Wikileaks and the Dark Alliance
Dec 7th, 2010 | By Michel Marizco | Category: General News, Politics
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THE BORDER REPORT
Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is about to find out what a journalist, now dead, found out ten years ago. The system, once pushed, will respond. In Assange’s case, he and Wikileaks are finding themselves losing the resources for survival, one by one, more every day. First Amazon dumped Wikileaks, then PayPal, now Visa and Mastercard. Next up, the Justice Department with potential trafficking in stolen property charges, the New York Times reports.
I noticed the editors of the Washington Post, perhaps smarting over Wikileaks’ not sharing the cable-dump with them, started referring to Assange as pasty-faced in their news stories.
It all reminds me of the persecution of a nearly-forgotten journalist in the 1990s, Gary Webb. Working for the San Jose Mercury-News, Webb wrote a series of articles claiming that Nicaraguans working for the CIA-supported Contras were running coke up to Los Angeles. The coke was being pushed on the streets as crack cocaine and the proceeds returning to the Contras. In effect, Webb argued, the CIA knew who was fueling the crack cocaine epidemic of the 1980s. The series was later published in a book, Dark Alliance. (Minor but crucial point: Webb never argues the CIA was moving the coke, only that they stepped aside as their Contras did so).
It’s not one of my favorite books, let me be upfront about that now. I felt Webb lacked the proof throughout the book. I’ve read it a few times now and each time, I walk away unconvinced that he had the solid proof. I can almost feel the desperation that drove him to finish it. That’s not to say I disbelieve the idea, clearly he laid out the case for more work to be put forth on the matter. My problem with the book isn’t the question, or even the accusation he makes of the CIA. You can sense it’s there. But he didn’t prove it.
But my own dissatisfaction is irrelevant. Dark Alliance should have raised the curiosity of the press, particularly those charged with watchdogging the government, newspapers like the Washington Post, The Los Angeles and New York Times, hell, his own newspaper in San Jose (they retracted the story).
Instead the constructs of the machine surrounded Webb. It was embarrassing how the newspapers reacted.
Rather than take his story and press the Feds on the matter, the newspapers chose to vilify Webb. They attacked his reporting, his character and his news judgment. Not one of them, and mind you, one of those includes the Washington Post, the newspaper that helped bring down a president, invested the resources, time or the interest in following up on Webb’s reporting. Instead, they quoted government officials who condemned his reporting.
The newspapers chose not to listen because to do so would have required time and money – and ego. They would have had to acknowledge that they got smoked by a much smaller paper with far less resources than their own companies could muster. It raised uncomfortable truths about an austerity in genuine, critical and original reporting by the country’s greatest newspapers.
In the end, Webb was disgraced, his career finished. Never mind that even before he wrote his series, the Kerry Committee had already determined there were truths there that bore exploration. Those were ignored.
Webb died in 2004, the official cause: suicide, from two gunshot wounds to the head. Secretos, tragedy, quien sabe.
Now the machine closes on Assange. Here’s Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen charging Assange with recklessness: “but Assange launched them into cyberspace anyway, not caring if American interests were damaged. In fact, that might have been the whole point.”
Really, Cohen? Did you forget (or even stop to consider) that Assange is Australian and thusly, may not have American interests at heart because he’s not American? Madres.
Assange may have committed a crime in receiving these classified dispatches. But he’s not the problem. Clearly, someone within the U.S. government sees fit to purge government computers of thousands of megabytes of information and ship them to a meta-data website for mass publication. Clearly, someone isn’t vetting U.S. government employees or security measures are not being taken to prevent their being lifted. We have a problem.
But those are harder questions to have to answer, they are awkward and risk embarrassment and accountability – after the fact, after the information’s already been leaked. Apparently, those in the news business now criticizing Assange also feel they are harder questions to ask.
It’s far easier, and far cheaper, to kill the messenger. And in Assange’s case, the messengers are helping to kill.
Can the government be specific what is so threatening, because NO ONE DIED by the cables released. Was the leak so careless ? People did die because the same amount of money did go to Foreign Affair as to public health care.
We NEED proper steering mechanism to survive the global society we created with technology. Transparency/involvement is needed. It’s urgent, at this moment our society has an obsolete 200 years old steering mechanism. How can a few wise leaders understand these complex global issues pending ?
Would we have gone to Iraq over Weapons of mass destruction is we were part of the diplomatic cable discussion ?
Better of with more transparency ? Credit Crises / Cable gate shows governments are not so much in control of the global society. Wasn’t it work of the press to tell us the truth ?
Can the government be specific what is so threatening, because NO ONE DIED by the cables released. People did die because the same amount of money did go to Foreign Affair as to public health care.
At least the cork out of the bottle. Fact is that secrets are harder to keep anno 2010. Shutting down is naive. Discuss it is the only option.. If democracy fails, the only solution is MORE democracy!. Fill the streets and discuss where the press fails.
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Wikileaks connections in the hacker community, however, mean that corporate websites are increasingly finding themselves under attack. A Swiss bank and Mastercard.com have both been taken down by “denial of service” campaigns, which bombard websites with so many requests that they buckle under the strain
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8188797/WikiLeaks-supporters-hack-Mastercard.com.html
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it sounds like he got set up if he isnt a straight up dog whose life got scrutinized…
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The govt has a mole…….and that to me is the bigger threat…….so you bring down wiki leaks and imprison Assange…..but if you dont get the mole….. another wiki leaks will rise and the story will continue to repeat itself……. what I find funny is that libertarians (rand paul) and socialist (michael moore) have both spoken out against the not official govt attacks on wikileaks website and their finances….i guess the saying “he enemy of my enemy is my friend” is true……..
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Tantos Reply:
December 11th, 2010 at 10:22 am
They are standing together because the only thing that Assange is promoting is anarchy.
I thought they arrested a private for sending the info to Wikileaks. Are there more suspects?
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SUBJECT: MEXICAN NAVY OPERATION NETS DRUG KINGPIN ARTURO
BELTRAN LEYVA
REF: MONTERREY 000453
Classified By: Political Minister Counselor Gustavo Delgado.
Reason: 1.4 (b),(d).
¶1. (S) Summary. Mexican Navy forces acting on U.S.
information killed Arturo Beltran Leyva in an operation on
December 16, the highest-level takedown of a cartel figure
under the Calderon administration. The operation is a clear
victory for the Mexican Government and an example of
excellent USG-GOM cooperation. The unit that conducted the
operation had recieved extensive U.S. training. Arturo
Beltran Leyva’s death will not solve Mexico’s drug problem,
but it will hopefully generate the momentum necessary to make
sustained progress against other drug trafficking
organizations. End Summary.
The Operation
————-
¶2. (S) Mexican Navy (SEMAR) sources revealed on the night of
December 17 that SEMAR forces killed Arturo Beltran Leyva
(ABL), head of the Beltran Leyva Organization, during a
shoot-out in Cuernavaca (approximately 50 miles south of
Mexico City) that afternoon. At least three other cartel
operatives were killed during the raid, with a fourth
committing suicide. While it still has not been confirmed,
Embassy officials believe the latter to be ABL’s brother,
Hector, which would mean that all Beltran Leyva brothers are
either dead or in prison. Arturo Beltran Leyva has a long
history of involvement in the Mexican drug trade, and worked
with Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman and his Sinaloa Cartel before
splitting in 2008. The rivalry between the Sinaloa and
Beltran Leyva organizations has been a key factor driving the
escalating levels of narcotics-related violence in recent
years. Born in Sinaloa, ABL has been key to the importation
and distribution of cocaine and heroin in the United States,
and also has extensive money laundering capabilities,
corruption networks, and international contacts in Colombia
and the U.S.
¶3. (C) Embassy law enforcement officials say that the arrest
operation targeting ABL began about a week prior to his death
when the Embassy relayed detailed information on his location
to SEMAR. The SEMAR unit has been trained extensively by
NORTHCOM over the past several years. SEMAR raided an
identified location, where they killed several ABL bodyguards
and arrested over 23 associates, while ABL and Hector
escaped. On Monday, the Embassy interagency linked ABL to an
apartment building located in Cuernavaca (about an hour south
of Mexico City), where ABL was in hiding. SEMAR initiated an
arrest operation on Wednesday afternoon, surrounding the
identified apartment complex, and establishing a security
perimeter. ABL’s forces fired on the SEMAR operatives and
engaged in a sustained firefight that wounded three SEMAR
marines and possibly killed one. SEMAR forces evacuated
residents of the apartment complex to the gym, according to
press accounts, and no civilian casualties have so far been
reported.
The Mexican Interagency
———————–
¶4. (S) The successful operation against ABL comes on the
heels of an aggressive SEMAR effort in Monterrey against Zeta
forces (ref a) and highlights its emerging role as a key
player in the counternarcotics fight. SEMAR is well-trained,
well-equipped, and has shown itself capable of responding
quickly to actionable intelligence. Its success puts the
Army (SEDENA) in the difficult position of explaining why it
has been reluctant to act on good intelligence and conduct
operations against high-level targets. The U.S. interagency
originally provided the information to SEDENA, whose refusal
to move quickly reflected a risk aversion that cost the
institution a major counternarcotics victory. SEDENA did
provide backup to SEMAR during the firefight with ABL forces,
but can take little credit for the operation. Public
Security Secretary (SSP) Genaro Garcia Luna can also be
counted as a net loser in the Mexican interagency following
the ABL operation. SSP considers high-level Beltran Leyva
targets to be its responsibility, and Garcia Luna has already
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said privately that the operation should have been his.
The Impact on Violence
———————-
¶5. (S) It is early to say with a great degree of confidence
what kind of effect ABL’s death will have on levels of
narco-related violence in Mexico. A spike is probably likely
in the short term as inter- and intra-cartel battles are
intensified by the sudden leadership gap in one of the
country’s most important cartels. With all the Beltran Leyva
brothers likely dead or in prison, there are a number of
other cartel functionaries likely to vie for the leadership
slot. Moreover, rival organizations may intensify efforts to
expand their influence in the disarray likely to follow ABL’s
death. At the very least, efforts to clean the Beltran Leyva
house and rout out suspected informers will be bloody, and
retaliation by the organization against Mexican law
enforcement or military officials is not out of the cards.
¶6. (C) In the medium to longer term, ABL’s death could have
the potential to lower the level of narco-violence rates.
ABL himself was a particularly violent leader with numerous
effective assassin teams. Moreover, the Sinaloa-Beltran
Leyva rivalry has been responsible for a large number of
narcotics-related homicides in Mexico, and also largely
personally driven by the Beltran Leyva brothers themselves.
Emboffs speculate that Beltran Leyva associates, under
pressure and perhaps more vulnerable due to leadership
deficiencies, could move to align more closely again with
Sinaloa, which they might think offers a more natural
protection than the Zetas.
The Boost for Calderon
———————-
¶7. (C) SEMAR’s successful operation against ABL is a major
victory for President Calderon and his war against organized
crime. ABL is the highest ranking target taken down by the
Calderon government, and his status as one of the most
important and long-standing of Mexican drug traffickers makes
his takedown even more symbolically important. President
Calderon has openly admitted to having a tough year — his
party lost big in the midterm elections, he is confronting an
economic crisis, and nationwide homicide rates continue to
climb — and contacts have told Poloff that he has seemed
“down” in meetings. The SEMAR operation is undoubtedly a
huge boost for him, both in terms of bolstering public
support for his security efforts and in reassuring himself
that important security accomplishments in this area are
possible. Calderon’s political opponents will also find it
far less useful to accuse the President of hanging on to an
ineffective anti-crime strategy that nets numerous mid- to
low-level cartel figures but fails to rein in the major
kingpins. The major Mexico City dailies have run front page
Beltran Leyva stories, and President Calderon’s remarks in a
press conference from Copenhagen highlighting that the
operation represents an “important achievement for the
Mexican people and government” were widely covered.
Comment
——-
¶8. (S) The operation against Arturo Beltran Leyva is a clear
victory for the Mexican Government and an example of
excellent USG-GOM cooperation. Seamless Embassy interagency
collaboration combined with a willing, capable, and ready
SEMAR produced one of the greatest successes to date in the
counternarcotics fight. ABL’s death will provide an
important boost to Calderon and hopefully will cultivate a
greater sense of confidence within Mexican security agencies
that will encourage them to take greater advantage of similar
opportunities. SEMAR’s win in particular may encourage
SEDENA to be more proactive and less risk averse in future
operations. ABL’s death will certainly not resolve Mexico’s
drug problem, but it will likely generate the momentum
necessary within the GOM security apparatus to make sustained
and real progress against the country’s drug trafficking
organizations.
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NSC FOR DAN RESTREPO; DEPT FOR WHA DAS JACOBSON, MEX
DIRECTOR LEE, D STAFF CUE, AND INR HOHMAN.
E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/24/2019
TAGS: PREL PGOV PINR MX
SUBJECT: MEXICO: MORE INTERAGENCY COOPERATION NEEDED ON
INTELLIGENCE ISSUES
Classified By: Political Minister Counselor Gustavo Delgado.
Reason: 1.4 (b),(d).
¶1. (S/NF) Summary. President Calderon’s security strategy
lacks an effective intelligence apparatus to produce high
quality information and targeted operations. Embassy
officers working with the GOM report that Mexico’s use of
strategic and tactical intelligence is fractured, ad hoc, and
reliant on U.S. support. Despite their myriad inefficiencies
and deficiencies, Mexican security services broadly recognize
the need for improvement. Sustained U.S. assistance can help
shape and fortify the technical capacity of institutions and
can also create a more reliable, collegial inter-agency
environment. End Summary.
GOM Intel Strategy Criticized
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¶2. (C) Recent criticism of President Calderon’s security
strategy cites a poorly utilized and underdeveloped
intelligence apparatus as a key obstacle to greater
improvements in the country’s security environment.
Calderon’s political opponents from both the Institutional
Revolutionary Party (PRI) and the Revolutionary Democratic
Party (PRD) have told Poloff that large-scale joint
military-police counterdrug deployments, notably Joint
Operation Chihuahua, have failed to make real gains in the
war against organized crime due to a reliance on overwhelming
numerical superiority of troops absent the strategic and
operational use of intelligence. Critics argue that the more
effective use of intelligence would help the security
services better cooperate on counterdrug issues, wrap-up more
high-level traffickers, and, eventually, curb the country’s
escalating rates of narco-related violence. Emboffs working
with the GOM in counter-narcotics and intelligence matters
similarly note that Mexico’s use of strategic and tactical
intelligence is often fractured, ad hoc, and heavily reliant
on the United States for leads and operations.
The Players
———–
¶3. (S/NF) A myriad of GOM agencies have a stake in
counternarcotics intel issues, including the Secretariats of
Defense (SEDENA) and Marines (SEMAR), the Mexican National
Intelligence Center (CISEN), the Public Security Secretariat
(SSP), which includes the federal police, and the Attorney
General’s Office (PGR). Each has a different intelligence
mission and varying levels of development and
professionalism. As Mexico’s primary intelligence agency,
CISEN is the natural choice to be the GOM’s coordinator of
intelligence and analytic efforts. Indeed, it technically
has the lead on encouraging interagency coordination and is
developing mechanisms to facilitate such endeavors. For the
most part, however, CISEN lacks the capacity to effectively
direct the inter-agency process, particularly when it
includes such institutional giants as SSP, which
bureaucratically overshadows CISEN in budget, personnel, and
other resource issues. CISEN’s inability thus far to serve
as a real leader on intelligence operations and analysis has
effectively left Mexico without an effective interagency
coordinator.
¶4. (S/NF) SSP is increasingly becoming a major player on the
intel block. It is exploring ways to take advantage of new
authorities granted under the Federal Police reform
legislation passed last year to develop its intelligence
capabilities. SSP can now directly solicit telephonic
information from phone companies with a judicial order,
bypassing the PGR entirely. It is also interested in
building its own complete telecommunications intercept
capability, the implementation of which has stalled over the
past two years because of turf disputes between SSP and the
Attorney General’s Office. Moreover, as the keeper of
Plataforma Mexico — the massive new criminal database — the
SSP oversees one of the GOM’s cornerstone and resource-heavy
information-sharing projects.
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The Challenges
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¶5. (S/NF) The GOM faces a number of institutional challenges
to more effectively develop, analyze, and use information for
intelligence-based operations. One of the most critical of
these is the lack of trust between and within GOM
institutions. Emboffs report that SEDENA, for example, has
well-established intel units that develop targeting packages
on cartel kingpins. In general, they do not share
information or analysis with forces on the ground deployed to
fight counternarcotics, like in Ciudad Juarez. These units
will share threat information against military components,
but also see local military commands as often penetrated by
organized crime. Locally deployed SEDENA forces rarely
develop or utilize tactical intelligence. In fact, they have
no true intel units that collect information, nor do they
have professional intel corps. Military units deployed to
hotspots operate virtually blind except for anonymous tips.
Particularly given the fallout from the high-level corruption
cases uncovered last year, PGR and SSP suffer from similar
internal suspicions as SEDENA.
¶6. (S/NF) Institutions are fiercely protective of their own
information and equities and are reluctant to share
information with outsiders, in part because of corruption
fears, but also because they would rather hoard intelligence
than allow a rival agency to succeed. They are under
enormous pressure to produce results. Moreover, bureaucratic
culture in Mexico is generally risk averse, so intelligence
entities would rather do nothing than do something wrong.
Corruption fears are well-founded given the number of
operations that have been compromised or foiled because of
leaks. Emboffs note that constructing an effective
intelligence structure in Mexico’s northern border area is
particularly difficult, as many of the region’s security
forces are compromised. The rivalry between Attorney General
Medina Mora — recently replaced by Arturo Chavez Chavez —
and SSP,s Genaro Garcia Luna dramatically diminished
cooperation and information-sharing between the two services.
Leadership and personality conflicts may, in fact, be one of
the most significant drivers of whether or not agencies set
themselves up as rivals or allies in sharing important
information. Some observers see the new federal police and
PGR reforms as unlikely to resolve the zero sum competition,
and it is too early to know whether the Chavez appointment
will mitigate the specific PGR-SSP problem.
¶7. (S/NF) There are also some legal and institutional
unknowns: SSP, which receives the bulk of the GOM’s security
budget, now has the legal backing it needs to allow Garcia
Luna to move ahead in building a large new intelligence and
investigative program. With such indigenous capabilities,
SSP probably would have even less incentive to cooperate with
PGR. SEDENA, meanwhile, tends to work better with PGR than
with SSP, but the Army’s efforts are still highly limited and
compartmentalized and it remains to be seen how better
vetting practices and a stronger SSP will impact those
relations. Secretary of Defense Galvan Galvan in a recent
meeting with U.S. officials expressed little interest in
bolstering cooperation with other agencies. Because of
internal strife and mistrust in GOM institutions, Mission law
enforcement agencies say that USG elements tend to work with
GOM counterparts separately, which may end up indirectly
contributing to stovepiping.
Taking Steps to Get Smart
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¶8. (S/NF) There is broad recognition among Mexican security
and intelligence agencies, as well as political leadership,
that they must do better in developing sources, analyzing
information, and using it operationally. They also know that
the effective use of intelligence requires more complete
collaboration between involved bureaucracies. Despite its
deficiencies, the GOM does have some intelligence
capabilities, and Emboffs note that when they are deployed in
full force, as in Michoacan, they can do good work.
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¶9. (S/NF) The GOM is working hard to improve communication
among agencies with a stake in intelligence. CISEN is trying
to develop mechanisms to facilitate coordination. For
example, CISEN has established at its Mexico City
headquarters a fusion center that has representatives from
every involved agency, including the Finance Secretariat,
SSP, PGR, SEMAR, SEDENA, and state and local investigators
when they can be trusted. Mexico is also in the process of
establishing a series of Tactical Operations Intelligence
Units (UNITOS) at military bases in each state throughout the
country. The GOM has established a number of units (reports
range from 9 to 27) with participation from the Army, Navy,
SSP, PGR, and CISEN, comprising a command section, tactical
analysis group, investigations group, operations sector, and
a cadre of judicial experts. When properly functioning, the
UNITOs provides a centralizing platform for federal forces to
work together, share information, and plan operations. It is
still unclear as to whether these would be short or long term
units, but if implemented correctly, they might serve as a
key piece of a revamped GOM intel and operational
architecture. So far, the UNITOs are plagued by the same
interagency rivals and mistrust that characterize the broader
institutional relationships and have not yet reached the
point of being effective.
¶10. (C) The state-level C-4 centers (command, control,
communications, and coordination) are, at the low end,
glorified emergency call centers. At the high end, they
include more professional analytic cells that produce useful
analysis and planning documents and also have a quick
response time. The more complete C-4s include
representatives from national and regional entities, and are
the nerve centers for day-to-day information flow,
intelligence, and directing operations in the state. They
are often also the link to national databases, such as
Plataforma Mexico. Huge disparities between state C-4s
exist, but many states are working to move their units from
merely housing emergency dispatchers to being functional hubs
of operations and intelligence. The UNITOs often rely on
information fed from good C-4s, in addition to federal
databases and platforms.
¶11. (C) Plataforma Mexico is another important piece of the
intel puzzle and continues to expand its presence throughout
the country. The mega-criminal database has a wide array of
information-sharing and analytical tools that
help to track and share information on individuals and
organized crime cells, vehicles, air movements, and is linked
with an increasing number of surveillance and security
cameras. The database is housed at SSP and is being deployed
to an increasing number of states, with different tiers of
access that are controlled through the vetting system. Not
all states have access, mostly because they have yet to
comply with federal standards in order to be connected, and
some states with access have complained that the system is
too slow to be of any use to them. Additionally, Project
Constanza is PGR’s new case tracking system for the judicial
system, and will include all data related to individual cases
of persons apprehended and later charged. Some pieces may be
made available to Plataforma Mexico, and PGR would like to
have a system for tracking detentions that can be made
available to police units when apprehending a suspect. The
Mission is actively engaged in trying to plug E-Trace, ATF’s
powerful arms tracing software, into both systems.
¶12. (S/NF) Despite myriad challengece, cooperation with the
USG on intelligence and counternarcotics issues has never
been better. Indeed, Embassy experts say that Mexican
authorities often rely on tips from U.S. law enforcement and
intelligence organizations, and that many successful captures
of important cartel figures are often backed by U.S.
assistance. Mexico has indicated interest in improving its
collection and use of intelligence with additional U.S. help.
For example, in early 2009 the director of the National
Security Information Center came to Mexico to, among other
things, meet with CISEN Director Valdez (NSIC runs the Merida
Culture of Lawfulness project but also works in the field of
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intelligence structures in democratic societies). He pitched
to Valdez a program developed by NSIC to divide a hostile
zone into a series of quadrants and assign a team to each
that contains four specialties – interviewers (Humint),
signals interceptors (Sigint), analysts, and operators – as
well as an adequate security contingent to keep the members
secure in their safe area and during movement. The teams
take up residence in the area, as clandestinely as possible,
and begin to develop sources and information that is used to
make arrests. At
the same time, the team filters raw and semi-processed
information to the next level, which has a parallel
structure, but more robust operations capabilities and higher
level skill sets, especially for analyzing the information.
The ideas is to develop strategic, as opposed to tactical,
information that can be used to take apart whole networks.
Valdez was impressed by the concept, and directed his deputy,
Gustavo Mohar, to meet with the Embassy’s NAS Director to
discuss its viability in U.S. programming. NAS Director and
Legatt met with Mohar and suggested that in the training line
of Merida it would be possible to pursue such a program.
COMMENT
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¶13. (S/NF) Mexico is a long way from developing a
self-sufficient and expert intelligence apparatus, but the
creation of a coherent system is critical for the sustained
success of its anti-organized crime efforts. USG-GOM
cooperation, while not flawless, has never been better.
Close collaboration and assistance in training and improving
Mexican security agencies’ ability to produce and use
intelligence in key counterdrug operations undoubtedly is
critical and will pay dividends over time. Perhaps the
greatest challenge to lasting progress on intelligence
matters is cultivating an environment of trust — based on
high standards of security — among Mexico’s law enforcement,
military, and intelligence agencies to ensure that
information is appropriately collected, shared, protected,
and acted upon. Reducing institutional rivalries and
encouraging agencies to move past the zero-sum mindset that
one entity’s success in catching a high-value target is
another’s loss is also critical to reducing rivalries and
distrust on intelligence issues. The growing SSP footprint
on intelligence matters has the potential to seriously impact
the information-sharing dynamic, a factor that will have to
be integrated into our assistance programs to ensure that we
do not exacerbate existing institutional tensions,
particularly with the PGR. While our Mexican interlocutors
recognize the need for greater interagency cooperation, they
are reluctant to address the problem: the solution will
require sustained U.S. help in fortifying institutions
against the corruption, inefficiencies and backbiting that
have bred distrust amongst GOM partners.
¶14. (S/NF) The USG can help Mexico develop inter-agency
capabilities, and there are a number of line items in the
Merida Initiative that can be employed in this effort. For
example: the polygraph program properly pushed out to the
states and consistently applied to special units could help
produce the core integrity and trust that all good
intelligence will depend on; the state-level law enforcement
C-4 coordination centers, when done right, can bring all
agencies and information together; Plataforma Mexico, the
core database for law enforcement information-sharing, is
rolling out across Mexico with new resources in 2009 that
will enhance its capabilities and accessibility; through law
enforcement professionalization, we are training
investigators who will be a key piece of the intelligence
puzzle as they serve as front-line collectors; we will be
supporting vetted units — among the highest yielding
entities in the GOM for intelligence — with USD 5 million of
FY2009 funding. Perhaps most importantly, these programs can
serve as effective carrots to resolve the entrenched mistrust
and parochialism of Mexican institutions by ensuring that
organizations come to the table together when necessary to
support the GOM’s efforts to combat rife corruption within
its institutions.
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SUBJECT: DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE DENNIS BLAIR’S
MEETING WITH PRESIDENT CALDERON, OCTOBER 19
Classified By: Ambassador Carlos Pascual.
Reason: 1.4 (b),(d).
¶1. (S/NF) Summary. DNI Dennis Blair met with President
Calderon for about forty minutes at the Presidential Palace
on October 19. The bulk of the discussion focused on
cooperation on intelligence sharing and the integration of
operations by Mexican intelligence and law enforcement
authorities. Calderon also commented extensively on
political developments in Latin American and the role of the
United States. While he said the United States had regained
significant stature in Latin America, he also urged greater
U.S. involvement in the politics of the region. Several
upcoming elections will be critical in shaping the region’s
political course. The U.S., he said, needs to be seen as a
critical player. End Summary.
¶2. (S/NF) The issue at the heart of the discussion was that
Mexico must continue to improve its coordination and response
capacity among its own security forces to act effectively on
intelligence leads regardless of the source, including
Mexico’s own internal intelligence channels. Mexico’s
Federal Police still largely bases its operational capacity
in Mexico City. The Secretary of Defense (SEDENA) is more
decentralized, but has yet to define a cooperative platform
to work with the Federal Police. When operations are
undertaken in rural areas with difficult terrain, the
complexity of moving large security operations in a short
time frame may often result in targeted individuals escaping
from these operations. Calderon said this situation made him
“very sad,” and that it was a “great mistake” on their part.
Further, Calderon indicated that he would assess the
possibility of creating a joint strike force capability.
(Note: In separate subsequent meetings, a discussion was
launched with GOM officials on the possibility of undertaking
a simulated exercise that would begin to test how multiple
agencies could cooperate together (septel). End note.)
¶3. (S/NF) Blair underscored that the fight against crime has
to move beyond high-value targets. “Cut the head off this
snake and new heads will grow.” Blair said the key
ingredient to success is generating community confidence to
call in tips against drug traffickers. To get that, people
need to feel secure — they have to believe that the police
can maintain public safety. And it also means that
intelligence has to be used quickly, effectively, and
responsibly. Intelligence, operations, and institutional
capacity have to be interwoven. Calderon agreed. He
responded, “You made it very clear. Without attacking the
body as well, we can’t win. And we have to create the
capacity to take on the body.”
¶4. (S/NF) DNI Blair asked Calderon for his perspective on
political developments in the region and how the United
States could continue to increase its diplomatic
effectiveness. Calderon emphasized that Venezuelan President
Hugo Chavez is active everywhere, including Mexico. He went
out of his way to highlight that he believes Chavez funded
the PRD opposition during the Presidential campaign nearly
four years ago. Chavez uses social programs, including
sending doctors, to curry political influence, and there are
governors in Mexico who may be friendly to him. Calderon
said that Mexico is trying to isolate Venezuela through the
Rio Group. Calderon also commented that he is particularly
concerned about Venezuela’s relations with Iran, and that the
Iranian Embassy in Mexico is very active. Calderon
underscored that Iran’s growing influence in Latin American
should be of considerable concern to the United States, and
Chavez is doing all he can to aid and abet it.
¶5. (S/NF) Calderon exhorted the U.S. to watch Guatemala and
Belize, since their internal weaknesses make them vulnerable.
He is concerned about Mexico’s southern border, and said the
GOM is starting a strategic planning process to better treat
the topic. (Note: Calderon is scheduled to visit Guatemala
next week. End note.) Calderon later in the meeting raised
the southern border again as an area for U.S.-Mexico
cooperation. Ambassador Pascual noted that the U.S. and
Mexico were to hold the next day a joint conference on the
Guatemala border to combat arms trafficking from the south.
MEXICO 00003061 002 OF 002
¶6. (S/NF) Circling back to Venezuela, Calderon said that
Chavez has no qualms about involving himself in Latin
American elections, and that he tried to do so in Mexico’s
own 2006 presidential contest. The region needs a visible
U.S. presence, he noted. Chavez, said Calderon, will also
have the opportunity to do so in a number of upcoming votes,
especially Honduras. Most importantly, said Calderon, the
United States must be ready to engage the next Brazilian
president. Brazil, he said, is key to restraining Chavez,
but he lamented that President Lula has been reluctant to do
so. The U.S. needs to engage Brazil more and influence its
outlook. In closing, Calderon said that there is a link
among Iran, Venezuela, drugs, narcotics trafficking, and rule
of law issues. The U.S. should look at Latin America from an
interconnected perspective.
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Tantos Reply:
December 11th, 2010 at 9:59 am
In other words, Calderon is saying keep funding the Merida Initiative, and I will keep the Pinko’s out of Mexico.
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S E C R E T MEXICO 000193
NOFORN
E.O. 12958: DNG: CO 01/22/2019
TAGS: PREL PGOV PHUM PINR SNAR KCRM MX
SUBJECT: THE BATTLE JOINED: NARCO VIOLENCE TRENDS IN 2008
REF: A. CIUDAD JUAREZ 22
¶B. MEXICO 3586
¶C. MEXICO 2371
¶D. MEXICO 3498
¶E. MEXICO 3779
¶F. MEXICO 1766
Classified By: Political Minister Counselor Charles V. Barclay.
Reason: 1.4 (b), (d)
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Summary
——-
¶1. (C) 2008 set a new record for organized crime-related
homicides with more than 6000 killings. Violence in Mexico
suddenly provided fodder for U.S. and international media
with commentators suggesting worse to come. While the death
toll is already at disturbing levels, and there are no signs
violence will taper off anytime soon, we will continue to
evaluate information or evidence that would suggest the
cartels have decided to up the ante significantly by
undertaking mass-casualty attacks on civilians,
systematically attacking GOM officials or institutions or
targeting USG personnel. Internecine struggles among the
cartels and GOM counter narcotic successes have increased the
costs of doing business and account for most of the up-tick
last year. Frustrated traffickers, seeking to diversify
profit-making activities through kidnappings and extortion,
account for more. End Summary.
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Drug-Related Homicides on the Rise
———————————-
¶2. (C) Few killings in Mexico are thoroughly investigated,
and determining which are truly related to organized crime
remains an inexact science, but Mexico’s Attorney General’s
office’s year-end estimate stands at 6262. Other GOM
authorities put the toll from organized crime slightly
higher. SEDENA reports that drug-related killings
represented roughly 17% of all homicides last year, while the
National System of Public Security (SNSP — part of the
Public Security Secretariat (SSP)) estimates a total of
approximately 10,700 intentional homicides.
(S/NF) Table I: Organized Crime-Related Killings, By Year*
——————————————— ———-
2005 1855
2006 2489
2007 3038
2008 6380
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*Source: SEDENA
(S/NF) Table II: 2008 OC-Related Killings, By Month*
——————————————— —–
Jan 282
Feb 283
Mar 417
Apr 320
May 496
Jun 531
Jul 540
Aug 587
Sep 526
Oct 847
Nov 843
Dec 708
——————————————— ——
*Source: SEDENA
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Spike in Violence Concentrated at the Border
——————————————–
¶3. (C) Violence continued to be concentrated in a few key
states, and in 2008 there was a spike in drug-related
killings in the northern border territories. An estimated 41
percent of these homicides took place in Chihuahua and Baja
California states and largely in two urban areas, Ciudad
Juarez and Tijuana. (see MEXICO 3586). Sinaloa continued to
rank among the most violent states with approximately 1048
(or 18%) of these killings. The surge in violence along the
border stems largely from the intensified struggle among
cartels over a few lucrative land crossings to the U.S. In
particular, the January 2008 arrest of cartel leader Alfredo
Beltran Leyva sparked a serious rift among the Gulf, Juarez
and Sinaloa (Pacific) cartels, which is being played out
viciously in Ciudad Juarez. (See MEXICO 1766) In Tijuana,
rival factions of the weakened Arellano Felix Organization,
one of which is backed by the Sinaloa cartel, are battling
for control.
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Changes In Cartel Behavior
————————–
¶4. (SBU) Beyond its broadened scope, the nature of cartel
violence changed in 2008: organized violence was
characterized by significantly increased brutality, a callous
disregard for the potential for collateral damage and more
frequent targeting of soldiers and police. Mexico’s drug
trafficking organizations (DTOs) have also more frequently
orchestrated violence to send intimidating messages to
security forces, the Mexican public and the body politic.
¶5. (SBU) Incidents, such as the August beheadings of 12 in
Yucatan, the execution style killing of 24 on the outskirts
of Mexico City in September, late fall killings of soldiers
in Monterrey and Guerrero in late December contributed to
growing public unease here and garnered media attention
abroad. Several first-time-ever incidents involving grenades
and improvised explosive devices (such as the notorious
Independence Day grenade attack in Morelia, the shooting and
undetonated grenade attack on the US Consulate in Monterrey,
the use of improvised explosive devices in downtown Mexico
City and Sinaloa, and a grenade attack on police cadets in
Jalisco) demonstrate that not only have the cartels
successfully expanded their arsenals, but at least some
elements have developed a tolerance for inflicting civilian
casualties.
¶6. (SBU) Cartels have also expanded their use of violence to
intimidate. Beheadings and the prominent placement of
dismembered bodies in public places, relatively rare two
years ago are now common throughout the country. The late
night grenade/shooting attack on our consulate in Monterrey
was obviously designed to send a message, although no
individual or group has ever claimed responsibility. More
explicit was the January assault on the Monterrey offices of
Televisa, accompanied by a message telling the broadcaster to
do a better job reporting on corrupt public officials.
Attacks such as these remain sporadic so far, and we have
insufficient indications whether they mark a new trend or
not.
¶7. (SBU) Despite these sporadic attacks, Mexico’s drug war
continues to primarily impact security forces and those
linked directly or indirectly to the drug trade. The
civilian population in some urban areas along the border
remains bunkered down with some of those who have the money
either sending their children to school in the U.S. or
relocating entirely to minimize risk. In much of the rest of
the country, though, the civilian population not involved in
the drug trade remains essentially insulated from the
violence, though not from its effects.
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Police Killings Increase Along With Overall Death Toll
——————————————— ——–
¶8. (SBU) SEDENA estimates that at least 522 civilian law
enforcement and military personnel were murdered last year,
compared to 315 in 2007.
(S/NF) Table III: Drug-Related Military/Police Homicides:
2007* 2008**
(% of total)
AFI 22 (6.9) 5 (1.0)
PFP 12 (3.8) 37 (19.7)
State
Police 62 (19.8) 110 (21.1)
Ministerial
Police 63 (20.0) 14 (2.7)
Municipal
Police 120 (38.0) 305 (58.4)
Military 27 (8.6) 51 (9.8)
Other 9 (2.9) Unavailable
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Total 315 522
CENAPI (Mexico’s Center for Information, Analysis and
Planning) statistics
**SEDENA statistics
¶9. (C) Increased confrontations between security forces and
criminals is one explanation for the increasing killing of
security forces personnel. GOM authorities argue that
killings are no longer just score-settling among bad cops,
but increasingly the consequence of the government’s
aggressive fight against the cartels. Some analysts we have
spoken to agree. However, they also note that with few
exceptions the majority of deaths are not the result of
direct confrontations. They argue that the crackdown on
police corruption has put compromised police officials in the
position of either being prosecuted or breaking their
established agreements/arrangements with the cartels. Hence,
some of those who presumably choose the latter course are
being punished brutally. (See MEXICO 2371, 3498)
¶10. (SBU) It is worth noting that police victims (at all
levels of government) represented eight percent of all 2008
killings believed to be drug-related, a figure slightly lower
than the percentage in 2007. The vast majority of victims
continue to be state and municipal law enforcement officers.
Senior level, federal police killings were still rare
occurrences in 2008. The most high-profile death remains the
May killing of Edgar Millan Gomez, the country’s
highest-ranking federal police officer.
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Targeting of Soldiers An Ominous Sign
————————————–
¶11. (S/NF) There have been notable incidents of horrific
violence against soldiers, including a string of slayings of
enlisted men in Monterrey in October and the systematic
decapitation of seven troops in Guerrero (see MEXICO 3779).
The theory that those killed in Guerrero were rogue soldiers
involved in drug trafficking has been discounted, suggesting
the cartels have begun to target soldiers to exact revenge
for successes registered by the military and attempt to
undermine the institution’s resolve. The Monterrey and
Guerrero killings immediately followed successful military
operations in the respective regions resulting in seizures
and arrests. Whether such tactics will have a chilling
effect remains to be seen. Sources tell us that while some
soldiers are more fearful, many others are keen to strike
back at the cartels with greater resolve. SEDENA and SEMAR
have instructed regional commanders to implement force
protection counter-measures to reduce the risk of future
incidents.
—————————————-
U.S. Personnel and Institutions Targets?
—————————————-
¶12. (C) We have observed a significant up-tick in threats,
as well as incidents of surveillance, against USG personnel
and properties over the last three months. All threats are
treated seriously and precautions taken; fortunately, none
has come to fruition.
¶13. (S/NF) On October 12, unknown persons fired gunshots and
tossed an un-detonated grenade at the U.S. Consulate in
Monterrey. The attack occurred after hours, no one was
injured, and little damage occurred. No message was left and
we have uncovered no useful intelligence regarding the
authors or their motives. One unsubstantiated report cited a
source claiming a senior Gulf cartel leader ordered the
attack. However, with little hard evidence, no attempt to
claim credit and no follow on incident to date, the
possibility remains that this was an isolated, possibly even
impulsive, attack not likely undertaken at the behest of
senior cartel leaders.
¶14. (C) While the cartels have not yet directly targeted USG
law enforcement or other personnel, they have shown little
reticence about going after some of our most reliable
partners in Mexican law enforcement agencies. Ten close DEA
law enforcement liaison officers have been killed since 2007,
seven of whom were members of Special Vetted Units.
Similarly, within the past two years 51 close FBI contacts
have been murdered. More than sixty of Mexico’s best law
enforcement officers in whom we have placed our trust and
with whom we have collaborated on sensitive investigations,
shared intelligence and in many cases trained and vetted have
been murdered by the cartels. We do know from sources that
cartel members have at least contemplated the possibility of
doing harm to both our personnel and institutions, but we
frankly don’t know enough about how DTO members think and
operate to know what factors might trigger a decision to
mount such an attack, but the potential threat is very real.
¶15. (C) We assess that the threat to U.S. personnel could
increase if the violence continues to escalate and more
high-level government officials and political leaders are
targeted. Also, a reaction may be triggered if traffickers
perceive their losses are due to U.S. support to the GOM’s
counter-narcotics efforts. We will continue to monitor
potential threats to U.S. personnel from organized criminal
gangs and be alert to information that suggests drug
traffickers increasingly see the U.S. hand as responsible for
their losses.
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A Measure of Success?
———————
¶16. (C) While attributing last year’s significant spike in
violence to its own successes marks an effort by the Calderon
administration to put the best face possible on a grim
situation, there is also considerable truth to the assertion.
President Calderon’s counter-narcotics team has scored
significant successes, particularly in the last 12 months.
Record numbers of weapons and drugs have been seized, key
members of drug cartels have been arrested and/or extradited,
cartel sources inside government institutions have been
arrested ) including a former Deputy Attorney General and
the head of Interpol in Mexico. The GOM has disrupted cartel
operations in meaningful ways; in year-end reports SEDENA and
SEMAR reported that together they have reduced the maritime
trafficking of illicit drugs by 65 percent and cut direct air
transit of illegal drugs from Colombia by 90 percent.
According to collaborative sensitive reporting, the January
2008 arrest of Alfredo Beltran Leyva split the Pacific
Cartel, and accentuated antagonism between that DTO and the
Gulf organization which caused the spike in violence in
Chihuahua, Sinaloa, and Baja California (see also MEXICO
1766). In addition to these rifts, frustrated traffickers
have turned to kidnappings and extortion to compensate for
the loss in drug-trafficking revenue, expanding their reach
and impacting a greater number of bystanders who have no
involvement in DTO activities. These kinds of impacts bring
home to ordinary Mexicans the nature of the struggle here.
——-
Outlook
——-
¶17. (C) Mexican authorities and law enforcement analysts
predict that violence will likely get worse before it gets
better. Recent truce rumors notwithstanding, there is
currently no indication that the violence will soon abate;
CENAPI reports 280 killings for the first 20 days of January.
The cartels have shown themselves to be remarkably
innovative, vicious, and resilient when aggressively
confronted. Given their powerful weaponry and deep
penetration of the country’s security institutions, further
attacks against security forces and government officials seem
all but inevitable. However, while violence remains at
unacceptably high levels here, we have no reason to believe
at this point that it will escalate either quantitatively or
qualitatively.
Visit Mexico City’s Classified Web Site at
http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/wha/mexicocity and the North American
Partnership Blog at http://www.intelink.gov/communities/state/nap /
BASSETT
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Heavy stuff going on now in Apatzingan, Michoacan.
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Vamanos pa’ Apatzingan, pa’ la vida disfrutar-Apreciables del Norte, I just subsituted Culiacan w/ Apatzingan. Too many get-away roads in Apatzingan-an uncle called me sayint the [azules] were kick’n up dust at the citizens expense because they don’t even want to say which cars or direction the “lacras” went. I’ll be over there waiting 4 them if they choose to approach! bang/bang Like Bam’Bam from the Flinstones…
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There is a lot of people saying that a chopper was taken down and at least 50 Feds killed, anyone knows abou this ????? Or is just rumor ???? And also that since the early morning the battle is still going and that is expected a huge reinforce by the two sides….
I don’t know people in Apatzingan , that why I ask…. And the national media is full with the same
short report, and the media in mich was taken down maybe by the massive need on info….. Or to keep the truth locked ???
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No chopper was brought down, them familia don’t know how to shoot for shet, this time like all the time la familia salio perdiendo, like always, their leaders are falling quicker than ever before, the piojos were so desperate they started jacking citizens cars to burn them..that’s how pathetic they are…i hope shit doesnt get tto in Arteaga where i have family…
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move Reply:
December 9th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Neither of them won or lost. PF aint great marksmen either. Let’s not confuse them with La Marina. Two girls lost their lives, one an infant, and one Federal, La Familia might of taken their dead with them if they had any but in reality we don’t know if any of them died. Plus PF makes anybody they catch from Sinaloa, Familia, Zetas, and Juarez a “Jefe”.
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El Ventilador Reply:
December 9th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Pues no lo digo yo pero se esta poniendo cada vez mas duro el pedo, bloqueda morelia y otros municipios mas
MORELIA, Mich., 9 de diciembre de 2010.-Fuertes enfrentamientos que ocasionaron la suspensión de actividades oficiales y cierre de comercios, se registra entre autoridades federales y sicarios en Apatzingán, donde los helicópteros utilizan su artillería, mientras el crimen organizado responde con lanza granadas, además de armas de asalto y fusiles Barrett.
Un helicóptero del que se desconoce su adscripción, ya sea de la SEDENA o l SSP federal, fue derribado en las inmediaciones del poblado Presa del Rosario, a seis kilómetros de Apatzingán.
El primer zafarrancho inició al filo del mediodía de este jueves, cuando helicópteros que sobrevolaban entre el panteón municipal de Apatzingán y el poblado Presa del Rosario, abrieron fuego con su artillería, lo que fue respondido con lanza granadas y fusiles Barrett, calibre 50 milímetros.
Informes extraoficiales y testimonios gráficos del portal de noticias Primera Plana, que dirige la periodista apatzinguense Amada Prado Valencia, destacan que un helicóptero fue derribado en las inmediaciones del poblado Presa del Rosario.
También se conoció que a las 14:00 horas cuando menos había dos personas muertas y una decena de heridos.
Cerca de las 13:00 horas, en el centro de Apatzingán, un helicóptero lanzó ráfagas de metralla hacia la zona donde se encuentra la biblioteca pública Benito Juárez, lo que ocasionó que los transeúntes huyeran en desbandada ante el riesgo de ser alcanzados por las balas.
En ese momento, los comercios cerraron sus cortinas, las autoridades civiles suspendieron sus actividades y la población se refugió en sus casas.
Los enfrentamientos se siguen registrando en el rumbo del pueblo Presa del Rosario, mientras que por las calles de Apatzingán, existen recorridos de vehículos militares, de la Policía Federal y de sicarios, lo que ocasiona casuales zafarranchos.
Trascendió que ante la magnitud de los hechos, aeronaves de la Secretaría de Marina, Armada de México, se trasladan hacia Apatzingán para reforzar las acciones de la milicia.
La población apatzinguense, entrevistada vía telefónica, comentan que se sienten sitiados, porque no pueden entrar ni salir de la población y conforme se recrudecen las acciones, ni de sus casas.
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El Ventilador Reply:
December 9th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Este reportero si esta en apatzingan :
Apatzingán, Mich, 9 de diciembre.- Al menos un helicóptero derribado es el saldo de la balacera que ya dura más de una hora, y en la que participan elementos del Ejército y la Policía Federal, y grupos armados apostados a la altura de la comunidad de Presa del Rosario, distante a 5 minutos de la cabecera municipal. Los hechos iniciaron poco después de las 12:00 horas cuando helicópteros que sobrevolaban entre el panteón municipal y Presa del Rosario lanzaron disparos a tierra, y en respuesta se desató un intercambio de fuego cruzado en el que se han utilizado lanza granadas, y armas calibre .50, entre otras de grueso calibre. En estos momentos se siguen escuchando disparos hacia el rumbo de la Presa del Rosario, y los helicópteros no han dejado de sobrevolar la ciudad y de hacer disparos hacia tierra, causando pánico entre la población que tuvo que correr para no ser alcanzada por las balas tiradas cerca de la biblioteca Benito Juárez, y en el centro de esta ciudad. Los reportes obtenidos por “Primera Plana” confirman el derribo de la aeronave, pero se ignora si es de la PFP o del Ejército. Lo que sí se tiene con certeza es que los enfrentamientos se han generalizado por toda la ciudad, y que grupos armados de civiles, lo mismo que de las fuerzas del orden federales, patrullan la ciudad. Ante la magnitud del enfrentamiento iniciado ayer a las 17:00 horas, todas las actividades oficiales, comerciales y privadas están suspendidas en estos momentos en Apatzingán, y la gente permanece en sus casas por temor a ser alcanzado por una bala.
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esa mentada familia de cagada son bien mierdas, ojala les den tronco los marinos a todos en cuanto los tengan con el culo pa’rriba.
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move Reply:
December 9th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
“esa mentada familia de cagada son bien mierdas”
This coming from the guy that cheerleads the zetas because Arputo begged for their help.
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move Reply:
December 9th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
“ojala les den tronco los marinos”
Now you like La Marina? Remember when those Zetas killed the mother of that fallen marino in her sleep. You were all in favor of that, because la Marina showed Arputos bloody panties to the world. You said that will teack them a lesson, remember?
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Pepito Reply:
December 9th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
checkmate.
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En televisa hace poco dijieron que segun informacion extraoficial uno de los caidos fue el tal Nazario aka El Chayo, one of the 4 head leaders…
http://www.puntoporpunto.com/family1.jpg
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El Ventilador Reply:
December 9th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=aCv46KvduBw
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?xl=xl_blazer&v=0S4bRpR_pZI
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?xl=xl_blazer&v=Htx9zvOl_mY
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?xl=xl_blazer&v=Ys-PLLCKITs
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?xl=xl_blazer&v=6cdn_BvGtf8
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?xl=xl_blazer&v=7WvImmWMjpE
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?xl=xl_blazer&v=DSYwRcJ134c
quien sabe pero si se dieron durisimo, veanlos antes que los robe el
blog del narco lol
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Mario Reply:
December 9th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
No jalan los enlaces!
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I don’t know why everyone is in such an uproar over the Wikileaks shit. Who is surprised? We know this kind of stuff goes on within every government in the world. The US just happened to get busted (like me). I don’t think it’s a big deal. The US gets made fun of by their allies & enemies also. It’s just part of modern life and politics. Like guns.
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Michael and everyone out there, you may have seen this, but what do you think ????? Truth ??? Or just a morro en un cyber……. It arrive at the page diario del narco, http://www.diariodelnarco.com
CUÍDATE FELIPE CALDERON REZA A TU SANTO POR QUE NOSOTROS TRAEMOS LA BENDICIÓN DE NUETRO DIOS NUESTRO DIOS NAZARIO QUE DIOS LO TENGA EN SU GLORIA ESTO NO VA A PARA HASTA QUE LA FAMILIA MICHOACANA MUERA Y NUNCA VAN A MORIR LOS PUMAS, LOS BRAVOS, LOS LEONES, LA RESISTENCIA, EL 5-5, LOS ÉLITES, LOS LF, LOS CHAYITOS, LOS MACHITOS, LAS FIERAS, LOS X, LOS DE LA A, Y MUCHOS MAS VAMOS POR CALDERÓN Y TODO SU petunia FAMILIA YA ESTAN EN MICHOACAN Y RECONOZCAN CHERAN, CAPACUARO, CHERANASTICO, LA ARANTEPACUA, LA MOHONERA, NUEVO MORELOS, PARACHO, ESTAN CONOSOTROS CONCENTRADOS ESTO NO ES NARCO TERRORISMO ES UNA GUERRILLA ES LA GERRA POR LA PAZ Y FUERA FEDERALES DE MICHOACAN EL DON JUAN DE ARANTEPACUA TIENE SU GENTE Y VAMOS A DAR LA VIDA POR TODO SALUDOS.
MENSAJE PARA LOS MICHOACANOS
NO SE ASUSTEN TRATEN DE NO SALIR A LA CALLE PARA QUE LOS PUERCOS FEDERALES NO LES FALTEN AL RESPETO Y PARA EVITAR LAS BALAS PERDIDAS Y MAS PERDIDAS .
NO VAYAN A HOSPITALES
NO VAYAN A TIENDAS
VEAN LA TELE
QUÉDENSE EN SU CASAAA PORFAVOOOR
ATTE:
LA FAMILIA MICHOACANA
EL FANTASMA 6 Y BRAVO 6
RESPETO Y APOYO A NUESTROS LIDERES
EL CHANGO Y LA TUTA (SUCESOR DE CHAYO)
Y SUCESORES DE DE LA TUTA
CENIZO Y EL BRAVO 6
PA QUE ABLEN CON ARGUMENTOS LES DECIMOS QUIENES SON LOS JEFES DE LA FAMILIA PA QUE NO ENGAÑEN ALA GENTE Y LE DIGAN MAS MENTIRAAS AMAMOS A LA NACIÓN Y MAS AL PUEBLO MICHOACANO
EL BRAVO 6 DESDE URUAPAN MICHOACAN
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parece que ahora si se los estan chihuahuando a los putos.
pinche familia de jodidos!!
http://www.lajornadamichoacan.com.mx/2010/12/11/index.php?section=politica&article=003n1pol
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What I found different in this note is they actually put a number of the sicarios involved , what i don’t understand it’s how the stole the body , well from where ???
Las autoridades mexicanas continuaban el sábado en la búsqueda del cuerpo de Nazario Moreno alias ‘El Chayo’, líder del cártel de ‘La Familia’, abatido el jueves y cuyo cadáver habría sido rescatado por sus sicarios cuando se replegaban a una zona serrana de difícil acceso.
“El gobierno federal reforzó el operativo coordinado Michoacán, con el fin de proteger a las comunidades de actos violentos realizados en los últimos días” por el cártel de ‘La Familia’, dijo el sábado por medio de un comunicado la secretaría de Seguridad Pública.
Las labores de inteligencia y operativos antidrogas, integrados por militares y agentes federales, fueron reforzadas en Michoacán, uno de los estados más pobres de México, importante productor de marihuana y feudo de ‘La Familia’.
Varios vehículos quemados continuaban el sábado bloqueando la entrada de la ciudad de Apatizingán, al sur del estado, tras las batallas sin cuartel registradas desde el miércoles, en las que según el gobierno habría sido abatido Nazario Moreno, capo del cártel.
“Que quede claro: no vamos a dar marcha atrás”, dijo el sábado Genaro García Luna, secretario de Seguridad Pública durante la ceremonia luctuosa de los cinco policías caídos.
Según el gobierno mexicano, Moreno, por quien ofrecía una recompensa de más de dos millones de dólares, era el máximo dirigente y líder espiritual de ‘La Familia’, una organización basada en una mística religiosa con la que justifica sus sanguinarios asesinatos.
El cártel irrumpió en la región en 2006 cuando cinco cabezas fueron arrojadas en la pista de baile de un bar con un mensaje que decía: “Sólo muere quien debe morir. Sépanlo toda la gente; esto es justicia divina”.
La secretaría de Seguridad Pública inició el miércoles una ofensiva contra la organización criminal, que había ofrecido una tregua durante diciembre, al obtener información sobre el lugar donde se encontraba el ‘El Chayo’ en una ceremonia religiosa en Apatzingán, según reportes de prensa mexicana.
La incursión de un convoy de policías en la ciudad alertó a los sicarios que iniciaron con un ataque al que le sucedieron refriegas durante varias horas del miércoles y el jueves entre uniformados y pistoleros con un saldo oficial de 11 personas muertas, entre ellas un bebé de ocho meses, una adolescente de 17 años y cinco uniformados.
El cuyo cuerpo de ‘El Chayo’, quien según el periódico La Jornada contaba con una guardia personal de unos 400 hombres, fue retirado por sus sicarios replegados hacia la sierra.
Desde las primeras horas del viernes militares se dirigieron a las montañas del sur de Michoacán, una zona de difícil acceso con pequeñas poblaciones aisladas, para buscar a otros operadores de ‘La Familia’, publico el sábado La Jornada.
La población de Apatizingán vuelve poco a poco a su actividades cotidianas, pese a que en las calles aún humean algunos de los vehículos incendiados durante las balaceras y sólo se puede ingresar a la ciudad por un accidentado camino de tierra debido a que la entrada principal esta bloqueada.
Caravanas de vehículos militares y policías federales circulan por la carretera que va a Morelia, capital del estado, en la han vuelto a circular que automóviles particulares, cuando las casetas de cobro aún permanecen abandonadas por los encargados del cobro de peaje.
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From rptalk forum yesterday…
Heading north to the border from Penasco this afternoon on Highway 8. At approximately 2PM, at kilometer post 35, my wife and I noticed what appeared to be some clothing dumped on the right (east) side of the highway. My wife commented that she thought she saw a man laying there, but didn’t think that the person was sleeping. We continued heading north, and flagged down a pickup truck of Sonoyta Municipal Police heading south. They were responding to a report of bodies spotted along the highway. My wife rode with the officer and directed him to the location of what we saw. Turned out to be four male bodies dumped approximately 20 feet east of the highway, in plain view. Pretty soon the area was swamped with Sonoyta Municipal Police, State Judicial Police, and a PEI helicopter. However, no Mexican Federal Police any where in site.
After taking info from my wife, we were sent on our way. Interesting, that when we arrived at the border, there were no previous reports made to USBCI. A pretty brazen event, dumping bodies in plain view along the highway in the middle of the day. A strong message to someone. A very nauseating ending to several very happy days spent with friends and relatives in Penasco.
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ajajaja another operation involving the pfp.. en delicias. they captured “cumbias” again.. funny shit… i could have sworn that they captured him november 17 of this year..ssp pgr pfp need to step their intel game up….. dudes dont know what the fcuk theyre doing….. nimodo….. alguien me puede decir ke significa cuando encobijan a uno?????
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ilegal Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 8:56 am
al que agarraron esa vez fue al dorado.
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Mario Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Significa que tienen frio.
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Hi Michel,
I was trying to find an article about this one from El Imparcial in English from the GOOD OL’ American Press and found nothing. Whats up with that?
http://www.elimparcial.com/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Nacional/13122010/484272.aspx
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Michel Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 9:52 am
Ahi esta, vato,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/12/AR2010121202663.html?hpid=topnews
A bigger concern is the fact that the Mexican press only rewrote the Washington Post story. They’re not trying to do the work themselves.
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LOL Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 10:34 am
A la madreeee, no se usar GOOGLE yo creo.
Thanks for making me look bad in front of everyone. GOOD article!
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Presumen escapó ‘El Chapo’ de tiroteo en que cayó lugarteniente
Uno de los principales operadores del Cártel de Sinaloa en el estado, Enrique López Acosta, “El Cumbias”, fue detenido en un enfrentamiento ocurrido entre la noche del viernes y la madrugada del sábado en la ciudad de Delicias.
Fuentes extraoficiales indicaron que el detenido se hallaba en una reunión con otros operadores de ese cártel, en la que se presume también se encontraba Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán Loera, quien habría logrado escapar.
Se conjetura asimismo que otro de los cabecillas del cártel, Noel Salgueiro, mejor conocido como “El Flaco”, resultó lesionado, pero logró huir del lugar.
En la refriega, habría caído muerto el hermano de “El Cumbias”, de nombre Ever Horacio López Acosta, de 27 años, quien tenía su domicilio en el municipio de Rosales, se informó también de manera extraoficial.
Enrique López Acosta -quien en su largo historial delictivo está acusado de la autoría de la matanza de ocho personas en Creel en marzo pasado-, fue herido en el enfrentamiento contra efectivos del Ejército Mexicano.
La detención la llevaron a cabo activos de la V Zona Militar en coordinación con elementos de la Zona 42, luego de tener conocimiento de que el ahora detenido supuestamente efectuaba una fiesta de cumpleaños a una de sus hijas en el exclusivo fraccionamiento Campestre en Delicias.
El despliegue de los elementos castrenses se realizó en las inmediaciones del sitio donde se encontraba López Acosta para efectuar las correspondientes detenciones, pero al oponer resistencia, se desató la balacera.
Hasta el momento se desconoce si más personas fueron detenidas como resultado de este enfrentamiento.
Tras ser herido, López Acosta fue llevado al Hospital Regional de Delicias, que fue resguardado por al menos 30 elementos castrenses, según se pudo apreciar.
El ingreso a este hospital fue negado incluso a pacientes que buscaban una consulta, en tanto que el personal castrense que se quedó a cargo de la vigilancia, clasificaba el nivel de urgencia médica en base al cual, sólo ingresaban contados pacientes.
La avenida Río Conchos, entre la calle Agricultura y la calle 7ª, en el sector Poniente de la ciudad, fue cerrada al tráfico local, para evitar que se pudiera presentar un intento de rescate por parte de grupos de sicarios.
El detenido, una vez identificado y recuperado de sus heridas, fue llevado a instalaciones en la capital del país, ya que se temía que hubiera intentos de rescatarlo.
“El Cumbias” fue identificado como el líder del comando que en marzo pasado llegó a Creel, Bocoyna, para ejecutar al menos a ocho personas.
En el video captado por las cámaras del centro de mando C-4 de la ciudad de Chihuahua, durante el ataque perpetrado en Creel y que posteriormente fue filtrado a los medios de comunicación, fue uno de los últimos escándalos que enfrentó la ahora ex procuradora Patricia González Rodríguez.
El video, que fue tomado el 15 de marzo, muestra la llegada de un comando de por lo menos 12 camionetas a la comunidad serrana, el cual se despliega en busca de sus víctimas. Se observa que López Acosta era quien daba las órdenes a los sicarios.
La anterior administración estatal de Chihuahua y, más específicamente la Secretaría de Seguridad Pública estatal, fue criticada severamente porque tuvo conocimiento del tiroteo en el que se atacaba una casa y, sin embargo, no actuó ni para evitar los disparos ni para detener a los gatilleros..
El 16 de abril, la Procuraduría General de Justicia del Estado dio a conocer que el grupo de sicarios que atacó varias comunidades del municipio de Bocoyna el 15 de marzo, con un saldo de ocho muertos, era una célula del Cártel de Sinaloa comandada por “El Cumbias” que iba en busca de integrantes de “La Línea”.
La entonces procuradora de Justicia Patricia González Rodríguez aseguró que se identificó a varios de los criminales, entre ellos al líder del grupo, Enrique López Acosta, “El Cumbias”, quien tiene antecedentes penales por tráfico de drogas.
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ilegal Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
no creo que el montaperros andaba ahi, ya estuviera el move bien triste llorando lagrimas de sangre por el culo, lol!!
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move Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
ILegal let me repeat again. I could care less if Chapo lives or dies. I didn’t shine his shoes like you did to Arputo. The only reason I mess with you is because you actually do care what happens to Arputo. You know you had a messed up day you heard Arputo was killed. Your putttaaa ass was probably suicidal for a minute. You were so messed up that you actually thought it a good thing that those guys killed the Marino’s mother in her sleep. So they will learn, right ilegal? That’s what you said. What kind of idiot would say something like? Oh yeah a putttaaa that calls herself ilegal that was in love with Arputo.
You actually make yourself believe you have some sort attachment to the guy. Why? Because you are a pathetic putttaaa that’s why. Look Arputo was stupid. That’s just fact. If you don’t want to accept that’s on you. Keep being a pathetic putttaaa.
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Michel Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Por el amor de Dios. Do you two payasos realize that you’ve been carrying on this argument for over a year now?
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nephew Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
lol…….kiss and make up already…..
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EnPokasPalabras Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
It’s a retarded cycle between both of them… I saw this post because your name was on it… But for months now, I’ll see their name and I wont even bother to read it… ridiculous & silly…
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move Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
You know you can always delete. It is your site.
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Michel Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Yes – or you could move on to other topics and quit squabbling about that one. It’s been a year. More.
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ilegal Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
the size of you reply tellls me you are a crying pulmon, lmao!
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move Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Yeah small one line responses is what you’re about. Like the time you cheered on the murder of that marino’s. Just because La Marina exposed Arputo’s bloody vagina.
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YEY-MONEY Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:04 am
LOL..Its been more then a year since it started..
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Tubutama video
http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2010/12/video-del-enfrentamiento-en-tabutama.html#more
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One of the greatest leaders of the Sinaloa cartel was arrested locally this Sunday night after the birthday party of one of the daughters in the division Campestre.
Se trata Enrique López Acosta “El Cumbias”. It is Enrique López Acosta “El Cumbias.”
El dispositivo se desplegó con apoyo de tres helicópteros que sobrevolaban coordinando las operaciones de tierra, en donde se utilizaron vehículos blindados, hummer y ambulancias; encapsulando el exclusivo fraccionamiento Campestre de Delicias donde se efectuaba una fiesta familiar. The device was deployed in support of three helicopters flying ground coordinating operations, where they used armored vehicles and ambulances hummer, encapsulating the exclusive gated Country Delicias in which a family party.
Lo anterior luego de que inteligencia militar llevara a cabo la planeación de las acciones e instalara en diversos puntos de la ciudad retenes. This after military intelligence to undertake the planning of actions and installed at various checkpoints around the city.
El hospital Regional del ISSSTE ubicado en la avenida Agricultura fue resguardado fuertemente por decenas de unidades y elementos de la Policía Federal y del Ejército, donde trascendió que fue trasladado “El Cumbias” herido durante la balacera que se registró al intentar darse a la fuga. Regional ISSSTE hospital located on Avenida Agriculture was heavily guarded by dozens of units and elements of the Federal Police and Army, where he learned that he was moved “The Cumbias” wounded during the shootout that occurred while trying to flee.
El Cumbias” fue dentificado por las anteriores autoridades de la Procuraduría de Justicia como jefe del grupo criminal que asesinó de 8 personas en San Juanito y Creel, Municipio de Bocoyna, el pasado 15 de marzo, caso primero filtrado a Televisa Nacional por medio de un video oficial en el que aprecia la actuación de los sicarios. The Cumbias “was IDENTIFYING by the previous authorities of the Attorney General as head of the criminal group that killed 8 people in San Juanito and Creel, Bocoyna Township, on 15 March, Televisa case first filtered through a National official video in which appreciates the actions of the gunmen.
Durante 58 minutos, los integrantes de este grupo criminal establecieron un retén, al parecer en busca de algunas personas, y simultáneamente se dirigieron principalmente a 2 casas, una de las cuales que se encontraba semi-vacía, fue incendiada, y otra, que fue donde hirieron a las 2 mujeres. For 58 minutes, the members of this criminal group set up a roadblock, apparently looking for some people, and simultaneously directed primarily to 2 houses, one of whom who was semi-empty, was burned, and another that was where the 2 women injured. Habiéndose determinado que el grupo criminal buscaba a los moradores de estos 2 domicilios, ya que según testimonios, el propietario de este segundo domicilio había facilitado el ocultamiento de Germán Loya “La Gaviota”, perteneciente al grupo criminal “La Línea”. Having determined that the criminal group was looking for the inhabitants of these 2 homes, and who according to witnesses, the owner of the second house had facilitated the concealment of Germain Loya “The Seagull”, belonging to a criminal group “The Line.”
Se espera que en las próximas horas las autoridades hagan la presentación oficial del hombre, quien era un prófugo de la justicia ya que la PGR ofreció una recompensa por información que llevara a su captura. It is expected that within hours the authorities make the official presentation of the man who was a fugitive from justice and that the PGR has offered a reward for information leading to his capture.
“EL CUMBIAS” SUS DETENCIONES Y SALIDAS “Cumbia” THEIR ARRESTS AND DEPARTURES
“El Cumbias”, fue detenido tres veces por autoridades federales, ministeriales y municipales en los últimos tres años en ciudad Delicias, sin que ninguna autoridad lograra mantenerlo tras las rejas. “The Cumbias, was arrested three times by federal authorities, ministries and municipalities in the past three years in Delicias city, but no authority managed to keep him behind bars.
ENTRE EL 2003 Y 2006: EU LO DETIENE Y DEJA IR Between 2003 and 2006: STOP IT AND LET U.S. GO
Fue detenido por autoridades estadounidenses por el delito de tráfico de drogas, sin que tengan mayores detalles sobre los motivos de su libertad. He was arrested by U.S. authorities on charges of drug trafficking, without giving further details on the reasons for his freedom.
2007 2007
Fue detenido y acusado de ejecutar a 2 personas, pero minutos después fue dejado en libertad. He was arrested and charged with running a 2 people, but minutes later was released.
Fue la PGJE quien inició una búsqueda para detener a Enrique López, del cual se dijo que tenía su domicilio en la Calle Libertad número 5 del municipio de Rosales. It was the PGJE who initiated a search to arrest Enrique Lopez, which was said to have his home on Calle Libertad No. 5 in the municipality of Rosales.
En ese tiempo López Acosta circulaba a bordo de una camioneta Voyager blanca modelo 98, por la avenida Gómez Morín y Quinta Oriente en Delicias, cuando al verse descubierto por agentes ministeriales de Delicias, sacó su pistola tipo escuadra calibre 9 milímetros y les apuntó en un intento por escapar; pero en segundos se vio rodeado de unidades del grupo de Homicidios de la Policía Ministerial y de Seguridad Pública Municipal, obligándolo a bajar el arma ya entregarse. At that time López Acosta circulated to board a white van model 98 Voyager by Gomez Morin Avenue and East Fifth Delicias, where at being discovered by ministerial officials Delicias, drew his pistol 9 mm square type and they said in a attempt to escape, but in seconds he was surrounded by units of the group of the murders of the Ministerial Police and Municipal Public Security, forcing him to drop the weapon and surrender.
Cabe destacar que Enrique López “El Cumbias”, durante los hechos se encerró en su vehículo y se negaba a salir desatendiendo el llamado de los Municipales; quienes presumiendo un delito mayor, rodearon con varias patrullas a “El Cumbias”, inclusive fueron ellos quienes pidieron el apoyo de la AFI vía telefónica, acudiendo los agentes Arturo Hernández Estrada y Rodolfo García Huerta, según consta en el parte informativo levantado por la Policía Municipal el 15 de abril. Notably, Enrique Lopez “El Cumbias” during the events are locked in your vehicle and refused to leave, disregarding the call of the Municipal, who assuming a felony, surrounded with several patrols “cumbia”, even they who requested the support of AFI telephone, visiting agents and Rodolfo Estrada Arturo Hernández García Huerta, as stated in the informative part built by the municipal police on 15 April. En cuanto observó a los agentes de la AFI el implicado se entregó, para minutos más tarde quedar libre. As he watched the AFI agents involved gave so minutes later be released.
Al entrevistar al agente del MPF en relación a dichos hechos, José Luis Alcalde Justiniano dijo que abriría una investigación, sin explicar exactamente qué fue lo que ocurrió. At the interview the agent of MPF in relation to those facts, José Luis Alcalde Justiniano said it would open an investigation, without explaining exactly what had happened.
2008 2008
En octubre del 2008 fue arrestado por el delito de lesiones por la Dirección de Seguridad Pública Municipal. In October 2008 he was arrested for the crime of injury by the Municipal Public Security Bureau.
2008 2008
En noviembre del 2008, policías ministeriales, municipales y federales lo detuvieron para investigación a raíz de la agresión a un guardia de seguridad en un centro nocturno. In November 2008, judicial police, municipal and federal arrested him for investigation following an attack on a security guard at a nightclub.
En esta ocasión, las declaraciones de López Acosta permitieron a los agentes federales ubicar un domicilio, en cuyos vehículos se encontraron varias armas de grueso calibre. On this occasion, the statements of López Acosta allowed federal agents to locate a home in which vehicles were several large-caliber weapons. Sin embargo, “el Cumbias” nuevamente quedó en libertad. However, “the Cumbias” again was released.
2010 2010
En enero fue identificado por un detenido a manos del Ejército, como el líder de una célula criminal en este municipio, además de contar con un arresto en Estados Unidos por tráfico de drogas. In January a detainee was identified by the Army, as the criminal cell leader in this county, in addition to an arrest in the United States for drug trafficking.
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this is the dude from the video in creole………….Anyone ever heard of this guy?
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seme ase ke el dorado le puso un 4 al cumbias….digo.
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ilegal Reply:
December 14th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
en caso de que alguien puso al cumbias, si es que lo pusieron, a de haber sido el traidor mata amigos del tuberculoso Salgueiro, asi se las gasta, ya ves como traiciono al asesino maniaco del quitapuercos y a el Arabe, y no se diga a su novia la doña Griego, al hijo y a su hermano, ese culero esta usando los cuerpos rafaguiados de sus amigos como escalones para subir..
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lamanonegra Reply:
December 14th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
pues dicen ke tmb atendio esa fiesta.. el f1.. no creo ke le aya puesto un 4.. tal ves era el animal?? kien sabe…..ase unos meses me toco ver unas mantas ke el f1 subio en unos puentes por la capital de chiwas diciendo ke ya estaba el c.d.g. y ke la linea ya tenia sus dias contados… jajajaj ke risa me dio.. apenas me acabo de acordar de eso..
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ilegal Reply:
December 14th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
mejor olvidate de eso que dije, jajajaja la pinchi tripa lavada no pasa del 2010…
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drift Reply:
December 14th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
cuando murio el Arabe? i dont think he’s dead, but i know that they have internal problems becuase of how they killed Quitapuercos by betraying them and other infighting because of la Dona
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ilegal Reply:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
al quitapuercos lo encontraron muerto junto con el arabe, o al menos eso se dice que lo allaron con el arabe, seria como en abril de este año, los mandaron a los dos segun a chihuas capital a matar y mover perico y alla los mataron, el flaco le dio el encargo a la doña, su novia en ese tiempo por cierto, y estado ya muerto el quitapuercos ella se quedo con su puesto.,,dicen los feos que al flaco le pegaron dos rafagazos esta vez cuando tramparon al cumbias, sabe si sera verdad, aun asi se pelo.
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asi es Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 12:21 am
hay algun link donde haya info al respecto de eso, ilegal?. digo! a menosn que puedas detallar mas lol!.
pero en serio, esta interesante el asunto, por lo que se leia en el video de youtube. que por lo que se ve las traiciones estan que quihubole por todos lados.
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ilegal Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 9:46 am
esque no todo esta en los diarios.
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asi es Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
si, es de suponerse. yo mas bien me referia a algun link de algun blog, ya que le busque por todos lados y no halle nada en concreto.
recuerdo los agarres que se daba ese compa con los otros compas en el video[QP] y por eso la pregunta.
gracias igual compa!.
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ilegal Reply:
December 16th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
y mucha gente dudaba que el quitapuercos fuera sicario porque se la llevaba en su canal aleganto con varios, hasta que lo demostro, despues de muerto de alguna manera la doña Griego era la que se hizo cargo del canal y posteo una o dos veces solamente para pedir informacion.
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michel here you can find more info that confirms Gary Webb’s investigation:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/big-media-s-guilt-in-gary-by-robert-parry-101209-822.html
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sigue la alianza sinaloa,cdg, lfm? que la causa de la balacera en jalisco era pa matar al tal zopilote , gente del chapo..segun dicen ke eran los del milenio,cdg,lfm a buscar a uno del cds.
http://www.notisistema.com/noticias/?p=327635
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Does anyone know how bad the narco-violence in Nogales (Sonora) is right now? And is Colonia Kennedy a centrally based and narco crime-free area?
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EnPokasPalabras Reply:
December 14th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
By centrally located, I mean in the downtown area, or in a commercial area as opposed to being in a residential zone?
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talegon Reply:
December 14th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
no its not in downtown…. it is a residential zone….nogales has been relatively calm compared to the first half of the year i believe so….ive heard of a couple of shootings en la colonia kenedy other than that nothing but again no neighborhood is gonna be a narco crime-free area in this times
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EnPokasPalabras Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 6:45 am
Gracias Talegon…
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BP AGENT SHOT AND KILLED http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/5b9d6508-085a-11e0-9eec-001cc4c03286.html
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vinotinto Reply:
December 15th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Condolences to the agent’s family
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Haber si no se chihuahuan a Jenny y a Lupillo ahora que se supo con son compadres de el cumbias…
“El Cumbias”, de 32 años de edad, fue arrestado luego de un enfrentamiento armado ocurrido entre la noche del viernes y la madrugada del sábado en la ciudad de Delicias, durante el festejo de XV años de su hermana, realizado en el exclusivo Country Club.
Las fotografías muestras la camioneta de lujo en que era trasladada la quinceañera, así como los invitados tirados en el piso durante el operativo.Dicha fiesta sería el evento del año, pues se presentarían, la Banda M-S, Banda Limón, Banda El Recodo, Lupillo Rivera, Jenny Rivera (Compadres de El Cumbias) y Los Rieleros del Norte, aseguraron varios de los invitados al evento.
Tan solo la renta del salón de eventos tiene un costo superior a los 50 mil pesos, de ser acertadas las versiones de los asistentes en cuanto a las bandas programadas, la música costaría más de 3 millones de pesos, las bebidas de marca costarían más de 600 mil pesos, la comida 200 mil, es decir que en total el festejo superó fácilmente los 5 millones de pesos.
Se destaco que el cantante Lupillo Rivera y su hermana Jenny Rivera, asistirían pasada la media noche al festejo, pues aseguraron que son padrinos del niño de 7 años de López Acosta.
De igual forma destacaron el que la fiesta había sido programada desde un año antes, se había anunciado de boca en boca como el evento “más importante” que se hubiera realizado en la región de Rosales y Delicias e incluso que para algunos de los habitantes de esos municipios la invitación tenía carácter de obligatorio.
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Well here’s a pic of Noel Salgueiro alias “El Flaco” head of chapo’s people in Chihuahua for those that havent seen it. This is the one that got away in “El Cumbias” party… 3 million pesos for his head.
http://i52.tinypic.com/68adxc.jpg
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asi es Reply:
December 16th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Se parece a MFG en sus tiempos de joven, a poco no?.
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Mario Reply:
December 17th, 2010 at 10:17 am
ah si, con razon se me hacia parecido pero no me acordaba a quien.
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ilegal Reply:
December 17th, 2010 at 9:24 am
y ahi en esa foto esta gordo el salitre a comparacion de ahorita, tiene una bala en la cabeza que le esta caminando y no pueden operarlo, esa madre se lo esta comiendo en vida.
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Double Rainbow All The Way!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I read this morning a story about the Lady who was killed in Chihuahua because she kept asking the Government to rearrest the murderer of her daughter. This remind me of the all the Women who were killed and / or disappeared in Juarez….. How soon we forget!!!!!!!!!!!
I am as neutral to this turf war as they come however; the original reason why I always leaned away from the people from Navolato was because of what occurred in Juarez with all those women years ago. Now I am not saying that the Carrettes were the ones behind all these murders. What I am saying is that it happened on their watch! It was their plaza! I hold them responsible!
I have never seen this posted but occasionally it comes up in conversation. Why were all these women disappearing? Men are killed everyday in Juarez and the streets are littered with them. But when a women turns up missing, she is never found.
Ask yourself, why are these women never found?? Probably because someone is trying to hide something. Maybe it is that they were sexually assaulted and don’t want people to find their DNA? Maybe there are some parts missing and they don’t want to create a uproar in the community
Here is my theory!
Men the ones that are killed everyday, “the disposable sicario” if you will, are generally young but they live a harsh lifestyle full of parties, drugs and probably some unprotected sex if they are lucky.
Women, tend to take better care of themselves not so many late nights, no drugs or alcohol and because of their biology, they tend to see a doctor more often then the men do. At the doctors office they would have a full makeup on them. Blood type and everything.
I put 2 and 2 together and come to the conclusion that they were being harvested for their organs. If I was a millionaire and had a bad heart, what would i give for an extra few years of life? What is the value of an 18 year old heart on the black market? A lot more than a few kilos of coke. Okay maybe not for me but what about for my kid? What would I give for my kids life??
Also the fact that it is in juarez border town with the US only strengthens my argument. Maybe they started with the immigrants that were trying to cross to the US and as the demand went up they moved into the women from Juarez.
Chapo is a cruel bastard and not the savior but when people talk crap about him being greedy and trying to take Juarez from the carrettes, I say good they don’t deserve it and should get booted out. It was their Plaza! Their watch! I hold them responsible! Since Rodolfo got killed the feminicidios have stopped!
You make your own conclusions……………………………………….
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T_R_C Reply:
December 19th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
2padre, I wish it were that simple, “keep your plaza clean and keep it.” There is way to much and too many players involved in those killings. The Municipal Police, gangs, predators, copycat predators, La Linea, Juarez Cartel Members, juniors, politicians, husbands getting rid of their wives, snuff flicks, abduction for prostitution, for sex slaves and the possibly organ transplant. All of the above were involved and there are thousands of them, not hundreds.
I thought about the organ transplant especially for kidney transplants but it is very unlikely because killing first and hoping for a 1 in 20,000 match would not be profitable. Some speculation was that doing pre-employment pregnancy tests and DNA on discarded sanitary napkins at the Maquillas’ got good match info. It could be possible for some of the murders but Juarez Noches, and predators killed the majority. They found some of the bodies because the killer wanted his crime signature seen.
El Chapo is not the answer. The Juarez Cartel will never let go of their plaza and they have 2 million to recruit from. All you are doing when you hope for them to fall for not protecting the innocent in their plaza is actually hoping that this prolonged misery continues for those poor souls.
The only end is a truce and cooperation between cartels again. But this phenomenon has created 2 generations of psychopaths and Mexico will never be the same. It is going to take a truce and very tough plaza bosses to stop the crap. El Chapo can’t do it long distance and probably has no interest in human rights. So the question is, can Cartels’ have ethics? From what I see, the answer is absolutely not.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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J Reply:
December 20th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
What was the notivation behind the killings of women, by La Linea, and Juarez cartel members? If it’s not killing for profit, or killing for pleasure, what was it?
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2padre Reply:
December 20th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
My theory of the clinics in Juarez as places were they were identified as potential matches makes perfect sence. Women come in daily for physicals. When a match is found, they have all their personal information on file. If they had medical coverage from the maquillas then the company doctor would have their medical make up. Not hard to find a match in a database of thousands.
The bodies found were a coverup. Throw a dog a bone.
When the Arretes were are their peak do you think that anything happened of any consequence in TJ without Ramon having a say in it.
Chapo sending people to Juarez to stir up problems (taken from Barbie’s coments)
Chapo Killing Rodolfo
The Federation split from the Carretes.
Chapo getting alleged protection from the government.
If you add those 4 things together I come up with this and again, its just my opinion. Calderon under huge pressure from the entire civilized world, gave Chapo protection as long as he fixed this problem in Juarez.
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2padre Reply:
December 20th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Also, If you have a group of thugs like the linea, picking up these women. What do you think happens to them before they are turned over to the docs? More than likely they are rapped. What do you think happens to a dog when you give him raw meat? he is no longer satisfied with kibbles and bits. It is possible that after they began snatching up women on their own for shits and giggles…
FUUUCKK wow shocking to think about it!
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J Reply:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Not that it bothers me, but why the different spelling of the names? I think it’s a great theory, I don’t know if it is true though, but it is bizarre that there is literally no explanation for that, years later, not even an attempt. Nothing, just thousands of murdered women, and no answer, that just stopped…in what 2007 or so? Good point about Tijuana, today still, nothing goes on without Inge knowing about it.
Going with your theory, the Juarez Cartel allowed these La Linea enforcers to ‘heat the plaza’ and draw national attention to them, because they wanted to rape women? Pretty unlikely. Someone must know, I think one or two posters from Juarez are here, I wonder what they think.
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J Reply:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/americas/mexico+missing+links+to+organ+trafficking/3497537.html
Article from this year about the organ trafficking/Juarez murders, I don’t know, but this just instantly rang true to me, as I briefly skimmed it. The ‘Nuestra Gente’ (our people), which is the Juarez cartel, right? The people in police uniforms coming in and out, dropping of weapons, just seemed true.
The Juarez women murder going back to 1993 are so hard to investigate, because there are so many suspects, and so many conflciitng reports, I’ll have to really spend some time on this, and buy some books before I really know much.
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2padre Reply:
December 21st, 2010 at 11:38 am
From what i got from the article, nuestra gente (our people) is not another faction of the cartel as the article makes it seem. The guy was just saying that the cops were on their side…
This would add another piece to the puzzle as to why people in these rehab clinics are linned up and executed in mass.
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J Reply:
December 21st, 2010 at 12:51 pm
I thought nuestra gente was the local Juarez slang for the Juarez cartel/Vicente Carrilo Fuentes group? Hence, ‘Gente Nueve’ was Sinaloa’s crew. Just a thought.
I meant the misspelling of the Carrillo’s and Arellanos, or was that just to save time too?
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2padre Reply:
December 21st, 2010 at 3:40 pm
You probably already know this but sudo nicknames are usualy made up by the media like the “the cosa nostra.” People feel better about themselves if they can label people and things that they either dont understand or they fear. Like Insurgents.
It is just the way of speaking vaguely. When the guy asked him the question “Who is that guy?” I can’t picture him answering the question “He is a member of our Continuing Criminal Organization headed VCF” he just simply responded he is “Our People”
As far as the Aretes and Caretes what can I say, if you dont know maybe you should find some other employment.
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2padre Reply:
December 21st, 2010 at 9:16 am
No reason for the name spelling changes, it all means the same thing just in a hurry I guess.
2 = two (sounds like tu)
2 + Padre = tu padre = Your Daddy!
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T_R_C Reply:
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:31 am
2padre,
“The Killing Fields” is an incredible book written by Diana Washington Valdez on this topic. She has been a reporter for the El Paso Times for I think more that 20 years. She goes deep into this topic and makes real all the different players involved with many of the killings. She also goes into theories and proves and disproves many of them. This lady had balls to write this book and publish it and continue to stay in El Paso. She talks a lot on the corruption and cover ups by almost all involved in the investigation and how lawyers were killed by state police for defending scapegoats charged with the crimes but were really innocent (and “the lawyer looked like a recent escaped convict” so they shot them, lol). And in the 90s, when the state and local police were involves, that was the la linea and the Juarez Cartel.
I visited the same “killing fields” as reported in the video in the above article. I have several photos but before in was road graded like shown in the video ( mine are in about 2005 or 2006). I think the mayor had it graded. A very close friend of mine lives there and is connected. He told me that this location was a hang out after 5:00 pm for municipal cops to hang out in there squad cars and drink beer. They were the culprits in those 8 particular murders.
These crimes are hideous and can only be committed by monsters. I do believe the Devil himself fears going into Juarez Mexico after dark. When you look into Juarez at night, or venture down the streets if you have the balls, there is a since that pure unadulterated evil has an eye on you “at all times” and everything you are doing. The feeling can consume you and it is real! “Pure Evil” is killing these girls.
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is this dramatic and sad or what? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOhTIPW2XuQ
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Mario Reply:
December 17th, 2010 at 11:14 am
I was just reading about that on diario de juarez, fooken judges, ojala se lo carguen , la madre no se dio por vencida y ayer la mataron frente al palacio de gobierno, pinshes jueces de mier**..el vato huyo pa zacatecas y se hizo zeta..shit like this will make any person take justice on his own.
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vinotinto Reply:
December 17th, 2010 at 11:21 am
got a link?
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Mario Reply:
December 17th, 2010 at 11:45 am
http://www.laparadadigital.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30006:el-miercoles-la-amenazaron-y-se-la-cumplieron-al-siguiente-dia&catid=6:noticias-destacadas
caught on tape
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHimtxbquwU&feature
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vinotinto Reply:
December 17th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
more proof of Mexico being failed state is not needed
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El Ventilador Reply:
December 18th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
The nightmare for this innocent people sadly is not over:
http://lapolaka.com/2010/12/18/familia-de-marisela-en-grave-peligro/
http://lapolaka.com/2010/12/17/primero-muerta-que-vencida/
http://lapolaka.com/2010/12/18/monumento-a-la-impotencia-y-dolor/
http://lapolaka.com/2010/12/18/estado-de-sitio-en-funerales-de-marisela/
And also here I leave you a testimony of the awful truth under CalNeron ( he prefers to watch the country on fire instead of going after the corruption and impunity )
http://m.elgolfo.info/0/vnc/nota.vnc?id=50701
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el que paga manda, ya la cuajo el Vicentillo de los Carretes
http://www.debate.com.mx/eldebate/Articulos/ArticuloPrimera.asp?IdArt=10466588&IdCat=6087
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Michael and everyone out there, what do you think about the letter send to several newspapers in Mexico from the misteriosos desaparecedores, the ones that have Jefe Diego captive……
Adjuntamos la primera parte del Boletín.
Atte:
Los ex misteriosos desaparecedores.
EPÍLOGO DE UNA DESAPARICIÓN
Primera de tres.
Los clásicos no establecieron ningún principio que prohibiera matar, fueron los más compasivos de todos los
hombres, pero veían ante sí enemigos de la humanidad que no
era posible vencer mediante el convencimiento. Todo el afán de los clásicos estuvo dirigido a la creación de circunstancias en las que el matar ya no sea provechoso para nadie. Lucharon contra la violencia que abusa y contra la violencia que impide el movimiento. No vacilaron en oponer violencia a la violencia.
Bertolt Brecht
En México vivimos inmersos en un clima de creciente
violencia destructiva que las mafias del gobierno permiten y fomentan, porque sólo así pueden ocultar la sistemática
represión, tratar de controlar el descontento social e impedir, por el momento, que se generalice la lucha popular. Las formas de la violencia son cada vez más crueles y abominables; el conflicto no sólo ha dejado decenas de miles de personas muertas, sino terror e incertidumbre entre los vivos. La distancia entre el discurso de gobierno y las prácticas corruptas que lo caracterizan son una clara muestra de que los más altos funcionarios y las instituciones del Estado mexicano están coludidos con el crimen contra quien dicen estar luchando.
Esta contradicción inicial desata una cadena ininterrumpida de mentiras difundidas ampliamente por los medios de comunicación con los que están coludidos; esta difusión
forma parte de la violencia cultural que promueve, legitima y justifica la violencia directa que el gobierno sostiene, así como de la violencia del hambre, del desempleo, de la migración, de la delincuencia infantil y juvenil, de la trata de blancas. En fin, de esa violencia silenciosa que
obliga a gritar ¡Ya Basta!
Vemos día a día la impunidad militar, los levantones policiales para entregar víctimas al narco y la convivencia evidente entre presidente de la república, gobernadores,
senadores, dipetuniados, jueces, generales y jefes policiacos con los grandes capos, incluso, es posible afirmar que la alta burocracia y los sectores reaccionarios de la clase
política, son quienes forman parte de las mafias más criminales en nuestro país. La “guerra” que el gobierno dice sostener en aras de la paz, no combate la raíz del problema ni a los verdaderos delincuentes, los de cuello blanco, que con base en fobaproas, rescates empresariales,
privatizaciones(concesiones de carreteras, contratos
secretos del petróleo, de fibra óptica y otros recursos naturales) se enriquecen y adquieren la facultad de poner y quitar gobiernos.
Sin embargo la violencia más sofisticada, la que a diario nos golpea y quizá la que menos reconocemos como violencia, es la que parece no venir de ninguna persona; es la violencia estructural “invisible” presentada siempre como
“estragos”, “golpes” o “crisis internacionales” que parecen nunca terminar para Nosotros pueblo y que nos son presentadas como “avances”. El duopolio televisivo y gobernantes quieren que creamos en los “avances” y en la “modernidad” mientras hay más despidos, menos oportunidades de encontrar empleos productivos y un salario que cada día vale menos. Esa “modernidad” no es con la que soñamos ni la que queremos heredar a nuestros hijos.
La pobreza, para muchos la miseria, es una constante
amenaza de muerte y es mucho más poderosa que todos los grupos de sicarios juntos; la vida es reducida a su condición de supervivencia sin ninguna posibilidad de un desarrollo auténticamente humano. Estas condiciones acercan
a millones de personas más a la muerte que a la vida y
frente a este peligro (del que Ellos, los grupos
privilegiados, se benefician funcionalizando la pobreza al máximo) no se encontrarán soluciones concretas a menos que
lo hagamos Nosotros.
Así, la violencia visible-directa, la invisible-estructural (de la que parece no haber ningún responsable) y la cultural, son promovidas y sustentadas por los gobiernos; éstos, no son la representación política de todos los mexicanos, sino quienes velan por los intereses de una
restringida porción de la población, que
especialmente a un restringido número de familias que encabezan el control del poder, la clase privilegiada, que se hace carne y hueso en un entramado altamente sofisticado y eficiente de grupos y personajes clave, que con una planeación meticulosa y una larga carrera, se siguen
colocando en posiciones estratégicas para continuar beneficiándose a costa de todo un país. El gobierno es mafioso porque protege los intereses de los grandes ricos, de los dueños de todo, de los que saquean nuestros recursos naturales y trafican con todo desde personas hasta armas,
drogas e influencias. Es un gobierno que sirve a las mafias aliadas al capital trasnacional, también mafioso.
Desde allí operan por dentro y por fuera de la ley grandes intereses económicos y políticos, en un entramado múltiple de lazos familiares, de compadrazgo, de arreglos de conveniencia, secretos, pactos, complicidades, bendecidos por la cúpula de poder de la Iglesia católica y una certeza que los identifica: pertenecer a un grupo definido al que son leales, conscientes de ser Ellos quienes tienen el poder y la riqueza repartida entre sus manos.
Para Nosotros la violencia (la visible y la aparentemente invisible) se traduce en un constante peligro de muerte, debido por un lado, a la intensificación de los conflictos que el saqueo mafioso genera para obtener mayores ganancias, y por otro de manera cotidiana por las
condiciones de pobreza y miseria que reduce la vida a una lucha por la supervivencia y al andar diario por un estrecho pasillo de 60 pesos por familia; se vive al día y
no hay posibilidad de progreso. Vivimos en amenaza de muerte al tener acceso restringido a la alimentación, a la salud, a los servicios, a los derechos y a conocer la
justicia. Como así son las cosas, nos toca perder y como nos habíamos resignado, dejamos de sentir la violencia de
no poder vivir bien. En ese sentido también Nosotros
volvimos “normal” la violencia; violento no es solo lo que muestran los muertos, violento es también lo que ocultamos
los vivos.
La sociedad mexicana, como podemos ver, está divida en dos:
Ellos y Nosotros, Ellos ricos y Nosotros pobres, cuyos
mundos y realidades son totalmente opuestos pero existen y se desarrollan al mismo tiempo; es la historia que Ellos difunden como la evolución de un solo proyecto al que discursivamente pertenecemos “por igual y al mismo nivel” todos los mexicanos. Ellos aplauden los discursos del gobierno en los que se alude al avance y bienestar en
México, pues los confirman en su nivel de vida que
constantemente mejora (mejor alimentación, vestido, educación, salud, bienes muebles e inmuebles, lujos, vacaciones y descanso, etc.); sólo en su cerrado círculo el progreso es realidad.
Ellos acumulan riqueza por todos los medios, unos por la vía legal-permisible y otros de forma ilegal-criminal; ambos son lo mismo, pues siempre tienen la posibilidad (al ser Ellos quienes legislan) de transformar lo ilegal en ley y viceversa; en realidad no son extrañas las revelaciones de que la mayoría de las veces quienes viven para acumular riqueza no distinguen en sus círculos entre quienes “respetan las leyes” y entre quienes no lo hacen. Lo que
pasa es que unos ocupan cargos dentro de las instituciones del Estado y pueden, desde dentro, operar en su favor y ser
“muy legales”. Los intereses políticos y económicos son dos
frentes de una misma estrategia que viene fundida y defendida por la violencia. El gobierno mexicano se sostiene con el uso legal e ilegal de la violencia directa e indirecta, estructural y cultural, que lo construyen como
salvaguarda de una suerte de “demonio” engendrada por sí mismo.
Quienes encabezan al Estado sostienen discursivamente que
procuran alcanzar “la paz perpetua y el bienestar” en un futuro (que nunca llegará de ese modo), y por tal fin justifican su propio ejercicio de la violencia destructiva.
Esta utopía de la paz estatal, construye el argumento de legitimidad de la muerte en el presente. El peligro de muerte que Nosotros vivimos es producto del enfrentamiento de grupos de poder económico que luchan por el poder político. Su manera de actuar dentro del aparato estatal
despersonaliza decisiones que repercuten en la vida de personas concretas; la decisión burocrática agranda la distancia entre el funcionario y la gente de a pie, manejando públicamente la ficción de que “hacen política” con base en “el bien común”, aunque la comunidad esté
excluida, en todos los sentidos, de dicha actividad.
Que “el mundo de la política siempre sinónimo de corrupción e injusticia” es una afirmación común que sintetiza el sentir generalizado y que la estructura estatal y sus
funcionarios se encargan día a día de renovar; sin embargo la actividad política debe construirse con otro sentido,
considerándola como la capacidad de todos para decidir de manera real y directa sobre los asuntos de la vida en sociedad, así como de fundar y de alterar la legalidad que
rige la convivencia humana en pos del bienestar colectivo; la socialidad no debe existir para someter de una vez y para siempre, sino constituirse como la organización a la que se le puede dar forma a través de las decisiones de todos los integrantes. La organización, la instrucción y la disciplina son armas eficaces y hasta ahora son Ellos los que han sabido aprovecharlas. ¿Qué es lo que hace que siendo Ellos tan pocos, puedan someter a tantos Nosotros?
Una de las respuestas más certeras es el uso exclusivo que Ellos hacen de “la fuerza del Estado”; sin embargo, que Ellos sean los que poseen el monopolio total y definitivo del uso de la violencia y la ejerzan “solo cuando es justo
y necesario” en aras del “bien para todos” es una mentira que nos hemos propuesto derrumbar.
Por paradójico que parezca, la historia de la humanidad
demuestra que, para generar las condiciones humanas de existencia, se necesita en ciertos momentos ejercer la
violencia como una adecuación social que hace permisible terminar con ciertas formas de vida para generar otras. La
violencia destructiva, como la que ejerce el gobierno, sólo concibe destruir sin construir algo superior y distinto que constituya verdaderamente un estado mejor de vida y no sólo
para unos pocos. La violencia es constructiva cuando es rebeldía frente a la amenaza de muerte, cuando enfrenta a la muerte personificada por quienes nos someten a la
miseria. La violencia, al tener rostro de muerte, nos es presentada como injustificable, sobre todo si atenta contra el poder establecido.
El discurso gubernamental la repudia e invita a preservar el orden, o protestar dentro de los marcos institucionales
que no operan de acuerdo al fin para el que fueron creados, como un recurso que le queda para seguir operando bajo la cara de “la legalidad” y “la democracia” presentándose como el resultado histórico de las luchas del pasado. Así,
lo violento es presentado como lo anti-estatal; la única política permitida es la actividad esencialmente no-política, acompañada de la resignación. La violencia
cultural es la más sofisticada porque guarda al Estado bajo un marco de “aceptabilidad” y muestra a los enemigos de quienes lo comandan, o sea, a los que luchan contra el mal gobierno, como enemigos de toda la sociedad.
Pero ¿este gobierno mafioso es el único viable en nuestro país? Sabemos que no, otro México es posible y lo tenemos
que construir Nosotros los de abajo, desde las
organizaciones obreras, campesinas, ecologistas, de colonos, de víctimas de la delincuencia y crímenes del ejército y policías. Nos toca a nosotros, al pueblo mexicano organizado de diferentes formas y recurriendo a todos los medios, armados y no armados, ir construyendo con nuestra rebeldía organizada, un nuevo México en el que todos podamos ser y vivir con dignidad.
El ejercicio de la violencia es para Nosotros un recurso ineludible, pero necesita de un proyecto en el que su uso sea solamente un medio necesario; el proyecto no puede reducirse a destruir otro. Nuestro proyecto es recuperar lo que la vileza de los poderosos nos arrebata, y es nuestra
condición humana; nuestro proyecto es de rehumanización de todos los que no formamos parte de su selecto círculo, a
diferencia de Ellos que sólo buscan su propio beneficio.
Pensar y hacer política pasa por evaluar las condiciones de existencia, nuestras relaciones sociales e inter-personales, transformarlas en cada acto y hacerse cargo de
la vida pública. El Estado construye toda disidencia como el enemigo exterminable, todo en el mismo cajón de la criminalidad, y con ello impide que se desarrollen formas organizativas que resuelvan nuestras necesidades y satisfagan nuestras expectativas y legítimas demandas. Hay
un punto en el que no se puede hacer nada y las reglas del juego, a las que Ellos mismos no se atienen, nos son aplicadas con toda la violencia estatal-destructiva. La existencia de Ellos como minoría poderosa y dominante y sus formas de operar persistirán sólo en la medida en que Nosotros lo hagamos aceptable.
Fraternalmente:
RED POR LA TRANSFORMACIÓN GLOBAL
¡CONTRA LA INJUSTICIA Y LA IMPUNIDAD, NI PERDÓN NI OLVIDO¡
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Vinotinto Reply:
December 19th, 2010 at 8:14 am
Then ther is this by “La Familia” or not
http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2010/12/falso-el-comunicado-que-alarmo-la.html#more
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EnPokasPalabras Reply:
December 19th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
It was prooven to be a fake letter… Not from La Familia…
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El Ventilador Reply:
December 19th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
And here i leave you part 2 & 3, this shit is gonna burn a lot of people !!!
“Segunda de tres.
“Los poderosos llaman ley a su propia violencia y crimen a la de los oprimidos… por eso, los oprimidos debemos luchar por el establecimiento de una nueva ley frente a los crímenes de los poderosos, por todos los medios, incluida la violencia…
“En México coexisten dos países distintos. Uno es habitado por menos del 10% de la población; son Ellos quienes participan en la política y aplauden los discursos del gobierno de progreso y bienestar porque los viven; es la empresa dirigida y sostenida por quienes poseen y gozan de la mayor parte de la riqueza del país. En contraste el otro México es habitado por más del 90% de la población; y aunque somos la gran mayoría no tenemos ningún peso en las decisiones políticas y económicas.
“¿Es posible conocer a los individuos que decidieron el destino de un país entero? El proyecto neoliberal en México se concretó gracias a la actuación de diversos personajes en acuerdo y complicidad. En la figura de Carlos Salinas de Gortari se identifica más claramente el inicio de esta etapa destructiva, cruzando varios intereses y procesos; es un actor principal y es miembro de los círculos más restringidos del control de poder de ese entramado mafioso. Salinas impuso transformaciones (diseñadas desde la cúspide del poder capitalista) en sintonía con Estados Unidos, que no ha abandonado su histórica política intervencionista, apoyado por la elite empresarial y política mexicana de su partido (PRI) y algunos importantes aliados políticos; ha permanecido tras bambalinas desde que dejó la presidencia. De sus más preciados aliados podemos señalar como principal cómplice a un miembro destacado del partido de la oposición leal (PAN), Diego Fernández de Cevallos Ramos, un cacique panista inmensamente rico gracias a su triple carácter de funcionario del estado, empresario y abogado de demandas en contra del erario público.
“El Jefe Diego es otro nudo por donde atraviesan múltiples historias turbias. Ahora conocemos de cierto los modos de los trabajos y oficios con los que se maneja, las personas con las que trata y algunas de las que han sido sus más logradas empresas. Con nada que ocultar la mafia ha sido enumerada en las cartas elaboradas y dirigidas por el propio Diego a sus “benefactores”, reclamándoles apoyo económico en correspondencia a su lealtad y a sus servicios: Carlos Salinas de Gortari, Carlos Slim, Roberto Hernández, Alfredo Harp, Alberto Bailleres, Claudio X González, Lorenzo Servitje, Lorenzo Zambrano, Emilio Azcárraga Jean, Ricardo Salinas Pliego, Bernardo Quintana, Ignacio Loyola, Manlio Fabio Beltrones, Emilio Gamboa Patrón, Juan Sandoval Íñiguez, Onésimo Cepeda, Norberto Rivera Carrera, Roberto Madrazo, Jorge Hank Ronh, Santiago Creel, Enrique Peña Nieto, Carlos Romero Dechamps, Elba Esther Gordillo, entre otros. Se establecen diversas relaciones entre empresarios, políticos, la Iglesia, el narcotráfico, las redes de crimen organizado, el ejército, los grupos paramilitares, las televisoras, etc. Estas relaciones están regidas por entendidos más allá de la legalidad, por dentro y fuera de toda apariencia de normatividad; son feudos de una maraña de poderes en pugna y con el control del país.
“Diego Fernández de Cevallos acumula una larga pero poco honrosa carrera de impunidad y enriquecimiento. Por ejemplo, como amigo y abogado del millonario Alberto Bailleres (Presidente de Grupo Bal y dueño de El Palacio de Hierro y Seguros GNP), defendió a la empresa MetMex Peñoles contra las madres de más de 11,000 niños envenenados por la contaminación ocasionada por la fundidora en Torreón Coahuila. Ni las movilizaciones ni demandas penales de los afectados tuvieron éxito, pues la poderosa empresa estaba jurídicamente blindada contra las demandas populares gracias a las artes litigantes de su abogado a quien la justicia es lo que menos importa.
“Uno de los principales logros de la historia de México, fue haber logrado la separación de la Iglesia católica y el Estado. Debe añadirse a los libros de texto que esa lucha culminó con una amable reconciliación cuyo mediador fue el mismo Diego Fernández de Cevallos en complicidad con los más altos mandos de la Iglesia y Carlos Salinas de Gortari. Ellos modificaron en 1992 los artículos constitucionales 3, 5, 24, 27 y 130 y en julio del mismo año se promulgó la Ley de Asociaciones Religiosas y de Culto Público, así como el restablecimiento de las relaciones diplomáticas entre el Estado mexicano y la Santa Sede, representando el inicio de una inédita etapa en la historia contemporánea de México, cuyas consecuencias políticas y sociales empiezan a perfilarse. Iglesia como aparato aliado de las elites y parte fundamental de éstas a través de la historia, además de fungir como vínculo con “los pobres”; es más bien un supra Estado, férreamente centralizado, feudal, totalitario y ultraconservador. A través del jefe Diego y Carlos Castillo Peraza del PAN, se selló un nuevo pacto entre la Iglesia y el Estado, dotándolas de permiso para acumular bienes materiales heredables, además de la facultad de intervenir en la educación. Para hacer oficial el reconocimiento, las Iglesias debieron solicitar su registro ante la Secretaría de Gobernación. No resulta sorpresivo que el primer registro, el oficio 001, sea de la Iglesia Apostólica Romana, cuya copia enmarcada con una agradecida dedicatoria (“Para Diego Fernández de Cevallos. Con gratitud y cariño. G. Prigione”) cuelga en el despacho de Diego Fernández de Cevallos. Esta ley sustituía a la de 1926, cuando Calles selló la separación Iglesia-Estado iniciada por Benito Juárez.
“Ahora sabemos que la revelada relación entre los gobiernos mexicanos y el narcotráfico ha sido una constante. Lo que en un inicio fue un jugoso negocio controlado con acuerdos y cuotas pactadas se ha convertido en un mercado en dispetunia donde el gobierno no ha dejado de favorecer al ala que lo ha nutrido. Desde finales de los ochentas la diferencia entre el narco y el Estado comenzó a desdibujarse y no se sabía quién era quién. Raúl Salinas bajo el consentimiento de su hermano Carlos, Mario Arturo Acosta Chaparro, Francisco Quiroz Hermosillo, Nazar Haro, Juan Sandoval Íñiguez, Rubén Figueroa (padre e hijo), Diódoro Carrasco, Ulises Ruiz, Mario Marín, Jorge Tello Peón, Genaro García Luna, por mencionar a algunos de sus principales actores, han sido contacto y beneficiarios, y no podía faltar Diego Fernández de Cevallos. Su relación con la muerte del Señor de los Cielos (desmentida por García Calderoni) y haber recibido algunos millones de dólares procedentes del narco, parecen asuntos menores en comparación con la estrecha relación del gobierno y el desarrollo y consolidación del narcotráfico en México. México vive el contexto más violento desde la Revolución mexicana, como consecuencia del proyecto Irán-contra, impulsado por el gobierno de los Estados Unidos desde la década de los ochenta, por medio del cual permitió el tráfico de drogas de Latinoamérica a la Unión Americana, pactando con personajes de la talla de Pablo Escobar, Caro Quintero y el propio Señor de los Cielos, a cambio de recursos para combatir los movimientos insurgentes en Centroamérica. El gobierno de Estados Unidos fomentó la actividad del narco, sin importar las implicaciones que esta actividad tenía en los lugares donde se promovía (sobre todo Colombia y México) a cambio de exterminar a la disidencia política; la herencia que nos queda del Irán-contra es el inmenso poder económico y de combate que acumularon los carteles del narcotráfico en nuestros países. México fue cómplice de dicho plan, y ahora todos Nosotros pagamos las consecuencias del crecimiento del narcotráfico a niveles que ni el Estado puede controlar, además de la falsa guerra emprendida, pues es absurdo luchar contra quien uno mismo ha creado.
“A través de esta compleja y poderosa mafia, Diego Fernández de Cevallos fue pieza central para concretar el cambio de México a un Estado mínimo (sin responsabilidades sociales y de economía abierta, privatización y apertura comercial a capitales trasnacionales), además de diversos cambios de legislación que implicaron quiebres históricos para México. Desde la legitimación del fraude realizado contra Cuauhtémoc Cárdenas, la venta de las empresas paraestatales, la privatización de la banca mexicana, la firma del Tratado de Libre Comercio con América del Norte, hasta el reconocimiento jurídico de la Iglesia católica (dando vuelta atrás a más de 100 años de lucha por la separación de la Iglesia y el Estado) y la reforma al artículo 27 de la Constitución (considerado como el máximo triunfo de la Revolución de 1910), aniquilando no una forma de producción económica (los ejidos) sino la base de la identidad de muchas culturas; conocemos a los responsables directos de la actual realidad mexicana.
“Estas personas, fieles a una lógica que niega de facto el derecho a la vida digna de la mayor parte de la población mexicana, han prostituido los bienes y recursos de la nación, se han servido de ella, la han disfrazado, mutilado y traicionaron su historia… a cambio, se hincharon de poder político y económico. Es alta traición llevar adelante todas estas operaciones e igualmente grave legalizar su operación garantizando su impunidad al armarse una propia justicia; ni siquiera en su lógica son inocentes. Han tenido la osadía de abanderar y operar un proyecto anti-patriótico que renuncia a honrar la memoria histórica y que confina a la gente a la miseria como forma general de la existencia.
“El país se desmorona ante sus ojos atónitos que no dan crédito a lo que ven; se deshace por causa suya sin que discursos y fanfarrias mediáticas puedan convencernos de que vamos con rumbo cierto a la solución de los múltiples problemas que históricamente persisten en el país; la nación se desangra a borbollones y no desean admitir que ellos y solamente Ellos, han saciado su hambre de riqueza desmedida y poder político inconmensurable a costa de una patria exangüe y anémica.
“Más de 30,000 muertos sin contar a aquellos que deambulan en el anonimato; más de 200, 000 encarcelados por haber encontrado como opción de vida la delincuencia; casi 8 millones de jóvenes desocupados que bien podrían alimentar los grupos delincuenciales, de esquiroles o la drogodependencia. La pérdida progresiva de visión de futuro y de perspectiva para los jóvenes que miran como opción de vida el enriquecimiento rápido a través de su inserción dentro del mágico mundo de la “cultura de las televisoras” o dentro de las huestes del narcotráfico. La extinción de fuerzas de trabajo para defender los intereses de Ellos, a través de la privatización de empresas y recursos del país; la pauperización de condiciones de trabajo y de salarios para mantener fuentes de empleo. La militarización del país, la criminalización de la disidencia política, la paramilitarización de las policías, la extinción de los derechos humanos bajo argucias legales y extralegales, entre éstas la impunidad de los militares bajo el concepto de “fuero militar”, el incumplimiento de las garantías individuales “plasmadas en la Constitución” para dar paso a la inconstitucional figura del “arraigo”.
“Este es un fragmento del México que han dejado como saldo para nosotros una larga dictadura, la seudo-transición y las complicidades partidistas. Si recortamos nuestra descripción a los últimos 25 años… ¡qué curioso! encontramos a los mismos delincuentes que habíamos denunciado antes y entre ellos a Diego Fernández de Cevallos.
“Estos delincuentes de cuello blanco han saqueado a la Patria, han organizado sus grupos y acciones para poder gozar del poder y enriquecerse de manera prepotente bajo el manto de su protección. Han aprovechado sus estancias en los órganos estatales y se han servido de ello para obtener ilegal e ilegítimamente beneficios económicos, políticos e ideológicos para ser Ellos y solamente Ellos los únicos y eternos beneficiarios.
“Aseguran el nombramiento de Secretarios de Estado, de Seguridad Pública, Procuradores Generales de la República, Gobernadores y Presidentes municipales de algunas entidades, Senadores, Dipetuniados, Asambleístas y diversos cargos de “elección popular” para posicionarse política y económicamente. Negocian y pactan reconocimientos y prebendas para asegurar su lugar en el poder político y económico. Defienden fraudes políticos, económicos y jurídicos y los apoyan económica, ideológica y políticamente; sin menospreciar las jurídicas y judiciales. Hasta parece un retrato hablado. La impunidad les cubre a lo largo de su vida como aureola de santidad. Niegan para sí mismos que el pueblo, las organizaciones de que disponen y sus redes de acción no los alcanzarán con su brazo de justicia y legitimidad; sin embargo esto no es así.
“Ellos se manejan de acuerdo a principios y valores que en la práctica niegan la posibilidad de vida plena para Nosotros. Han gozado de la posibilidad de ejercer la violencia de manera legal e ilegal, visible e invisible no sólo contra las expresiones armadas organizadas sino en escarmientos contra cualquier demostración de hartazgo e insubordinación social. Estos principios y valores son reproducidos todos los días por individuos con poder local (en las colonias, en los municipios, en pueblos y ranchos) que de manera miserable maltratan y menosprecian a la gente aprovechando la constante de la pobreza. La transformación de todo esto pasa por erradicar estas conductas que encuentran en el provecho del ejercicio impune del poder económico, político, religioso, etc. su hábitat para garantizar sus privilegios a costa de los demás.
No se les están impetuniando responsabilidades abstractas sino crímenes concretos, hay actos solapados y manejos que aun dentro de su propio estado de derecho son injustificables; el crimen es su práctica y el cinismo su estampa. Nosotros, construyendo poder popular, nuevas formas de justicia y sanciones podremos mostrar que nadie, ni siquiera Ellos permanecerán impunes.
“Fraternalmente:
RED POR LA TRANSFORMACIÓN GLOBAL
¡CONTRA LA INJUSTICIA Y LA IMPUNIDAD, NI PERDON NI OLVIDO!
Invierno de 2010”.
Tercera de tres.
“La soberanía nacional reside esencial y originariamente en el pueblo. Todo poder público dimana del pueblo y se instituye para beneficio de éste. El pueblo tiene en todo tiempo el inalienable derecho de alterar o modificar la forma de su gobierno.
Artículo 39 constitucional
A estas horas
ay, amigos míos, artesanos,
pintores, astrónomos, marineros,
estamos despiertos. Es trabajo
nuestro el de arreglar algunas cosas.
“Diego Fernández de Cevallos parecía intocable hasta aquella noche en que su pasado oscuro lo alcanzó. Y, muy a su pesar, tuvo que responder de algunos de sus actos y verse en el espejo de nuestra mirada… espejo que al hacerlo prisionero reflejó su hechura de corrupto, prepotente y voraz expropiador, demostrando un hecho fundamental: siempre que como pueblo nos atrevamos a luchar contra la injusticia, no habrá felonía que quede impune.
“Diego Fernández de Cevallos Ramos (DFCR) es uno de los políticos que mayor responsabilidad tienen en el sostenido proceso de hecatombe económica, política y social que la elite dominante ha impuesto y desplegado en nuestro país de 1982 a la fecha, por medio de un entramado mafioso que opera dentro y fuera de las instituciones estatales; este proceso depredador vino a profundizar, bajo la criminal bandera neoliberal, las de por sí deterioradas condiciones de vida de los hombres y mujeres que viven en México, generando la mayor contrarreforma y el mayor retroceso histórico en nuestro país en lo que a bienestar social se refiere.
“DFCR es uno de los políticos que más se ha caracterizado por el abuso del poder, el tráfico de influencias y el enriquecimiento a costa del erario y de los bienes de la nación, legislando en pro de los grandes monopolios (financieros, de comunicaciones, alimentos, construcción, transportes, etc.) asesorando a las mafias del poder y litigando a favor de los grandes capos del narcotráfico. Es uno de los principales cómplices y operadores del fraudulento proceso electoral que se ha perpetrado sistemáticamente en nuestro país, desde el ocultamiento del fraude que impuso en 1988 a Carlos Salinas de Gortari en la presidencia mediante la quema de boletas electorales hasta la organización del fraude que en 2006 impuso a Felipe Calderón Hinojosa. Es uno de los principales encubridores de los responsables de la guerra sucia y contrainsurgente desplegada por el régimen priista y ahora por el PAN contra los movimientos sociales, armados o no, convirtiéndose en uno más de los cómplices de la existencia de incontables perseguidos, torturados, asesinados, presos y desaparecidos por motivos políticos. Es un responsable directo de la inserción subordinada de México al bloque de países capitaneados en nuestro continente por el imperialismo estadounidense y, en consecuencia, del desmantelamiento industrial, la ruina del campo, la masiva migración, de la pauperización de la vida en general y el saqueo de nuestros recursos.
“En breve, Diego Fernández de Cevallos Ramos es un operador de la oligarquía neoliberal y de la ultraderecha fundamentalista, un traficante de influencias, un mercenario de los juzgados, un legislador a sueldo, un rentista de la crisis y un defensor de los grandes capos de la droga. Por ello su aprehensión fue una actividad pensada y realizada como un acto de desagravio.
“Tomarlo prisionero, exhibirlo y obligarlo a devolver una milésima de lo robado constituyó además un golpe político a la plutocracia y a sus instituciones; una demostración de la voluntad de lucha y de la capacidad operativa de los “descalzonados”, como él nos denomina; una demostración de que nadie, por poderoso que sea, puede ser intocable; una demostración de que con unidad de acción se puede doblegar la voluntad del enemigo y combatir la impunidad.
“Pocas veces se había percibido el miedo, la confusión y el enojo que una imagen puede generar en la poderosa elite gobernante, como lo hizo la primera foto del jefe Diego cautivo que empezó a circular en internet, y que los medios de comunicación se vieron obligados a difundir. En ella se le pudo observar no con la prepotencia ni el cinismo de los que ha hecho gala el trasnochado encomendero a lo largo de su vida personal y política, sino en la total indefensión, casi parecida a la que vivimos y a la que hemos sido sometidos la mayoría de mexicanos, sólo que con una notable diferencia: A Diego le fue respetada su integridad física sin el desprecio que por la vida humana demuestra el poder con Nosotros.
“Con base en los resultados de este acto, consideramos necesario compartir la convicción de que si quienes somos pueblo logramos organizarnos en una sola voluntad política nacional, en una colosal fuerza social organizada, podremos hacer frente común a la injusticia y a la impunidad, a fin de derrotar a nuestros opresores y acordar la organización de una sociedad verdaderamente humanizada. Y pese a tener innumerables impetuniaciones en su contra y de que miles de ciudadanos exigen su legítima ejecución, conscientes estamos de que la verdadera solución a la crisis que vive el país no está en liquidarlo, sino en la capacidad del pueblo para organizarse y retomar las riendas de su propio destino, recurriendo a todos los medios a su alcance.
“Como parte del pueblo organizado decidimos realizar una tarea, la responsabilidad es nuestra. Creemos firmemente que reapropiarse del uso constructivo de la violencia es legítimo y hemos actuado en consecuencia.
“Esta tarea es parte de un proyecto más grande e importante: participar en la construcción del poder popular para transformar este país transnacionalizado en una verdadera patria digna, libre y nuestra. ¿O es mucho soñar con que las riquezas de México sean para la mayoría de los mexicanos? ¿Es ambicioso soñar con un país productivo que pueda dar trabajo y remuneración digna a sus hijos? ¿Es un sueño guajiro pensar que somos los 90 millones de pobres quienes debemos tener la posibilidad real de tomar las decisiones importantes en el modelo económico, político y cultural que deseamos? ¿Es mucho pedir un México para todos los mexicanos?
“Fraternalmente:
RED POR LA TRANSFORMACIÓN GLOBAL
¡CONTRA LA INJUSTICIA Y LA IMPUNIDAD, NI PERDON NI OLVIDO!
Invierno de 2010”.
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Vinotinto Reply:
December 19th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
When a government’s weakness is sensed, those who wish to seize power write manifestos.
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asi es Reply:
December 19th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Comentario derechista.
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How About Just a Link Reply:
December 21st, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Why Not Just post the link instead of 5000 words no one will read anyway?
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http://asu.news21.com/2010/migrant-women-raped/
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- Michel
Definitivamente ay tregua entre El Cartel de Sinaloa y los Beltran-Leyva en Nogales… Los carriles del tren que dividen desde el centro marca la “raya divisora” entre ambas organizaciones… Se me hacia dificil creerlo hasta que me lo afirmo un buen amigo integrado ya por muchisimos años con el Cartel de Sinaloa… Recientemente lo apuntaron a Nogales desde Mochis para acertar que la tregua se respetara y se cumpliera de parte del CDS… Aunque me dijo que aun todavia levantan (no me dijo quien y ni le pregunte) a raza que se sigue pasando de la raya y no respetando la tregua y/o division… AFIRMATIVO…
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talegon Reply:
December 20th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
se supone ke esa tregua termina en diciembre y a principios de enero empieza todo la matazon otra vez
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EnPokasPalabras Reply:
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:02 am
Pueda que si viejo… la verdad no quise preguntarle mucho… pero no cabe duda que esta pacifico ahorita…
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Segun este arsenal decomisado en Sonora es del Macho Prieto, que segun mato a un tal pablito y esto era para combatir a su gente.
http://uniradioinforma.com/noticias/articulo34375.html
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free at last, Free At Last, thank G…..
http://tinyurl.com/285te49
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ilegal Reply:
December 21st, 2010 at 9:56 am
pinchi santo clos, lol!!
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vinotinto Reply:
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:52 am
Manipulator to the end,
probably was freed days earlier but had to take the time to:
get his hair cut neatly or doesn’t his hair grow in captivity,
give his long beard a nice round shape or does his beard grow symmetrically in captivity,
took time to memorize Cervantes,
was kept uninformed about world events yet knew about Marisela Escobedo Ortiz,
contradictions at every turn, the circus of media manipulation.
The question is why?
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asi es Reply:
December 22nd, 2010 at 11:33 am
La cuestion; why, aplica para muchisimas mas cosas que lo que tu la planteas.
Hay muchas cosas en Mexico, situaciones y sucesos dificiles de comprender, que lo unico que queda por reaccion es poner cara de… Why?? lol!…
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vinotinto Reply:
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:18 pm
pos si
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Lanzacohetes de “El Macho Prieto” Pugna en el Cártel de Sinaloa
Pablo Osorio Payán “El Pablito”, traficante y homicida al servicio del cártel de Sinaloa, fue asesinado por órdenes de Gonzalo Inzunza Inzunza “El Macho Prieto” en Puerto Peñasco, Sonora. Este delincuente encabezaba al grupo criminal que controlaba el trasiego y la venta de droga al menudeo en Sonoyta. Y de acuerdo a los expedientes federales, Osorio se había desmarcado de Inzunza.
Estaba delinquiendo como independiente y para incrementar su capital ilícito robando cargamentos de enervantes destinados a otros criminales en la zona, lo que había generado una serie de homicidios y enfrentamientos.
El cuerpo de “El Pablito” junto a los de Víctor Alberto Arellanes Valenzuela, Omar Páez Álvarez, Aristeo Ochoa Páez y Wilfredo Páez Haros, fueron localizados el 11 de diciembre, en el kilómetro 37, de la carretera federal número 8, en el tramo Sonoyta–Puerto Peñasco.
Todos los cadáveres tenían un tiro en la cabeza.
Aunque las autoridades no han revelado quién suplió al sicario, el duelo interno continúa en el municipio sonorense, la prueba más reciente fue expuesta el 14 de diciembre, tras el decomiso de un cargamento de armas ejecutado por elementos de la 2ª. Zona Militar en las inmediaciones del poblado “El Oasis”.
El operativo se activó después que tres hombres a bordo de una camioneta Ford Expedition avistaron un puesto de revisión establecido por los militares e intentaron huir de manera repentina en dirección contraria.
Al detenerlos y realizar una revisión precautoria, en el interior del vehículo localizaron un arsenal. 15 gramos de cocaína; 36 armas largas; 13 armas cortas; un lanzacohetes, con un cohete en su interior y otros cuatro resguardados; cuatro aditamentos lanzagranadas; 15 granadas 40 milímetros; 12 granadas de mano; 162 cargadores; 12 cargadores de disco; 34 cargadores para pistola; 5mil 882 cartuchos de diferentes calibres; 22 chalecos color negro; siete fundas para pistola; 17 fornituras; 380 dólares y 440 pesos.
Los delincuentes detenidos fueron: Martín Flores Pacheco, Sergio Antonio Amador Pérez y José Ramón Angulo Loaiza. Flores es desertor del ejército y al ser aprehendido ya había cargado un lanzagranadas para atacar a los soldados; Amador se negó a declarar.
Pero Ángulo admitió ser cómplice en cinco asesinatos y cuatro secuestros perpetrados recientemente en la zona. También aseguró que el arsenal había llegado recientemente por vía aérea y que era de “El Macho Prieto” para distribuirse entre los sicarios a su servicio, porque se estaban preparando para un enfrentamiento con los matones de “El Pablito”, recientemente asesinado.
También en Sonoyta, las fuerzas armadas buscan a Raúl Saborí Cisneros, miembro del cártel de Sinaloa, señalado como el presunto responsable del secuestro de Enrique Montes Castañeda, quien fuera Secretario del Ayuntamiento de ese municipio y presidente del PAN, actualmente funge como director del Cobach.
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TWO self inflicted gunshot wounds to the head? How bad of a shot was this guy?
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2padre Reply:
December 21st, 2010 at 9:34 am
I know of two guys that shot themselves. When you mix alcohol and fully automatic weponds you get a deadly mixture.
First guy had an AK47 he was holding it with one hand and poked the floor with the barrell causing a burst to go off. He took 4 hollow point rounds to the right leg. He is lucky he can still walk.
Round 1 = entered high in the ankle and came out of his heal
Round 2 = got him on the calf
Rounds 3 & 4 = hit him high and low on the thigh.
Second guy
Had a fully auto berretta 9mm hand gun.
He dropped it and it let off all 15 rounds. He wasnt as lucky as the first guy.
Round 1 = hit him on the thight
Round 2 = hit him in the gut
Round 3 hit him in the chest center mass
Round 4 = got him in the head just under the right eye
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praxadis Reply:
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:36 am
Fully auto berretta 9mm hand gun! That’s crazy
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Glyph Reply:
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:28 pm
I seem to remember a Beretta (sb-f?) that fired a 3 round burst.
@2padre: your point is well taken, but this guy supposedly shot himself IN THE HEAD two times. I’m not saying it can’t happen, I just think it’s suspicious to rule it a suicide.
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Tu Padre Reply:
December 24th, 2010 at 9:26 am
the one I am talking about was an aftermarket conversion.
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JrMaFia Reply:
December 24th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Glock full auto is sick shit…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8xCB2r6V9c
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2padre Reply:
December 24th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
The first time you fire full auto it is like taking viagra you need to call a doctor if the wood doesn’t go away after 4 hours. But after you see the first accident with one you realize how quickly things can go wrong with someone who is not experienced.
Here is one example of how things can easily go wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11fcg543Jow&feature=related
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hablando del Quitapuercos… http://lapolaka.com/2010/12/21/el-chapolin-colorado-ofrece-salvar-a-juarez/
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What is this i am reading about the women who got killed in chihuaha for seeking her daughters killer got killed by Los Zetas. I read they are taking responsibility for this hit and have threatened the woman on numerous occasions
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Interesting thing happened this weekend to me, I have always wondered when customs would be more strict on the border and when I was coming back monday morning from a night of partying, customs agents were standing almost 10th from the border line asking for visas or us passports; when I presented my US passport I was directed to another line where there was no waiting time at all and all the others were at least in a hr wait. Now is this being done in other border crossings? Are customs fed up with the violence being taken on they’re fellow agents? And if this is being done in other statEs where is the order coming from? There was also a story how even when walking over to the states from Juarez had one customs agent working the line and customs responded with that thay work with what they have right now those lines were like 1 1/2 hr to get over but US citizens don’t wait in that line either
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Vincent Hanna Reply:
December 22nd, 2010 at 11:30 am
You should go to San Ysidro if you want to wait in a line, then get sent to secondary for having a US passport.
also would like to add this..
To All My Democrat Friends:
Please accept with no obligation, implied or explicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible,
low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2011, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere. Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wishee.
To My Republican Friends:
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
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Why on Earth are you visiting Tijuana…I’m assuming for the hookers, but seriously, why the hell are you going down there!?!
Dude, I’ve been a fan of Revolution Ave. for the past 10+ years, but there is no f’ing way you’ll see my ass back there anytime soon!!!
I’m not sure if you read Spanish, but take a gander at ZETA Edition 1901:
http://zetatijuana.com/html/Edicion1901/ZETAPaginaPrincipal.html
It talks about Sinaloa tightening their grip on the TJ border…it also mentions what one clown was planning on doing with grenades found in his possession…he states they were to blow up nightclubs in Zona Norte (Red Light District) were low-level dealers sell their drugs!
After I read this, I hung it up…possibly for good. I don’t fear being specifically targeted, but I sure as hell wouldn’t be fond of having a grenade roll up on my ankle while I’m having a beer and have a fat-tittied whore on my lap! Ka-fooking-boom!!!
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http://www.tiempoahora.net/nota/14161 … they are saying that z40 was captured last week.. i couldnt find anymore news on it.. who knows..
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Como decia mi nana ,usteded que hablan christiano.
Chequen este buey que tiene su pagina en youtube. No nomas habla del narco muchos temas de la patria. Se le abia callido la pagina pero parece que ya la esta levantando otra vez.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh7_l6AByS8
Noticias Digital
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Feliz Navidad a todos.
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The Message:
“To Chapo and his boys Flaco and Marrufo: you are not fooling anyone, we know you pulled that bullshit with the lady in Chih, and you burned down a wood supply store to frame us and make us look bad. Don’t act like bitches, why don’t you come after us and leave the innocent women and children out of this. ATTE:_____________”.
This was posted in Juarez in 2 locations. I think someone needs to tell El Chapo that Juarez and the state of Chih isn’t his and will never be. I’m getting a feeling the La Linea’s isn’t playing, it is getting old.
This was in reference to the murder of Marisela Escobedo, the activist whose daughter was murdered first.
The Sinaloa Cartel had offerred to assist the Feds with finding the killer, lol. “isn’t that kind of like an addict that steals your money, comes back and denies it, and offers to help you look for it.”
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JrMaFia Reply:
December 26th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
I tend to think this is La Linea style of killing an activist. These guys extort teachers and burn down schools. Also have los aztecas a bunch of crackheads that kill innocent teenagers and say they are rival gang members.
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T_R_C Reply:
December 27th, 2010 at 12:05 am
They both do, for instance with the Sinaloa Cartel, they slaughtered innocent people in the Juarez Valley. And ran them all out of the towns. What it really boils down to is the Feds (with Sinaloa) against state and local police (with Juarez Cartel). My main point is that a lot of the since-less slaughter is done to slander the other and the end result is that in the 2012 elections, the Sinaloa will not have the backing of the Army, media, and Feds and shortly after they will be the smaller cartel that gets pushed around.
I truly believe that it does not matter how many soldiers and Scisarios come, Juarez will alway recruit more street soldiers and never give in. Juarez will not have peace until Chapo is out of the picture and Vicente and Mayo make a truce.
Taking over Juarez would kind of be like when the Los Angeles Police Department tried to stop the Watts Riots. No matter what they did, the riot continued and ran it’s course. There is 2 million to recruit from in Juarez. It is their turf and home field advantage is a good thing.
It is only logical that a gas bomb here, kill a consulate rep there, an activist here, a federal cop or doctor there might be a form of warfare for Sinaloa.
But if the Juarez Cartel was so horrible, how come until 4 years ago, anyone could go to Juarez and there was rarely any trouble. It was a great place to party and college students flocked there. But when Chapo marched in, it knocked everything off track and anything goes. He is a too greedy and that will be what gets him.
It wasn’t great but it wasn’t “pure hell” for all that live there Jr. I have many good friends that live there that I haven’t seen in 3 years and I cannot make contact with them. I know some are dead. If Sinaloa had not come, everything would have stayed as it was.
But as long as the Feds back the other side, the media will tell the story of how bad the horrid Juarez Cartel is and how it would be so good if “El Chapo” would step in and end this bad cartel. He can’t and it wouldn’t.
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There’s a rumor coming out of Culiacan that Chapo was captured somewhere in Sinaloa….has anyone heard anything? I heard this from a singer that said he’s already writing the corrido about the capture.
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Pepito Reply:
December 28th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
me mensajearon a mi cell la portada de un tabloid donde dice que capturaron al chapo, pero no eh leido nada mas
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jajaja es el dia de los santos inocentes.. today is april fools day in mexico..dec 28..
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Caen mas de la Gente Nueva en Durango.
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/733686.html
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