadas, con la molestia y protesta de varios de los vecinos que aterrados observaban la operación.
Al igual que en la primera acción de ésta índole realizada el pasado viernes 20 del mes en curso, en el exclusivo fraccionamiento Puerta de Hierro, las autoridades federales no han emitido información oficial sobre qué o a quiénes buscan, ni tampoco si han obtenido resultados.
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Move is a cop now? Shieeeeeet son.
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D_Nephew Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..ESE “MOVE” ES PURO PAJARO NALGON…………….YA LO TENGO BIEN UBICADO……NOMAS LE GUSTA HABLAR A LO PENDEJO Y MAMARSELA AL CHAPO PORKE TIENE UNOS PRIMOS POQUITEROS KE CREEN PARTE DEL CARTEL SINALOENSE….. Y LOS BELTRAN SIGUEN RIFANDO LE PESE A KIEN LE PESE…..TONTA TRAS TONTA POR EL MONTE Y DESIERTO…..AY TAMOS…..MOCHOMERA MAX 2010
P.S. RABBIT THE PAREDES ARE REGIONAL BOSSES Y HASTA AHI ASI COMO CAYO EL JABALI LE DAN PA BAJO A LOS PAREDES….BLINDADOS AL 100 NO ESTAN……
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Rabbit Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
You are right, Amigo, all I’m saying is that they have been around for a long time and are very powerful. No argument, here. I was just saying that these guys hold down their fort real well.
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Rabbit Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
I will take Paredes over Jabali any day. Did you see the story Jabali gave the camera when he got picked up? I resepcted Jabali before that. Now, I am not so sure. I mean the whole thing looked staged, but who knows. Besides, I heard a rumor that Jabali and Paredes were working together, anyway. But I hear you. It’s all good.
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YeYo Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Move is here posting because I decided we needed him here for some little girl drama..Just ask around..I dont lie..I dont care..He aint no Cop he is to emotionally involved in swinging on chapos nutz..If you notice he only comes out of the wood works whe Chapos name comes up.
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
I don’t know, every time he shows up I smell bacon.
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Really off topic here, but have any of you read ‘Shadow In The City’ by Charles Bowde, (who wrote ‘Down By The River’. It’s a supposedly true story told in a fictional manner, with no real dates, times, locations, about an undercover cop doing a major deal with Columbian/Mexican traffickers, I read it a few years ago, bought it, and read it again tonight, the book really bothers me, the manner and style which it is written is just irritating, and the main character is just a scumbag. I don’t know what to make of the book, most of it seems like fiction, but it is billed as non fiction by a repetuniable author. Anyone else read this? What were your thoughts?
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Jerry Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 8:17 am
I like Bowden but that book sucked..sort of reminded me of that crappy Miami Vice movie in tone.World weary crooked cops….boring stuff….heard him on NPR a few months ago talking about the big picture….If he’s right mexico is already ruled by the cartels and we are all screwed….no hope…I sometimes see him at the Time market in Tucson.If the truly terrible Barista girl is making coffee he just looks in the window and turns around.She noticed last time and said to her friend “fook him he doesn’t tip anyways”
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I love the ‘Miami Vice’ movie, but that book is so over the top, and doesn’t seemed based in any reality I am aware of. How does an ‘undercover cop’ stay under for YEARS at a time, with gunmen on his payroll? The whole story was unbelievable imo, and the world weary stuff was way over done, I agree with you there.
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here’s a story about a girl who was kidnapped by los zetas and survived to tell what he saw…Marisolina no tenía parientes en Estados Unidos y mucho menos en El Salvador que quisiera pagar 3 mil dólares para que Los Zetas, que la tenían secuestrada, la dejaran libre. “Con algo nos vas a tener que pagar güerita”, la amenazaban los primeros días de cautiverio.
No hubo nadie que respondiera por ella. Antes de la semana de que la “levantaron” de la orilla del tren, en Coatzacoalcos, Veracruz, la convirtieron en la cocinera de los migrantes secuestrados y de los jefes de casa de seguridad. “Al principio sólo les cocinaba pero cuando me agarraron confianza me dieron su ropa para que se las lavara”, relata.
Una noche, al terminar de servir la cena, el hombre, a quien todos apodaban El Perro, que era como el jefe de la casa de seguridad, se emborrachó, se metió mucha cocaína y le pidió que se sentara a platicar con él. En ese momento le preguntó: “Güerita: ¿sabes porque traigo la ropa tan sucia?
Marisolina recuerda que le tenía mucho miedo a ese hombre porque siempre traía una arma colgando y maltrataba mucho a los migrantes. “Le dije que imaginaba que arreglaban las camionetas en las que trasladaban a los centroamericanos”.
El Perro soltó tremenda carcajada y dijo: Yo soy el carnicero. No hago nada de mecánica. Mi trabajo es deshacerme de la basura que no paga.
Atemorizada aún, relata aquel momento: “De manera burlona y sin ningún remordimiento me contó que él era el encargado de matar a los migrantes que no tenían para pagar el rescate. Dijo: primero los hago en cachitos para que quepan en los tambos y luego les prendo fuego hasta que no queda nada de esos pendejos”.
Esa noche no pudo dormir. Estaba atenta a cualquier ruido. Escuchó entrar y salir gente de la casa pero no tuvo el valor de asomarse a ver qué pasaba. A la mañana siguiente El Perro, le dio a la lavar la ropa.
Guarda silencio unos minutos antes de continuar su relato. Sin parar de llorar cuenta: “Yo lavé, muchas veces, la sangre de esa gente. Al tallar la ropa salían los pedazos de carne. Todo olía a hollín, que para mí, eso significa olor a muerte”.
Marisolina estuvo tres meses bajo el cautiverio de un grupo que se hacía llamar Los Zetas. Ya sea en sus parrandas o en las reuniones para arreglar negocios, ella era la encargada de servirles la comida a los jefes. “Cuando se juntaban los escuchaba decir que Los Zetas era un organización muy respetable. A veces me llevaban a un hotel que rentaban en Coatzacoalcos. Ahí pude identificar la cadena de mando de La compañía como ellos le decían a su organización”.
Los soldados, revela, eran los que cuidaban de día y de noche a los migrantes. “Luego estaban los Alfa, a ellos los escuché muchas veces hablar con los policías, con los de migración o con los maquinistas. Ellos les avisaban cuando venía un grupo numeroso de centroamericanos en el tren, o cuando los habían detenido.
Tratando de disimular el acento salvadoreño, recuerda haber ubicado a seis carniceros, uno por cada casa de seguridad. “Arriba de los carniceros estaban los meros jefes, ellos daban orden de cuántos desaparecer”.
Se cubre el rostro al recordar que ella conocía a muchos de los desaparecidos. “Un día me ordenaron que subiera la comida a un cuarto al que nunca había entrado. El puro olor de ese lugar me hacía llorar. Ahí tenían a los amarrados. Ellos eran los que no podían pagar y estaban en la lista para ser asesinados. Los tenían cubiertos de los ojos y esposados de las manos. Ya no salían de ahí más que para morir. A muchos les di de comer en la noche y a la mañana siguiente ya no estaban. Y entonces subían a otros. Vi desaparecer a muchos. Y me duele que no pude ayudar a ninguno, aunque muchos me suplicaban”.
Una noche, tras un operativo del Ejército en una de las casas de seguridad de Los Zetas, donde rescataron a otros migrantes, El Perro le pidió a Marisolina y a una amiga que lo acompañaran a comprar cigarros y refrescos. Afuera de una tienda las dejaron ir, no sin antes advertirles que no dejaran que su boca las matara.
Largas caminatas, días y noches sin comer, precedieron a la denuncia de su cautiverio bajo el mando de Los Zetas. “No queríamos hablar con la policía porque no confiábamos en nadie. Accedimos porque la gente de la Comisión Nacional de Derechos Humanos, que nos ayudaron mucho, dijeron que nuestro testimonio podía servir para evitar que otra persona sufriera lo mismo que nosotras”.
Pero la peor decepción vino después cuando personal de la Procuraduría General de la República les informó que su situación de víctimas cambiaría a la de indiciadas porque “existía la sospecha de que fuéramos gente de Los Zetas, no podían creer que después de conocer la forma de operar de estos criminales, nos hubieran dejado libres así nomas”.
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picture of the 72 dead immigrants http://www.noroeste.com.mx/imagen.php?archivo=10082610005744954066.jpg&medida=9
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Rabbit Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
That shit is sad, Bro. Some real bullshit.
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ilegal Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
hey Rabbit, have you heard what Calderon thinks about this? ,..oh wait, those poor people weren’t Mexicans and they were not killed by Gringos, that’s why he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about it, let’s wait ’till he cures his hangover with a Clamato mixed with tequila and lime, and his right hand tells him that the right thing to do in a case like this, is to appear in national TV and say that he is deeply sad, but that massacre means he is wining the “war on drugs”.
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Hey, bro, that’s cuz Calderon is a real peace of shit. A puppet. I know you and I both can’t stand what he has done to Mexico.
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Edge of 17 Reply:
August 26th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
This makes me wonder how much more of this sort of thing is out there,that will never be known. God bless their familes who have lost their loved ones.
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what about the frag grenade in PV this mornig? cartel hit?
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“BIENVENIDOS AL INFIERNO” by Julio Schrerer Garcia http://www.proceso.com.mx/rv/modHome/detalleExclusiva/82737
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Question,is this the real Zeta organization doing all this ,or is it others claiming ,or wishing to be Zetas?
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The Rabbit Reply:
August 27th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
What? Come on, you know as well as I do that any lame that wants claim he’s part of something caims they are a Zeta. But that masacre looks like the work of some real desperate people, trying to forcefully recruit people to help them survive. The strength in numbers. No matter what, that masacre was as low as it gets. Had to be Zetas. Low life, no class, scum!
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I just read an article that blames Judge Susan Bolton for the death of a cop from Chandler, in drug bust gone bad. What is so stupid about that is, none of the suspects were illegal aliens. Some people are living in lala land. Stupid idiots. Using the immigration law over a drug bust gone bad, that had nothing to do with the border, is totally insane. This drug war makes people talk stupid.
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