Dedos Muertos?

Jan 26th, 2011 | By Michel Marizco | Category: General News, Organized Crime
Email  Facebook  Post to Twitter Twitter Post to Delicious Post to Delicious Post to StumbleUpon Stumble This Post Post to Yahoo Buzz Buzz This Post Post to Digg Digg This Post


This State Department cable out of Wikileaks caught my eye. 51 FBI informants and 10 DEA "liaison officers" were murdered in Mexico between 2007-09.

When we talk about American law enforcement in Mexico, we generally view the Americans as not being part of the game; for the most part, this has held true since the wars began.

But I wonder about these 61 informants and liaisons. Were the 51 also Mexican informants and therefore murdered for that connection or were they killed because of their ties to the Americans? Same for the 10 liaisons. Were they killed because they were Mexican intelligence officers or because they were working with the Americans?

The first would be consistent with the idea that the country's narcos are going after law enforcement; 2007 to 2009 are the prime years when Arturo Beltrán Leyva was most active. But, if they targeted these people for their connections to the Americans, then that suggests something else – the Americans probably had a difficult time convincing others to work for them as a result. I wonder, a year later, how they've fared since.

I tripped over that Wikileaks cable while exploring the newest ones, the memos referencing the FBI interrogating detainees in Mexico. That one seemingly caught everybody's eye in Mexico; the press is filled with the story. The short version is this: CISEN, the Mexican CIA, allowed FBI agents to interrogate foreign nationals captured in Mexico; the scope of their investigation being counter-terrorism.

Mexico's Secretary of Immigration Salvador Beltrán, says that's not true. Myself, I believe it is; and frankly, I believe it's been the case for years. As far back as the 1980s, DEA agents were interrogating people in Mexico, including Mexicans, when they were looking for murdered DEA agent Enrique Camarena's body. Years later, American agents were in the room with Joaquín El Chapo Guzmán, when he was first arrested. Same goes for Osiel Cardenas. Americans have been involved in Mexico's law enforcement infrastructure for at least, decades. Post-Sept. 11, it shouldn't be a surprise that they're still doing so.

Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

Leave a comment »

  1. What does the last section of that story say?

    That Inge gave Chairs power, and Chairs went off the reservation, and complicated things when Sinaloa was offering peace after Teo?

  2. pa crece en el narco esta bien amár, por eso matan tanta gente, la gente pensar que esta facil, pidin fiado unos 10 kilitos, no pueden pagar los matan, o salen truchas y ser los roban. ya la mayoria ya no son negociantes que nomas cruzan y trabajan, puro lacras robando y peliando plazas extorniando gente. esos ni saben que es ser narco, nomas les kedar el dicho. pocos narcos hay que cruzan merca y asen billetes a lo grande. pero si agarras buena linea, y metes una tonelada por semana imaginate son 2 milliones de dolares 😛 pocos grandes kedan.

  3. It says chairs went overboard and tried to take over AFO by himself

    mario Reply:

    No it doesn’t, it doesnt say he ever tried to take over AFO, he had personal beef with the Sinaloans, caf n sinaloa were at peace until sillas people kidnapped mayos aunt n niece, it had nothing to do with caf, it was personal , so thats when it says supposedly ingeniero cut him off to maintain the peace treaty they had with sinaloa.

  4. And, Engineer gave him up, to keep things running smooth with Sinaloa? He is on his own now? Those straight translations always confuse me.

  5. Give it some time, Sonora is heating up

  6. Federal officials in El Paso said on Thursday they will seek the extradition of a top Sinaloa drug cartel leader arrested last weekend in central Mexico with the help U.S. Marshals.

    Adán Salazar Zamorano, 67, is wanted in El Paso on charges of conspiracy to traffic cocaine. The quantity is not known yet.

    Mexico’s Attorney General announced his arrest in Querétaro earlier this week.

    A federal judge in Mexico on Tuesday ordered to detain Salazar for 40 days at the organized-crime division of the attorney general’s office until prosecutors gathered more evidence to charge him.

    The attorney general said Salazar led “Los Salazar,” a powerful cell that directly reports to Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán, the alleged leader of the violent Sinaloa drug cartel, which is entangled in a war with the Juárez cartel over lucrative corridors into the U.S in the El Paso area.

    Salazar is suspected of smuggling cocaine into the United States through northwestern Mexico for Guzmán, who is one of the most elusive drug leaders in Mexico, officials said. Salazar’s territory covers the border state of Sonora, across Arizona, to the states of Chihuahua and Durango.

    Although the U.S. government wants to extradite Salazar, it is not clear whether Mexico will grant it or choose to prosecute him.

    But both governments worked together to catch Salazar.

    Robert Almonte, the U.S. Marshal of the Western District of Texas, said marshals worked with Mexican authorities to locate Salazar and arrest him. “The warrant is actually in our possession,” Almonte said.

    Almonte said Salazar is a high-level member of the Sinaloa cartel with “upper-command responsibilities.” The Mexican government does not have Salazar as a wanted criminal.

    Salazar is in the fugitives list of the Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso division along with his son, Jesús Alfredo Salazar Ramírez, 37. DEA spokeswoman Diana Apodaca said her agency issued the arrest warrant for Salazar Zamorano, who was indicted in the Western District of Texas. His indictment remains sealed.

    The DEA said Salazar Zamorano is of Chinipas, a town in the southwestern tip of Chihuahua state.

    Salazar Zamorano, also known as “Don Adán,” was based in the state of Chihuahua and traveled in a private jet throughout Mexico. At least two Sinaloa cartel associates have been captured in the past few months.

    High-ranking Sinaloa cartel leader Ignacio Coronel was killed by the Mexican Army on July 29, 2010, in Zapopan, Jalisco, during a shootout. Meanwhile, Guzmán and his closest ally Ismael “El Mayo” Zambada in the Sinaloa drug cartel, remain at large.

    Jerry Reply:

    67 years old! Why do we even give a crap about this geezer? Let the Mexican prison system pay for his prostate cancer surgery

  7. What constitutes the label “Cartel”
    Does it seem a group now is undeservingly called a cartel?
    So in the narco-world discussed in these blogs, I propose a challenge. List the attributes that MUST be present for defining a “Cartel”

    chris Reply:

    Defintion of a cartel, is to make, control,maintain and set a market.

    vinotinto Reply:

    Yes well that is the definition but apparently not in this context. Seem like any group of thugs is being called a cartel

  8. valiendo madre agarraron al placas villagrana…..andan c.agando el palo en sonora

    asi es Reply:

    con quien estaba ese vato talegon?. fue en Santa Ana?.

  9. estaba con el chapo ese es el jefe del jabali….si fue en santa ana…valio madre aora si se les va poner kbron el asunto por akellos rumbos…ojala ke no agarren al rene

    asi es Reply:

    Y no dicen muchos que el chapo no le pega al chapo pues!.. cero y van dos importantes entonces!..

    talegon Reply:

    les estan dando machin a los del chapo pero el pedo eske es puro dedo y de gente cercana a esta gente…al placas tambien le pusieron el dedo

  10. perdon, se que no va con el tema, pero lo tienen que saber.
    magdalena plus santa anna, plus cucurpe, plus san ignacio= Beltran Leyva.s dinasty.
    son tierras controladas por esos dementes.
    el pasadero de droga lo hacen por un ejido que se llama La Cebolla.
    y por lo que escuche la jente esa no quiere a los del SARIC.
    alguien me puede informar sobre saric y cabesillas, gracias

    talegon Reply:

    el jabali y el placas controlaban el ejido de la cebolla….el jabali tiene un rancho ahi..santana y magdalena siempre la han controlado los villagrana ke siempre han trabajado pal chapo excepto el jabali kien andaba con los beltranes pero luego se cambio de bando… eske no kieran ala gente del saric si no ke hay un chingo en saric ke trabajan para el gilo kien esta con los beltranes leyva y es el ke anda cagando el palo por akellos rumbos

    juanito Reply:

    Como son mitoteros pa empezar los jabalines solo se dedican a tener tiraderos de drogas y asecuestrar gente, el gilo no asoma ni las narices a sasabe por que esta la gente de caborca, el que controla magdalena y santa ana es un tan chile de verde o cara de chile asi como el martin chango, y el gilo no tiene ni pa comer solo quedan como 15 pistoleros por que no tienen ni pa comer y el que los trae de la cola es el negro sabori nomas que les gusta inventar muchas babosadas, lo de los jabalines es pura fama nomas son unos lambehuevos de los salazares y de los sabori

    talegon Reply:

    no mames chile verde…..y el martin chango se anda muriendo de ambre carnal

    talegon Reply:

    nomas preguntale al bonchas amezquita como lo trae el martin chango pidiendo 20 dolares pala gasolina

    kiko Reply:

    pinchi bola de ruinos todos los de santa ana y magdalena, nomas por que andan de tirantes ya se creen capos la bola de ojetes, ven muchas peliculas jajajaja si se le pierde un perico a un tirante ya andan el fosforo y el placas queriendolo matar y esos son los ajustes de cuentas para ellos jajaja

    talegon Reply:

    jajajajaja eso si puro tirante jodido por akellos rumbos

  11. andale, buen punto. y teniendo practicamente el dominio no solo estatal pero nacional la gente del chapo no toma ese pueblito para su lista tan amplia de ciudades controladas x el… y como resultado ce vio la masacre de los carros con las X`s.. ahora entonces magdalena, santa ana, y cucurpe si estoy en lo correco dices que son tierras controladas x gente del chapo?.. .. otro punto que hay que tomar en cuenta: el GOBIERNO MEXICANO esta atacando/aprendiendo a criminales de un solo bando, y estos son los zetas y/o beltranes. y esto va de la mano con el apoyo de EUA que segun ellos los ZETAS ayudarian a al qaida o algo asi. y mi punto es este, si de terrorismo se habla, los los rivales se pintan solos: decapitados, descuartizados, quemados, DESAPAREIDOS(que nunca encuentran), balaceras de pelicula, y esto va parejo para los dos bandos, LOS DOS..ahora, tanto poder y control para chapo es mucho, por lo que es ayudado o aconsejado por otros medios. No hay torre que por mas alta que sea no caiga, y el chapo no es exepcion. ahora me pongo a pensar: que pasaria en MEXICO si hubiera protestas como las de EGIPTO en toda la nacion??? como responderia el GOBIERNO?.. como responderia el NARCOTRAFICO?… al paso que va es probable que solo el pueblo pueda detener esa gente, y de una manera u otra, JUNTANDOSE EN ARMAS el pueblo ya que las represalias no se haran esperar por el lado del gobierno y el narco..quedara en manos del chapo el narco en mexico, y hasta CUANDO?



    move Reply:

    Puro Sinaloa
    fook Sinaoa, puro Tamaulipas,
    fook you both Arriva Durango.

    Them is killing words

    asi es Reply:

    La pinche verguenza!… Pura gente pndeja que solo causa que los gringos nos “quieran” mas!!… Miren que sacar un cuete solo porque el otro dijo que su estado era mas cheengon!… Ponganse a trabajar huevones!!… Estan como los morritos de kinder alegando niñerias..

  13. Jajajajajaja

  14. Ahuevo se esta calentando Sonora, decomizo de los 600 kilos de coca hoy, las capturas de sicarios, ..
    oi la gente del r5 y el m100 se creen fuerzas especiales. jaja, payasos, este cargamento de armas y ropa era pa los refuerzos pero ni pedo no les llego a tiempo, los atoro el ejercito

  15. MEXICO CITY – Two U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents were shot Tuesday afternoon in the line of duty in Mexico, according to an ICE statement.

    The agents assigned to the ICE Attache office in Mexico City were attacked by unknown assailants while driving between Mexico City and the northern city of Monterrey.

    There were no details on their condition or the precise location of the shooting.

    The Mexican President’s Office and Mexican immigration officials said they had no information on the attack.

    San Luis Potosi state police had a report of shooting on a federal highway leading to Monterrey involving two people, one of whom was airlifted by helicopter to Mexico City, according to Public Safety spokesman Omar Nino.

    Jose Reply:

    The news reported that one of the agents has died and the other is in serious condition. Wonder what is going to happen between the US and MEX governments?

    asi es Reply:

    What were they doing in Mexico?.
    Why were they driving such long road instead of flying?.

Log in | 45 queries. 0.703 seconds.